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suggestion: opt out of character transfers

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ugh zug
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-07 08:27:34 UTC  |  Edited by: ugh zug
You now have the tech to prevent characters from transferring due to botting. I would like the ability to lock my characters to my account permanently without needing to break your ToS.

edit and another bit of tech to prevent biomassing on selected characters, permanently.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-04-07 09:25:51 UTC
Why?
ugh zug
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-07 09:43:33 UTC
why not?

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2012-04-07 10:09:48 UTC
ugh zug wrote:
why not?



Because that's an awful reason to do much of anything?
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#5 - 2012-04-07 11:00:09 UTC
I don't see how you could 'accidentally' transfer or biomass a character, why opt out of either?

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ugh zug
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-07 11:17:41 UTC  |  Edited by: ugh zug
if it isn't you? how far does CCP's restoration of hacked accounts go? wouldn't it be better to have peace of mind? in the event of being compromised id rather not lose a 5 year character, wouldn't you? O_o

edit obvious is obvious i'm surprised i had to spell it out for you, i thought most eve players were above average intelligence and paranoid.

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mxzf
Shovel Bros
#7 - 2012-04-07 16:38:38 UTC
Well, since the only time you'll get your account hacked is is you make a mistake and allow someone access to your account information, even if you didn't mean to, then I'd say that people should focus more on their own computer security and less on trying to get CCP to protect them from screwing up.
Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-04-07 19:52:38 UTC
If you get a keylogger, you should be worried about your bank account rather than a videogame.

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ugh zug
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-04-08 01:48:48 UTC
mxzf wrote:
Well, since the only time you'll get your account hacked is is you make a mistake and allow someone access to your account information, even if you didn't mean to, then I'd say that people should focus more on their own computer security and less on trying to get CCP to protect them from screwing up.


there's more then one way to get access to an account, to believe it doesn't occur by any other means but account sharing is a misconception. there are somethings you cannot prevent, for example you put yourself at risk every time you access your player run corps website, every time you log into a player owned ts or vent server, etc hundreds of ways... you don't even need to be playing the game or have an active account to be hacked.

having control over what happens to my characters in that event is something that i find very appealing.

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Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-04-08 02:01:05 UTC
Virgil Travis wrote:
I don't see how you could 'accidentally' transfer or biomass a character, why opt out of either?


There have been cases of girlfriends deleting 3 year old characters, but of course since CCP can't confirm that, they can't restore the character.

I really rather like the idea of being able to flag a character as "locked" so it can't be biomassed or transferred.

Of course, the issue would be entirely sidestepped if those authenticators we got at the 2011 fanfest got implemented.

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Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-04-08 02:02:01 UTC
mxzf wrote:
Well, since the only time you'll get your account hacked is is you make a mistake and allow someone access to your account information, even if you didn't mean to, then I'd say that people should focus more on their own computer security and less on trying to get CCP to protect them from screwing up.


No worries. I'll make sure your bank knows your opinion on this next time you go on an international holiday and get your credit card stolen.

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Kestrix
The Whispering
#12 - 2012-04-13 11:02:29 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
If you get a keylogger, you should be worried about your bank account rather than a videogame.


Which is why I don't do online banking... but I have no choice with eve and I like the idea of being able to lock my character to my account.

I would like to go one step further with this suggestion and say do away with character transphers all together. It would IMO be a blow to the botters having to train up a character every time from scratch instead of buying isk to get a fully trained character.
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-04-13 11:19:12 UTC
I cant see a good reason why not to do this,

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.

ugh zug
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-04-19 13:38:00 UTC
i doubt ccp will even consider this due to the loss of revenue it would cause.

if they added a fee to locking your account and characters... maybe... although that's kind of messed up.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#15 - 2012-04-19 13:47:49 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
Permanently locking a character would be a terrible idea. You'd need to be able to unlock it, otherwise you could regret noobishly locking a character two years ago and now not having the space to buy a better-trained character that you want. And if you can unlock the character, then there's little point in locking it in the first place.

edit: They could just give us the ability to set a secondary password for biomassing/transferring.

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Trollin
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-04-19 14:05:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Trollin
u do give 50% of login credential to anybody selling you a toon iirc, so its not impossible to assume they could brute your pw, i never been locked out of eve for incorrect login attemts yet, having the option to bind your character so it couldnt be changed is a reasonable suggestion for an option for the website to have, but as ccp shy from phone calls it would be hard to reverse without substantial changes to the company itself i imagine

We are our own worst enemy.

Quade Warren
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-04-19 14:06:15 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Permanently locking a character would be a terrible idea. You'd need to be able to unlock it, otherwise you could regret noobishly locking a character two years ago and now not having the space to buy a better-trained character that you want. And if you can unlock the character, then there's little point in locking it in the first place.

edit: They could just give us the ability to set a secondary password for biomassing/transferring.


Or what Sir Substance said further up. I'd pay a one time fee even up to $30 for an authenticator to prevent everything involved in this thread. This isn't WoW where I can get my character back up to lvl 80 in 3 months. If I lose a six year character, no matter the causes, I'm probably not going to be happy about it because I just lost six real time years of planning. I'd like the tools to protect myself in this case.

If I don't buy the tools, I deserve it.