Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Add a Structure anchorable to a POS that allows the use of he Local System Communications Channel. It would require Sov upgrades no doubt

I don't feel "AFK-Cloaking" is a problem or that it "needs to be addressed". What most people mean when they gripe about "AFK-Cloaking" is anyone in local who is cloaked for more time than those watch the cloaker have for a play session. They use all kinds of mis-characterizations to make the problem appear worse than it is. If someone is truly afk (which honestly is not what they care about) They are zero threat.. and will do nothing dangerous. It's the non-afk pilot that they wish to nerf - and so far every plan they have presented here is so onerous that it would break cloaking for all other uses plus the recon they are trying to end.

The no local solution would solve any talk about afk cloaking only because from then on the gripers would not be able to tell if there was anyone cloaked in local. The reason the gripers don't go for this is because they don't really care about afk cloaking....they want to stop the non afk cloaked.

Neither of these "issues" are urgent or need attention.

You aren't really thinking deep enough.

AFK Cloaking isn't people complaining about literally AFK cloakers, it's a complaint about a tactic that happens to be conveniently labeled "AFK Cloaking", because "sometimes AFK, sometimes not AFK cloaked ships that attack/hot drop active players" is a terrible ******* title.

And I'd argue these issues do need attention, because the current situation is hated by both care bears and PvPers alike. Fortunately, from what I've heard, CCP have plans in the works to replace local with an intel tool and they were tossing around cloak-hunter style concepts.

Personally I'm not too sure on cloak hunting stuff, hopefully cloaking can be left as is. I suppose it depends on the intel changes, and how much of an advantage it gives to the aggressors.

I would do this if the side effects were that everyone in a POS shield and docked up be ejected into open space, just so everything is fair. I mean we wouldn't want to hurt anyones feeling with actually being afk no matter where we are.

the easiest solution to "fix" this is pretty simple

show only those in the local list, you can actually "see" i.e are on the same grid as you

by far, the most simple solution to this without adding, anchoring, nerfing or skilling something else....


but ccp is going to change something, thats certain .... so please keep qualm!)( :O)

[quote=Tarn Kugisa]Add a Structure anchorable to a POS that allows the use of he Local System Communications Channel. It would require Sov upgrades no doubt [/quote

This would not fix the afk cloaker problem in the minds of the people complaining. What various NS groups want is to be able to treat NS areas like HS. Basically you lock down an area by controlling the gates into and out of the area. Now you can mine, and rat in peace just it was HS. Only reaping the rewards of NS mining and bounties. The problem as it is seen is that most corps and alliances shutdown all operations and head to the POS/station when ever anyone unknown is in local. As a result a single afk cloaker can shutdown and entire system, and handful can shutdown a region

If you remove local and have an anchorable structure. These same groups complaining will promptly anchor one and we'll be back to square one again. Because they like the safety local provides. It would be better to remove local entirely so these folks get use to

The people who really want afk cloaking nerfed are the botters, power site runners, and miners. Most bot script safe up when anyone else comes into local. Power site runners tend to use really expensive ships (sometime capital ships) to maximize their profit. They won't risk these ships if there is a possibility of a hot drop. Miners are just screwed as there simply aren't useful mining ships that can take on a stealth bomber effectively much survive a hot drop

Honestly CCP needs to look at the following

1) Remove local in NS, and maybe lower security LS

2) Scale back the ability to hotdrop anywhere, any time, and let cap ships use gates. A cloak in system isn't a huge threat if he can't drop a fleet directly on top of you. (Maybe make it so you must be 1000km from the nearest object like a POS, station, gate, asteroid....)

3) Give miners a way to mine in NS with some safety. For example blast mining (fairly quick, but you lose 80% of minerals), or combat capable mining ships.

If its harassment its against the EULA and you need to file a petition, see what the GM's and Dev's say about the whole issue.