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Minmatar FW inside Derelik Ammatar Mandate?
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AraniFyr
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-08 01:19:32 UTC
I recently moved into Derelik which is controled by the Ammatar mandate, im interested in joining Minmatar FW, will i still be able to enter this space safely ( as in the navy wont come chasing me down )??

thanks
Remistor Callaway
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-04-08 01:56:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Remistor Callaway
Minmatar are allied with Gallente, and Amarr with Caldari.

If you're in Minmatar faction you'll be targeted by Concords(EDIT: By faction police, not by Concords, sorry about that) after a few seconds in the enemy space.

I heard you still have the time to jump/warp/dock in enemy space, it become a problem only if you're in space a little longer. So if you need to go to Jita for some reason it should be ok.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#3 - 2012-04-08 02:28:07 UTC
Remistor Callaway wrote:
If you're in Minmatar faction you'll be targeted by Concords after a few seconds in the enemy space.



NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

You get shot by the faction police, not CONCORD! Faction police are dodgeable, don't insta-kill your ship, can be killed, and are generally pansies (the Minmatar ones are also kind enough to web you so you warp faster).

But yes, in general you can get away from faction police without being shot. I have a rule of thumb: don't warp around enemy hisec in a ship that aligns in more than 5 seconds. 5 seconds is enough to get most ships out safely.

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AraniFyr
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-04-08 02:39:04 UTC
Yes i understand that, however im in ammatar space, which is affiliated with amarr but it's their own space which has both minmatar and amarr inside it ( thukkers ect )

so im wondering because it's not amarr empire but just an affiliate, will they attack me?

I want freakin pyro rocks but still close to rens is why im here....damn ore redistribution lol
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#5 - 2012-04-08 03:24:26 UTC
I don't think the Ammatar shoot Minmatar militia. Khanid do, though. It's weird. Jump in there in a pod, and if they yell at you in local ("blah blah it's the last time you travel in our space, criminal, blah blah") then they do. Otherwise, they don't.

Hope to see you around Minmatar FW!

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Tri Vetra
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-04-08 07:46:56 UTC
I seem to remember shooting an event sansha mothership somewhere in derelik with a bunch of minnies helping out, so I'm fairly sure ammatar is free-for-all i.e. both militias can enter freely, which means that while NPCs will ignore you, players probably won't.

(but no one ever goes to derelik what a stupid region of space)
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#7 - 2012-04-08 08:02:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Ammatar Mandate is safe while in FW.

If you have low Ammatar standings due to e.g. missions or whatever, they will shoot you, but that's not related to FW.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#8 - 2012-04-09 11:55:59 UTC

While I can confirm that Ammatar will not shoot you, you will take derived standings hits towards the Ammatar Mandate. Eventually this could be enough to bring you below -5 and thus make you hostile towards them.