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Cerebral Accelerator > Fail DO NOT GET THIS ITEM
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Joshua Scott Rotsuda
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-04-05 22:48:35 UTC
Hello all,

So I go out of my way and save up for another account. Put +3 implants in for faster learning. Then a buddy tells me to get the Cerebral Accelerator. After reading the text on the booster I think to myself, looks like it stacks.

This item DOES NOT stack with implants. I contact ccp via in game and the gm tells you "o well better luck next time".
Please do not buy this item if you plan to use it with implants in hopes of learning faster.


ccp gms are fail just like this booster.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2012-04-05 23:22:55 UTC
It used to stack, and of course you have to be less than 35 days old.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=257165#post257165
Starbuck McCylon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-05 23:53:18 UTC
It does stack I am using it just now with a a set of plus 3 implants in.
Immortis Vexx
Onyx Moon Industries
#4 - 2012-04-05 23:56:39 UTC
Also can confirm that it does indeed stack. I created a new acct in the last round of "power of 2" that they ran. OP - if you waited too long to use it then it expires after the 30 days are up. In that case, it would not stack :P

Vexx
Joshua Scott Rotsuda
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-04-06 02:18:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshua Scott Rotsuda
If you use evemon or eve hq u will notice it does not stack. check time to complete vs. 3rd party tools and you will notice it does not stack.

CCP GM was like we don't care if you can prove it does not stack. You don't have 2 buy it was there reply and if you do we don't refund you. I created 6 toons and tested this hardcore on 3 with vs. 3 without and the training time was the same.

The Attributes do go up on your character sheet but on the per hour, you will not get any bonus from using the booster.

Example.

Int 33 Mem 27 > Toon with +3 and Booster = 2520 SP/Hour as per EveMon as well as EveHq.

No Booster.

Int. 30 Mem 24 > +3 implants only. 2520 SP/Hour as per EveMon as well as EveHq.

When I brought this up to the GM. He stated "As stated in your alts petition we do not support third party programs nor we do accept evidence from these programs. As stated in your other petition you are getting the proper skill points per hour for your training".

In the three convo's with this GM at no point could he prove I was getting the proper amount. He stated the amount per hour I should be getting. Then stated I should look at my attributes. aka. see ur attributes are there, so how could they not add up properly. When I stated the traning time from evemon and evehq was the same as the game training time as more proof something was wrong he went back to the "we dont support 3rd party" bullshit. I bought these boosters and it took me several hours to raise the isk....

why I decided to post here and let people know this is straight bullshit.

I love how fanfest is all about, we love you guys and want everything to work right. Hours later i'm being told by a gm o well better luck next time.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#6 - 2012-04-06 04:41:41 UTC
Joshua Scott Rotsuda wrote:
If you use evemon or eve hq u will notice it does not stack. check time to complete vs. 3rd party tools and you will notice it does not stack.

Because neither of those apps properly support the implant.
Drevlon Rashon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-06 05:08:54 UTC
If you actually calculate time in the skill training queue in game you will see that it does indeed stack with all implant bonuses. EVEmon doesn't handle the CA because it doesn't see it as a real implant. It's more like a booster or drug outside of the game which you wouldn't be able to see since its not permanent.
Desmont McCallock
#8 - 2012-04-06 09:54:19 UTC
As I have mentioned in about a dozen diff topics, API doesn't provide info if a character is using a CA. Therefore no app has the ability (including EVEMon & EVEHQ) to determine the correct training time when this implant is used. We could add an option to the user to manually specify when the CA is used but this can also lead to same result (incorrect training times) when set and forgotten and the CA bonus period ends.

Although I have directly asked the CCP devs that handle the API to provide us with that info, no actions have been taken.

On behalf of the
EVEMon Dev Team
Greg Valanti
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-04-06 16:51:35 UTC
Desmont McCallock wrote:
As I have mentioned in about a dozen diff topics, API doesn't provide info if a character is using a CA. Therefore no app has the ability (including EVEMon & EVEHQ) to determine the correct training time when this implant is used. We could add an option to the user to manually specify when the CA is used but this can also lead to same result (incorrect training times) when set and forgotten and the CA bonus period ends.

Although I have directly asked the CCP devs that handle the API to provide us with that info, no actions have been taken.

On behalf of the
EVEMon Dev Team


Not that it affects me in any way, but surely your team is smart enough to program the feature to auto-disable on any character over 35 days old?
Joshua Scott Rotsuda
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-04-06 17:17:42 UTC
I understand that evemon and evehq don't support the booster. But if the booster did stack the complete time on training would be off.

Example evemon would say 5hrs and in game training would complete in 4hrs 45min. This is not the case. The training times are a match on all counts. Evemon , evehq and eve in game have all the same training times therefor I have to believe the booster does not stack.

I posted this to bring awereness to all players, just incase im right, it takes more then one person to make ccp take a look at anything but based on what I have seen from other players. ccp has been asked a few times to fix this and its not a priority.
Testerxnot Sheepherder
Get Isk or Die Mining
#11 - 2012-04-06 17:40:24 UTC
It seems very much more likely that you're just a lazy tard.
Ford Chicago
Ziz Zag Ziggurat
#12 - 2012-04-07 20:27:41 UTC
Testerxnot Sheepherder wrote:
It seems very much more likely that you're just a lazy tard.

QFT

EveMon is a player driven piece of software and telling them that they're not doing it good enough for something that only affects chars in their first 30 days is stupid.

Feel free to code the necessary modifications and submit them to the project.
Anddeh McNab
Matari Department of Gun Control
#13 - 2012-04-09 13:35:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Anddeh McNab
Completely forgot about CA, started a new account with Power of Two (on 31st March) but my new character didn't receive one (though I didn't complete the tutorial) and there are no items to redeem. Might be time to write a petition...

EDIT: Words
Helothane
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#14 - 2012-04-09 19:01:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Helothane
From my experience with it on a character, the training time of the skill you are actively training will be accurate in EVEMon or EVEHQ, that is it will match what you see in game. Any queued skills that are not actively training, plus any you have in your skill plan, will not be accurate in the 3rd party tools.

FWIW, I had my character train up Cybernetics V right off the bat, and I was definitely training in excess of 2700 sp/hr with +4 or +5 implants. Character was started on November 7th, and I think she was sitting in her Orca on December 20th.
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-04-09 20:18:01 UTC
Works fine and stacks in game, ***** the bed in Evemon/Evehq. Assuming your under 35 days old of course.

I lied :o
Greg Valanti
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-04-10 11:27:35 UTC
Anddeh McNab wrote:
Completely forgot about CA, started a new account with Power of Two (on 31st March) but my new character didn't receive one (though I didn't complete the tutorial) and there are no items to redeem. Might be time to write a petition...

EDIT: Words


Might have something to do with the fact that the CA is not included in the current PoT promotion.
Anddeh McNab
Matari Department of Gun Control
#17 - 2012-04-10 20:34:34 UTC
Greg Valanti wrote:
Anddeh McNab wrote:
Completely forgot about CA, started a new account with Power of Two (on 31st March) but my new character didn't receive one (though I didn't complete the tutorial) and there are no items to redeem. Might be time to write a petition...

EDIT: Words


Might have something to do with the fact that the CA is not included in the current PoT promotion.


That might explain it then. Oh wells.
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-04-15 13:36:16 UTC
Is there any way to get one of these boosters in-game without a special promotion or anything?
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#19 - 2012-04-15 14:47:03 UTC
Did you guys ever just press the reply button without even reading the first post? Cause I just did.

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-04-15 15:27:19 UTC
lanyaie wrote:
Did you guys ever just press the reply button without even reading the first post? Cause I just did.

Nope. Sometimes I don't read the others posts, but always at least the first.
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