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been outta the game a while, a few questions

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Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-07 23:37:05 UTC
the new battlecruisers, I heard while I was gone that theyre essentially purpose built ganking ships. I been gone as I said, Im coming back now, so the question is, are they that or do they have viable tank setups to do stuff like lvl IVs with them?

I looked at the Caldari one and was fairly surprised to see it has Hybrids... Cause the Rohk is so popular... or isnt it meant for PVE? Or does it not have the issues the Rohk has?

As I said in another thread, Id heard when I was leaving a Drake nerf was planned, but as far as I can see (then again, of course I could be wrong) nothing changed?

Basically Ive been out since the Interdiction or so, and just came back this month, but havent really been looking at changes :p

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-04-08 00:58:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
Richard Hammond II wrote:
the new battlecruisers, I heard while I was gone that theyre essentially purpose built ganking ships. I been gone as I said, Im coming back now, so the question is, are they that or do they have viable tank setups to do stuff like lvl IVs with them?

I looked at the Caldari one and was fairly surprised to see it has Hybrids... Cause the Rohk is so popular... or isnt it meant for PVE? Or does it not have the issues the Rohk has?

As I said in another thread, Id heard when I was leaving a Drake nerf was planned, but as far as I can see (then again, of course I could be wrong) nothing changed?

Basically Ive been out since the Interdiction or so, and just came back this month, but havent really been looking at changes :p


all but one of the new BCs have no drone bay, so you will not be able to mission with them unless you downsize a gun or something.

the drake "nerf" is not so bad, they just change the bonuses to +5% RoF and 10% missile velocity. so you're losing a chunk of your tank but you win fully selectable damage types. basically drake is now a poor man's tengu.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Annie Anomie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-08 01:05:45 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
the new battlecruisers, I heard while I was gone that theyre essentially purpose built ganking ships. I been gone as I said, Im coming back now, so the question is, are they that or do they have viable tank setups to do stuff like lvl IVs with them?


Haven't actually EFT'd it. They seem light on tank generally so probably not so good?

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I looked at the Caldari one and was fairly surprised to see it has Hybrids... Cause the Rohk is so popular... or isnt it meant for PVE? Or does it not have the issues the Rohk has?


Because it's a dedicated sniping / gun platform. Missiles don't cut it in this role. I keep meaning to buy a blokh. I like the model.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-04-08 01:51:48 UTC
since the hybrid buff, rail rokh is a nice mission platform.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-04-08 03:20:33 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
since the hybrid buff, rail rokh is a nice mission platform.


Ill have to try it. Ive had Hybrid trained a while but never used it given the issues

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-04-08 12:56:04 UTC
the following build is capstable when not tanking, projects over 600dps to over 60km and costs under 400mil:

[Rokh, lvl4]

425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L

Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

I should buy an Ishtar.

Boomhaur
#7 - 2012-04-09 09:44:37 UTC
Doubt they will change the Drake, if they did give it the 5% rof and 10% velocity increase per level it be overpowered. Yes it lose it's nice passive tank but it would gain a lot of dmg potential and would be approaching the Nighthawk and Tengu territory in terms of killing stuff. That is if it doesn't in fact exceed it, which it just might as the ability to use any ammo type will increase the dmg potential greatly, something both the NH and Tengu can't do. (Don't forget the Drake has 7 missile hardponts, NH 6, Tengu typically has 5)

Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you.

Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#8 - 2012-04-09 10:55:29 UTC
Boomhaur wrote:
Doubt they will change the Drake, if they did give it the 5% rof and 10% velocity increase per level it be overpowered. Yes it lose it's nice passive tank but it would gain a lot of dmg potential and would be approaching the Nighthawk and Tengu territory in terms of killing stuff. That is if it doesn't in fact exceed it, which it just might as the ability to use any ammo type will increase the dmg potential greatly, something both the NH and Tengu can't do. (Don't forget the Drake has 7 missile hardponts, NH 6, Tengu typically has 5)


Tengu has 5 if you're doing it wrong.


Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-04-09 12:10:16 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Boomhaur wrote:
Doubt they will change the Drake, if they did give it the 5% rof and 10% velocity increase per level it be overpowered. Yes it lose it's nice passive tank but it would gain a lot of dmg potential and would be approaching the Nighthawk and Tengu territory in terms of killing stuff. That is if it doesn't in fact exceed it, which it just might as the ability to use any ammo type will increase the dmg potential greatly, something both the NH and Tengu can't do. (Don't forget the Drake has 7 missile hardponts, NH 6, Tengu typically has 5)


Tengu has 5 if you're doing it wrong.




Depends on a lot of stuff, remember that 1+ launcher HM is +80 dps +/-

Just like I like the +1 low slot on the navy mega for +1 dmg mod applying on 7 guns rather less 1 low and +1 high slot Blink

This being said you can have a 6-6-5 with Tengu but will need some pimp on tank/prop Bear