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Salicaz
Verrimus Caelum
#41 - 2012-04-06 15:01:21 UTC
No one really gives a **** who's name is in the top left corner. We did it for a nice fight (which was had by all parties).

To then take it back unopposed and claim a victory is rather sad.

We did it for the fight, not the **** swinging.
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
#42 - 2012-04-06 16:30:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Damar Rocarion
I think CCP made another unannounced "fix" to FW plexing with one of these recent patches (no, i'm not telling what they did).
I need to run few more tests and comfirm it, but if they really did, it will muck up plexing even more now. Go CCP Lol
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-04-06 17:18:12 UTC
Damar Rocarion wrote:
I think CCP made another unannounced "fix" to FW plexing with one of these recent patches (no, i'm not telling what they did).
I need to run few more tests and comfirm it, but if they really did, it will muck up plexing even more now. Go CCP Lol



*ding dong*

"paging hans to the csm front desk, thats hans to the front desk, we have a situation with fw, some ass you promised to kick for us needs kicking"

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#44 - 2012-04-06 17:21:21 UTC
Damar Rocarion wrote:
I think CCP made another unannounced "fix" to FW plexing with one of these recent patches (no, i'm not telling what they did).
I need to run few more tests and comfirm it, but if they really did, it will muck up plexing even more now. Go CCP Lol

Just remember: if it looks like something that might be considered an exploit (gives you unfair advantage, etc), petition it to a GM before using it and keep the reply if it states it's working as intended / not considered an exploit. That way, if someone petitions you for it later you have a thing to show that you reported it yourself and got told it's fine to use it. :)
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#45 - 2012-04-06 18:15:06 UTC
If Damar is referring to that little nugget he mentioned earlier today then there is no *new* exploit, but there are some CCP asses in need of righteous kicking Smile
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
#46 - 2012-04-06 19:15:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Damar Rocarion
Muad 'dib wrote:
*ding dong*

"paging hans to the csm front desk, thats hans to the front desk, we have a situation with fw, some ass you promised to kick for us needs kicking"


Well, Hans didn't see it worthwhile to even acknowledge he received the explantion for "standings bug" I sent him so I dont see why he would bother with this one either, if he asked CCP about mechanic change. Not that CCP probably even knows their own game mechanics as they have repeatedly demonstrated in communication with GM's. Talking to a piece of wood would often times make more sense.

Edit: Yeah, Veshta, it's the nugget. So no exploit but significant change to plexing mechanics nonetheless. Not that I would reveal it here and give possible advantage to enemies. EM seems to think i'm stupid and assume they subscribe to "fair play". I have not forgotten how rude two of their players were back in 2009 (or was it 2010). Calling Caldari militia a bunch of exploiters right to my face and in person tends to do that.
SigmaPi
Ambivalent Inc
Coney Island Ski Club
#47 - 2012-04-06 19:43:31 UTC
Salicaz wrote:
No one really gives a **** who's name is in the top left corner. We did it for a nice fight (which was had by all parties).

To then take it back unopposed and claim a victory is rather sad.

We did it for the fight, not the **** swinging.


Amarr are the ones who made a big deal out of taking a system when no one was defending it. Just because we took a fight outnumbered and out gunned (out out ECM'd) doesnt mean you guys are 'all that'. It was an enjoyable fight with about an even spread of losses despite being outnumbered 2-to-1.
Salicaz
Verrimus Caelum
#48 - 2012-04-06 20:35:51 UTC
SigmaPi wrote:
Salicaz wrote:
No one really gives a **** who's name is in the top left corner. We did it for a nice fight (which was had by all parties).

To then take it back unopposed and claim a victory is rather sad.

We did it for the fight, not the **** swinging.


Amarr are the ones who made a big deal out of taking a system when no one was defending it. Just because we took a fight outnumbered and out gunned (out out ECM'd) doesnt mean you guys are 'all that'. It was an enjoyable fight with about an even spread of losses despite being outnumbered 2-to-1.


Hardly 2-1 odds, and you had a blackbird, Falcon and 2x scorpsRoll prob about 3 less ecm boats than us granted but we didn't have 2 triage archons on field, we had a couple of scimi's......

This thread was started for the aknowledgement of the "GF".
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#49 - 2012-04-06 21:27:31 UTC
Salicaz wrote:
SigmaPi wrote:
Salicaz wrote:
No one really gives a **** who's name is in the top left corner. We did it for a nice fight (which was had by all parties).

To then take it back unopposed and claim a victory is rather sad.

We did it for the fight, not the **** swinging.


Amarr are the ones who made a big deal out of taking a system when no one was defending it. Just because we took a fight outnumbered and out gunned (out out ECM'd) doesnt mean you guys are 'all that'. It was an enjoyable fight with about an even spread of losses despite being outnumbered 2-to-1.


Hardly 2-1 odds, and you had a blackbird, Falcon and 2x scorpsRoll prob about 3 less ecm boats than us granted but we didn't have 2 triage archons on field, we had a couple of scimi's......

This thread was started for the aknowledgement of the "GF".


Seems to me like it was a chest-beat. GFs can be exchanged in local, forum threads are for ego-boosts.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
SigmaPi
Ambivalent Inc
Coney Island Ski Club
#50 - 2012-04-06 21:28:24 UTC
It was 93 - 41. Maths says more than 2-to-1.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#51 - 2012-04-06 21:35:07 UTC
I dont need my ego boosted thanks, it was merely a GF post in the vain hope you guys wouldn't be dicks about it and **** and moan and also come out saying was a nice scarp.

I guess civil convos with people expressing ones pleasure about a fight is a no no with the minnies. Noted, I would say you should work on that, but meh if ya wanna be dicks be dicks.

If your counting numbers 2 Triage Archons Vs 4 Scimis, 41 Minnies mostly BS VS 88 Amarr(MY FLEET COUNT) Mostly BC's.

It was a good fight, but you guys seem intent on spoiling that. Good job.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Silence iKillYouu
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#52 - 2012-04-07 00:24:43 UTC
Salicaz wrote:
No one really gives a **** who's name is in the top left corner. We did it for a nice fight (which was had by all parties).

To then take it back unopposed and claim a victory is rather sad.

We did it for the fight, not the **** swinging.


Didn't want that system anyway

U mad

Go lay down

EVE Mail me i dont check forums often.
Number X8
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2012-04-07 00:32:11 UTC
I for one enjoyed it very much.. Took over 300,000hp to bring my geddon down. Gf gf .
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#54 - 2012-04-07 06:00:15 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
I dont need my ego boosted thanks, it was merely a GF post in the vain hope you guys wouldn't be dicks about it and **** and moan and also come out saying was a nice scarp.

I guess civil convos with people expressing ones pleasure about a fight is a no no with the minnies. Noted, I would say you should work on that, but meh if ya wanna be dicks be dicks.

If your counting numbers 2 Triage Archons Vs 4 Scimis, 41 Minnies mostly BS VS 88 Amarr(MY FLEET COUNT) Mostly BC's.

It was a good fight, but you guys seem intent on spoiling that. Good job.



Okay, maybe if that was like 88 frigates. But double the #s, regardless BS v. BC is still pretty crazy, especially when you are approaching the triple digits mate. So you can go chill the **** out, lol.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
San Severina
One Point 0
#55 - 2012-04-07 06:44:48 UTC
Big smile
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
#56 - 2012-04-07 17:49:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Damar Rocarion
San Severina wrote:
Big smile


Just a random update on plex mechanics: I have now figured out how one can remove outpost style plexes (respawnable ones) from circulation and thus completely shut down any and all efforts of retaking or defending FW systems by simple virtue of making sure there are no plexes.

Gallentes have used this tactic a lot, such as Moira. and back then it was "working as intended" according to GM's though froggies used different mechanics (cloaking) to achieve this (and patch sorted it out eventually).

I figured out a better mechanic. Let's see if CCP or CSM have interest to fix this one...
Uppsy Daisy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-04-11 07:46:36 UTC
I hope you posted it as a bug. Big smile
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#58 - 2012-04-11 08:57:45 UTC
Uppsy Daisy wrote:
I hope you posted it as a bug. Big smile


working as intended

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
#59 - 2012-04-11 09:36:31 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
Uppsy Daisy wrote:
I hope you posted it as a bug. Big smile


working as intended


Indeed. Lots of people have also asked me how to trigger it (and thus make their lives easier) but since I am decent guy and believe playing by the rules most of the time, I have only revealed it to CCP (bug report), Hans (CSM) and two of my associates who shall remain unnamed right now.

Of course, there is great desire in caldari ranks to return the favor to gallente from the time they were happily preventing plex spawn with their own methods so I might just reveal it to known plexers in my militia to **** off a lot of people on the opposing side, who rightly deserve it.
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