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yelworC
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-04-08 18:48:40 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
I can't tell you what I know, but what I know is important. Also, it's critical to the C&P thread, which apparently is the "whine about everything" thread of late. Even if it is an exploit, C&P has no axe to lend you. (And definitely not my bow)

What exactly did you think posting about something you "can't talk about" would do for you in C&P? Publicity that you have thoughts?

I can't tell you what I know because I don't want to take the heat from CCP for explaining to people how to use exploits, I'm sorry. As I stated in OP, I wrote what I wrote hoping to get attention from GMs since it appears they aren't paying much attention to me through the petition system.
This doesn't mean I do not want to discuss the matter with players who do know what I'm talking about, of course.

Also, the C&P thread seemed like the most logical place to post, since there isn't any "discuss exploits" forum thread (for obvious reasons).
GhostDragoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-04-08 20:01:17 UTC
yelworC wrote:
I write this post in frustration with people who keep "acting smart" and avoid using acceleration gates in static plexes (I'm writing this specifically concerning Pith DED 2/10 plex). This is a well known exploit so I won't go into specifics of how it's done, I'll just say that most (if not every) static plex requires some sort of key or pass to enter it and the exploit allows the circumvention of this. I'll also say that the exploit does not involve any particular player skill or ingenuity - anyone can do it with a month old character.

Maybe 2 weeks ago I petitioned a player who was repeatedly using this exploit and I got a mail from the GM the following day stating that they will see into it, but due to privacy issues they can't reveal to me any specific steps they will take, and will now close the petition.

A week has passed, and the guy kept performing the same thing. Not only that, a few others also appeared doing the same thing. And this is an observation based on watching just 2 systems. So I posted the petition again, reporting the new guys (for 1 on them I'm pretty sure is just an alt of the first guy). Another week has passed and still nothing is happening. The new petitions are still open, I got no feedback whatsoever, and the guy(s) are still doing their routine.

So, I don't really care what CCP does to those players. Warn them, ban them, spank them, whatever. I don't seek punishment, it is irrelevant to me. I do seek however that they stop using the exploit, because I'm starting to feel stupid for playing by the rules.

I'd like to see a comment form a CCP GM regarding this post.

TY in advance.


1 - Why is this in C&P... ?

2 - As already stated, discussing GM interactions is against the EULA, being that every situation is up to the interpretation of the GM you get at the time methinks I would drop the subject. You are currently griping to C&P because a GM didn't act in YOUR favor on an issue that you reported. This happens all the time, deal with it.

3 - So you literally said in your OP that...

yelworC wrote:
I write this post in frustration with people who keep "acting smart"


Well, you will come across tons of people that are smarter than you in life. People will figure out work-arounds & solutions that you didn't come up with first. Are you going to resort to calling the cops every time someone releases a product that you didn't think of?
yelworC
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-04-08 20:19:50 UTC  |  Edited by: yelworC
GhostDragoon wrote:


1 - Why is this in C&P... ?

2 - As already stated, discussing GM interactions is against the EULA, being that every situation is up to the interpretation of the GM you get at the time methinks I would drop the subject. You are currently griping to C&P because a GM didn't act in YOUR favor on an issue that you reported. This happens all the time, deal with it.

3 - So you literally said in your OP that...

yelworC wrote:
I write this post in frustration with people who keep "acting smart"


Well, you will come across tons of people that are smarter than you in life. People will figure out work-arounds & solutions that you didn't come up with first. Are you going to resort to calling the cops every time someone releases a product that you didn't think of?


1 - As I wrote earlier - because there isn't a "discuss exploit" subforum. C&P seemed more logical than bugs, issues and workarounds (maybe I am wrong with this one).

2 - The GM didn't act at all, and that is the primary reason I posted. Also, given the fact that the reported issue IS an exploit (as ruled by CCP), I don't see how the GM could have acted "not in my favor".

3 - There is a reason I used quotation marks in "acting smart". I knew about the exploit long before I had the issue with this "smarter player". Are you going to resort to NOT call the cops every time someone steals your wallet just because you don't steal other people's wallets?
GhostDragoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-04-08 20:25:36 UTC
yelworC wrote:
[quote=GhostDragoon]
Are you going to resort to NOT call the cops every time someone steals your wallet just because you don't steal other people's wallets?


Correct, I'm not a idiot so I don't get my wallet stolen. Had the same one since I was 12 now that I think of it. You reported your grievance to the GM, they'll deal with it as they see fit, and you have no reason to be griping to C&P. Many people have attempted to warn you so here's a pre-ban farewell and "I hope you recover swiftly from your loss."
yelworC
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-04-08 20:58:58 UTC
GhostDragoon wrote:
yelworC wrote:
[quote=GhostDragoon]
Are you going to resort to NOT call the cops every time someone steals your wallet just because you don't steal other people's wallets?


Correct, I'm not a idiot so I don't get my wallet stolen. Had the same one since I was 12 now that I think of it. You reported your grievance to the GM, they'll deal with it as they see fit, and you have no reason to be griping to C&P. Many people have attempted to warn you so here's a pre-ban farewell and "I hope you recover swiftly from your loss."


You missed my point. Since you're not an idiot, I think you did it on purpose. But anyway, I'm really happy for your wallet.
And if I do get banned over this - farewell to you too.

Over&out.
Mnemosyne Gloob
#26 - 2012-04-08 23:24:50 UTC
Simple solution: Remove static complexes and move them so that they need to be scanned down. *hides*
Zilero
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-04-08 23:33:50 UTC
GhostDragoon wrote:
yelworC wrote:
[quote=GhostDragoon]
Are you going to resort to NOT call the cops every time someone steals your wallet just because you don't steal other people's wallets?


Correct, I'm not a idiot so I don't get my wallet stolen. Had the same one since I was 12 now that I think of it. You reported your grievance to the GM, they'll deal with it as they see fit, and you have no reason to be griping to C&P. Many people have attempted to warn you so here's a pre-ban farewell and "I hope you recover swiftly from your loss."


So your one year old wallet has not been stolen yet. Congratulations.

On a more serious note, did the OP try to escalate his petitions to a senior GM?
EFF ONEF1
Caldari Grand Prix Engineering
#28 - 2012-04-09 07:17:41 UTC
You are unlikely to see any movement on this by CCP.

Like 9/10 game companies, they do not fix "exploits" until some brave soul posts on the forums how to do it and everyone starts trying it.
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#29 - 2012-04-09 14:52:14 UTC
None of the usual complexes that require keys have been requiring them anymore. i think CCP borked something.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#30 - 2012-04-10 04:37:02 UTC
GhostDragoon wrote:
... I don't get my wallet stolen. Had the same one since I was 12 now that I think of it.
Not bad. Had mine since I was 9.

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#31 - 2012-04-10 05:30:22 UTC
Im going to **** your ship up just because you posted useless **** in c and p

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#32 - 2012-04-10 09:27:05 UTC
Can't they just MWD to the next room with a frigate? Most plex rooms are 10,000km apart. Takes 33'20" at 5000 m/s.

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