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T2 BPO Removal [Support]

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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#101 - 2012-04-07 23:24:24 UTC
Devan Reale wrote:
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
This thread is never leaving front page, Well while I have an active account. New players beware T2BPO and CCP pets are still ruining this game for new players with there super duper ISK gifts and special items.


I'm sure new players will hopefully understand the value of working for something rather than having is given to them, which is what you and others in this thread are advocating. Hard work means nothing to you and "EvA", so you insist that CCP penalize those that put in years--- YEARS--- of hard work in favor of give-aways.

There's something you people just don't get:
1) If you don't want T2 BPOs in the game, buy them and then trash them. But you're not willing to put the money into doing that, unlike those of us that have T2 BPOs.
2) You don't understand the economics behind T2 BPO usage: it's been stated over and over in this thread, and you still goose-step on the removal bandwagon without giving a rational explanation of what is wrong having them in game. CCPs own numbers show that BPO production is a MINOR part of the market, overall, but you still seem to have the misguided notion that everything is out there because of T2 BPO production. Grow up.

For the new industrialists, I offer you the opposite side the the argument: work hard to get to a place of success, and reap the rewards. None of the black helicopter, "CCP pets" boolshite exists here, unlike what the advocates consistently fall back on. There's one truth here about the remove-T2-BPO side of this argument (and someone mentioned it earlier):

Envy.

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T2BPO were given for free as gifts both sanctioned and unsanctioned by ccp along with corrupt lottery. Remove them and end CCP's darkest hour once and for all.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#102 - 2012-04-08 00:20:20 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
T2BPO were given for free as gifts both sanctioned and unsanctioned by ccp along with corrupt lottery. Remove them and end CCP's darkest hour once and for all.

You do realize the T20 incident involved 6 BPO, that were returned to CCP:

CCP t20: on recent allegations
Stella SGP
#103 - 2012-04-08 00:24:21 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
T2BPO were given for free as gifts both sanctioned and unsanctioned by ccp along with corrupt lottery. Remove them and end CCP's darkest hour once and for all.

CCP's biggest failure is allowing you to open an account.
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#104 - 2012-04-08 00:47:28 UTC
Look at all the T2 BPO owners crying at the thought of having to do invention like the rest of EVE players. It's so sexy.
Tachidii
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2012-04-08 01:29:33 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Look at all the T2 BPO owners crying at the thought of having to do invention like the rest of EVE players. It's so sexy.


lol do you think owners of T2 Bpos don't do inventions? Dude go play WoW, there you get lots of shinies for free. You will fit right in with all the QQ'ers there.
Stella SGP
#106 - 2012-04-08 01:36:23 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Look at all the T2 BPO owners crying at the thought of having to do invention like the rest of EVE players. It's so sexy.

Tears? What tears?
Devan Reale
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#107 - 2012-04-08 01:49:46 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:


T2BPO were given for free as gifts both sanctioned and unsanctioned by ccp along with corrupt lottery. Remove them and end CCP's darkest hour once and for all.


I just realized you're trolling, and not as stupid as you were portraying. My bad. I give you 5/10. Well done.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#108 - 2012-04-08 03:18:26 UTC
Ah crap, yeah trolling. 6/10

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Raven Ether
Doomheim
#109 - 2012-04-08 06:07:10 UTC
Meh, they are an ISK printing machine. Whoever has a decent one just doesn't care about making ISK anymore.


Give them the finger and remove them.
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#110 - 2012-04-08 07:45:52 UTC
Tachidii wrote:
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Look at all the T2 BPO owners crying at the thought of having to do invention like the rest of EVE players. It's so sexy.


lol do you think owners of T2 Bpos don't do inventions? Dude go play WoW, there you get lots of shinies for free. You will fit right in with all the QQ'ers there.


I insist that all those defending T2BPO go play wow clearly they like to be gifted items that allow a massive advantage over regular players. Item's that can be locked away in stations pumping items/isk out at zero effort 24/7. While their oppenents ahve to put a lot of effort into invention to create their items.
Shadowsword
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2012-04-08 08:28:01 UTC
Desimus Maximus wrote:
Shadowsword wrote:
The Breadmaster wrote:
Remove invention... because lets face it, f*** that clickfest.

Add T1/T2 toggle to every BPO in game.

Easy theorycrafting from here by CCP.



Great idea, let's remove whole layers of industry and make it super-easy like wow. Because what set Eve appart from other vanilla MMOs is not it's depth, not at all...


I swear, the level of stupid in this thread is reaching critical mass.


So T2 BPOs make the game more difficult as opposed to forcing them to use their research skills like the rest of us?? Your logic is flawed. The T2 BPOs make it easier for a small few, removing them makes it more difficult for ALL of us.


That's not what he proposed. What he want is scrap the whole invention process, datacore/decryptor acquisition, blueprint market, and all that only to basically give all T2 bpos to everyone.


Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:

I insist that all those defending T2BPO go play wow clearly they like to be gifted items that allow a massive advantage over regular players. Item's that can be locked away in stations pumping items/isk out at zero effort 24/7. While their oppenents ahve to put a lot of effort into invention to create their items


Buy them. Trash them. And fraps it. If you don't even have the conviction to get started on that, you're just yet another envious jerk who can't stand the fact that playing longer give you an edge, like in any other MMO.

A smart man who doesn't want to compete with old players would concentrate his invention efforts on items that don't have T2 bpos, like HIC, instead of crying here.
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#112 - 2012-04-08 09:02:27 UTC
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