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Authority & Leadership - An Eve Dissertation
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Vegeta
Love Death and Robots.
#21 - 2012-04-04 23:53:18 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Very cool - thanks for posting it up. I'll try to read it today. Do you mind if I put a blog post up pointing to this thread?

-Liang


Be my guest.

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Vegeta
Love Death and Robots.
#22 - 2012-04-04 23:54:04 UTC
Stellar Vix wrote:
Can you explain to me why all the rookies in SWA think I'm the CEO of SWA?

-Vix



Is it because you keep telling them you're the CEO of State War Academy?

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Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-04-05 00:09:03 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:


It would be interesting to see if/how restrictions on movement (such as a very distinct alliance culture that creates loyalty to the alliance as an abstract entity, or the use of recruitment blacklists) impact governance and conflict resolution.


All the people on the blacklists form a giant corp and call it Goonswarm


(thats a joke)

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#24 - 2012-04-05 00:23:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
References are beyond blurry for a dissertation, but then again the definition of a dissertation may be quite different between countries and sciences.

Interesting read nonetheless.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Jon Taggart
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-04-08 02:57:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jon Taggart
Just spotted this thread and I was wondering how the dissertation was coming along. Also, is this for a Bachelor's degree or for your Masters?

Pretty interesting stuff, as there is a lack of academic research pertaining to MMOs besides World of Warcraft, especially for games like EVE Online.

Nice to see other people interested in the field as well. I'll be heading to Columbia U. for my Doctorate in Communications this fall and MMOs will be the focus of my research, especially this game.

Interesting stuff and good luck with your work!
Vegeta
Love Death and Robots.
#26 - 2012-04-08 12:45:12 UTC
Jon Taggart wrote:
Just spotted this thread and I was wondering how the dissertation was coming along. Also, is this for a Bachelor's degree or for your Masters?

Pretty interesting stuff, as there is a lack of academic research pertaining to MMOs besides World of Warcraft, especially for games like EVE Online.

Nice to see other people interested in the field as well. I'll be heading to Columbia U. for my Doctorate in Communications this fall and MMOs will be the focus of my research, especially this game.

Interesting stuff and good luck with your work!



It's ready and linked in the first post. It's for a bachelor's degree.

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Jon Taggart
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-04-08 12:48:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Jon Taggart
Vegeta wrote:
It's ready and linked in the first post. It's for a bachelor's degree.


Ah! Okay. Thought it was a continuing project, didn't know you already completed it.

Is it common for Bachelor's degrees to require dissertations?

Good luck with the rest of your studies!
Vegeta
Love Death and Robots.
#28 - 2012-04-09 14:31:13 UTC
Jon Taggart wrote:
Vegeta wrote:
It's ready and linked in the first post. It's for a bachelor's degree.


Ah! Okay. Thought it was a continuing project, didn't know you already completed it.

Is it common for Bachelor's degrees to require dissertations?

Good luck with the rest of your studies!


I may write more at some point.

In the UK I think dissertations are the norm for social science degrees. Most are pretty short though because students will have other modules going on at the same time.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#29 - 2012-04-09 18:11:44 UTC
Read it through and was impressed. Some good original thought in there. The last section seemed a little rushed-- but then again, aren't last sections always rushed? Big smile Well done m8.
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-04-09 18:32:06 UTC
To be honest I don't. I just explain the game to them give them rules to follow and try to set them up for success and encourage other older players in the channel to do the same...

I think I just answered my own question.

-Vix

SWA Instructor, Commander Select Currently being blamed as SWA's CEO SWA PVP Program
Vegeta
Love Death and Robots.
#31 - 2012-04-09 19:28:38 UTC
Stellar Vix wrote:
To be honest I don't. I just explain the game to them give them rules to follow and try to set them up for success and encourage other older players in the channel to do the same...

I think I just answered my own question.

-Vix


You did indeed. You have become their de facto CEO (or mentor) in some sense. Holding the title is much less important.

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Ibn Taymiyyah
eM' Roid Extraction Services
#32 - 2012-04-09 19:57:22 UTC
Well, it was great reading this thread, not so much for the content of the OP (sorry Vegeta, didn't read your dissertation... yet!), but for the whole history lesson.

I kept getting the name "Vegeta" poping up whenever PvP was the subject, mostly due to another vet that used to run with you (Vegeta). He biomassed his char and no longer plays, but his character was Ant1Soci1al, or something very similar to that. He always brings up the "old days" of passari and the real PvPers. Do you remember him? Smile

Up until today, I dismissed all his talk of glorious old days, fighting mostly outnumbered, thinking he had little clue on how EVE really worked, but looking at that m0o history link someone put up, I see he was not lying.

Anyway, this is indeed all off-topic, but figured I'd give a shout out to someone who kept coming up even ever PvP was mentioned.

This thread made my day! Thx Big smile
FeralShadow
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-04-09 21:22:25 UTC
Your dissertation was fascinating and I've found all your points are pretty spot on with my own experiences. It is quite awesome that social research of online communities is becoming a popular field; it is an area that I love reading about.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Vegeta
Love Death and Robots.
#34 - 2012-04-10 19:38:44 UTC
FeralShadow wrote:
Your dissertation was fascinating and I've found all your points are pretty spot on with my own experiences. It is quite awesome that social research of online communities is becoming a popular field; it is an area that I love reading about.


Sadly WoW attracts the most interest, but I hope we see more Eve related stuff in the future.

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Jon Taggart
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-04-10 19:41:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Jon Taggart
Vegeta wrote:
FeralShadow wrote:
Your dissertation was fascinating and I've found all your points are pretty spot on with my own experiences. It is quite awesome that social research of online communities is becoming a popular field; it is an area that I love reading about.


Sadly WoW attracts the most interest, but I hope we see more Eve related stuff in the future.


Bingo right there. Academic research on World of Warcraft is becoming quite stale. The Daedalus Project and even Richard Bartle's research are some of the main ones that cover much of what WoW offers.

As you've noticed as well, many researchers shy away from EVE Online. In fact, you'd be surprised how few researchers actually play the games they're researching.

The quality and depth of many questionnaires and surveys are questionable. Not a whole lot of useful qualitative research as well.
Vegeta
Love Death and Robots.
#36 - 2012-04-23 15:16:02 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Read it through and was impressed. Some good original thought in there. The last section seemed a little rushed-- but then again, aren't last sections always rushed? Big smile Well done m8.


I'm glad you picked up on that, because that's exactly how I felt while writing it. I would have loved to have had another 2-3k words as there is quite a bit more to be said on the topic.

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Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-04-23 16:19:20 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Read till:

This account is intentionally limited to
members of Tranquility’s larger null sec alliances who control and wage war over territory, for I
believe it is here that Eve’s leadership structures are most pronounced and amenable to research.

Then lost intrest because of the narrowmindedness of the dissertation.

You are an idiot.

Bokononist

 
No'mak
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2012-04-23 16:42:50 UTC
I've downloaded it, but will have to get to it later.

I do research in the field of Leadership myself, so this looks interesting. Although a quick scan of your references section suggests we might follow different approaches ;). However, since this is a bachelor's you have plenty of time to be shown the light!

What are your future plans?

I'd love to do some studies in EVE. I'm restricted to football (soccer) at the moment though.
Vegeta
Love Death and Robots.
#39 - 2012-05-03 17:56:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Vegeta
No'mak wrote:
I've downloaded it, but will have to get to it later.

I do research in the field of Leadership myself, so this looks interesting. Although a quick scan of your references section suggests we might follow different approaches ;). However, since this is a bachelor's you have plenty of time to be shown the light!

What are your future plans?

I'd love to do some studies in EVE. I'm restricted to football (soccer) at the moment though.


Plan is to do further study in Politics and International Studies. What are you referring to when you say "the light"? Big smile

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Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#40 - 2012-05-03 18:04:03 UTC
Vegeta, what does the counter say about the participation level?

/incorrigible
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