EVE New Citizens Q&A

Get multiple accounts....

Okay... by that logic, why half-ass it with just 2 or 3 accounts. Go get a large bank loan and spend millions a month to buy a million accounts and take over all of Eve. I am sure it will be approved.

Some people do not want to waste more than $15 a month on internet spaceships.

The reverse of your logic is also true. There are people who are perfectly willing (and able) to spend money each month for 5, 10, or even more accounts. Is your claim, then, that it's unfair that they can do that while you cannot, or were you trying to make another point when you said:

Many things which GMs considered not allowed were changed to be allowed last october:
Customer Support lifting previous restrictions regarding war decs

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What has Neutral RR has to do with "fair" or "unfair" fights? There is no fair fight in EVE, only fights you win and fights you lose. And you lose, when you fight against a supperior force, a better skilled pilot, or a more epxerienced pilot, and in any of these cases, nothing is FAIR for the lossing person.

But when talking about Neutral RR, no skills, no tactics, no experience takes part in the fight. It's a stupid mechanism that is simply unbeatalbe, especially in small scale, or solo pvp fights. It's always a lose-lose situation. It's not even unpredictable anymore, it's so widely spread that is so much predictable, so most fights won't even start anymore. Neutral RR makes it pointless.

For me, using a Neutral RR alt, is no option. I don't want to be part of this exploit. I am simply playing less and less eatch day, until the day all my assets are gone. And neutral RR is the main reason i got so bored of this game.

Not exactly.. under current rules you have to be *very* careful even after the neutral RR gets flagged. Especially if people join fleet late.

New system will fix that though. flag will be universal for corp, so you don't even need to be in fleet anymore to whammo them.

This is incorrect. Fleets have not had any effect on aggression mechanics for well over a year now and even back then it didn't have the effect you describe.

Neutral RR is boring and lame and CCP has intentions to change something to make it riskier.

That said, it is considered valid gameplay, so yea, they can do it. You can do it too. And you don't need alts, if you have friends. Maybe you know a friendly corporation not in the war that could come and help you with reps? It can be good practice for aspiring logistics pilots.

And that said - there are no fair fights in EVE. There's always an edge to a fight, and if you don't have it, they do. People who go on and on about how fights should be "fair" usually do so in order to lure you in into one that is in their advantage. For example, they might know for a certain fact they are vastly more experienced than you, and try to talk you into not countering that by bringing more people. The equal numbers do not make such a fight "fair" - it makes it biased in their advantage. The way to win in EVE PvP is to show the opponent what looks like a fair fight or one they can win, and once they are committed to it, turn it to something else, by for example springing a trap and increasing your DPS, revealing that your fits were not what they looked like, simply being more experienced and more disciplined, or indeed, bringing in remote reps.

The simplest way to deal with a single individual or small fleet using RR, neutral or otherwise, is to engage them on a stargate. Have part of your fleet in high DPS ships and another part in fast tackle ships with webs. Have your DPS engage their combat ships but keep your tackle ships unaggressed, then when their logistics starts repping immediately switch to a logistics ship and force it to jump. At that point you have your tackle ships jump through the gate and engage the logistics ships on the other side of the gate.

The logistics ship will try and burn back to the gate while you're slowly killing it, and the other logistics ships will have to either jump through to assist the tackled one leaving the combat ships on the other side without reps or stay with the combat ships and let the jumped logi die.

That's bad advice. Stealth bombers involved in any sort of highsec engagement will end up either dying instantly or warping off the second they get targeted without contributing meaningfully to the fight. They're also particularly useless against low signature radius ships like Guardians and Scimitars.

The high EFT DPS and ZOMGSOAMAZING ability to cloak might make stealth bombers seem appealing to an inexperienced player, but the reality is that pretty much any other ship you can fly is a better choice for highsec PVP than a stealth bomber.