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CCP your RMT policy sucks
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#21 - 2011-09-27 00:51:10 UTC
Obvious whinging ISK-buyer is obvious.

Get the **** out of our game, you worthless bag of shite, and take your entitled crying with you.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Kogh Ayon
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2011-09-27 00:53:58 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
As for rock throwers breaking windows. Well. If you watched and did nothing you are by law, technically, an accomplice.

You draw your own conclusions.


"As you know somebody throwed the rocks and broke window, technically you watched it."

Good conclusion from you.
The Apostle
Doomheim
#23 - 2011-09-27 01:03:36 UTC
Kogh Ayon wrote:
I was playing WOW at the meantime

Ahhh.... My bad. If I had actually READ this bit first I would have realised the error in my ways attempting to have a meaningful, logical discussion.

My view has now changed OP.

It's now a case of, I don't care what happened/happens to your "innocent" arse.

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]
Kogh Ayon
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2011-09-27 04:08:28 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
Kogh Ayon wrote:
I was playing WOW at the meantime

Ahhh.... My bad. If I had actually READ this bit first I would have realised the error in my ways attempting to have a meaningful, logical discussion.

My view has now changed OP.

It's now a case of, I don't care what happened/happens to your "innocent" arse.



Yes, I will really need to apologize that you made this mistake and I will give you another chance to post.
Apollo-Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2011-09-27 05:34:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Apollo-Moor
OP sounds like a RMT'er that's a bit butt hurt he got caught and banned or maybe was guilty by association. Maybe a few too many large isk transfers between you and ya RMT ALT/Friend. Either way you deserved it and you'll get no tears. Because there are no "innocent" RMT'ers.

If you weren't botting/RMTing/etc. Shame you got caught up in the mix of your fellow players. If you're guilty which is very likely. Good and hope you get das boot again.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#26 - 2011-09-27 06:42:21 UTC
Kogh Ayon wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
This is like the hundredth thread of this nature that we've seen, is what I'm saying. And they almost all ended the same way: An ISK buyer running off after exposing himself as one in public.

Still, by all means feel free to post your full API, so that you can be publicly audited by the players you're (I assume) asking to support you. Give us the evidence and you'll get our support. Weasel out of it, and we can skip straight to the lulz.

Your call, really.

If you think that I were a RMTer, feel free to file a petition.

There are dozens real botter/rmters in those level 4 mission hubs, that didn't see much people go report them(I'm the one who keep hunting the bots), but only these timid guys like you can only post some weak/harmless replies on the forum.

baltec1 wrote:
I do wonder what these innocent people manage to do that gets them banned for botting.


You don't need to petition if you were banned for botting. lol


Create a full API for your account(s) and let us audit it(them). Otherwise all we've got is your unsupported assertion on a subject that is, given the past history of these affairs, highly likely to be untruthful.

Post full API(s): possibly innocent
Don't post full APIs: guilty

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#27 - 2011-09-27 06:43:53 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
Kogh Ayon wrote:
The Apostle wrote:

You do know that getting "unbanned" is not being exonerated, it just means there wasn't enough to prove it without doubt. I bet if your name comes up again (with whatever it was) you will be gone. Permanentl..


In you country the court will probably sentence people when they do not have enough evidence that you can come with such logic. I bet you live in somewhere like the north korea.

The Apostle wrote:

And I take exception to the fact that you did NOT explain WHERE you are able to quote ban/unban figures! HOW did you come by such figures if you're "not associated"?

Do you know that some kids broke 3 windows in the bus station besides your home?
Sure?
Congratulations! you are "associated".


Firstly, I live in Australia. Our laws are actually more liberal than say the US.

North Korea. Indeed. Shocked

But you're arguing that you/your mates susequent "unbanning" proves CCP made a "mistake". No. What it does do is prove that CCP is being fair and giving you potentially "a second chance".



Or it could just mean that they got a temporary ban, which I understand is normal policy for a "first offence".

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Ezurae
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2011-09-27 07:16:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ezurae
Malcanis wrote:
Kogh Ayon wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
This is like the hundredth thread of this nature that we've seen, is what I'm saying. And they almost all ended the same way: An ISK buyer running off after exposing himself as one in public.

Still, by all means feel free to post your full API, so that you can be publicly audited by the players you're (I assume) asking to support you. Give us the evidence and you'll get our support. Weasel out of it, and we can skip straight to the lulz.

Your call, really.

If you think that I were a RMTer, feel free to file a petition.

There are dozens real botter/rmters in those level 4 mission hubs, that didn't see much people go report them(I'm the one who keep hunting the bots), but only these timid guys like you can only post some weak/harmless replies on the forum.

baltec1 wrote:
I do wonder what these innocent people manage to do that gets them banned for botting.


You don't need to petition if you were banned for botting. lol


Create a full API for your account(s) and let us audit it(them). Otherwise all we've got is your unsupported assertion on a subject that is, given the past history of these affairs, highly likely to be untruthful.

Post full API(s): possibly innocent
Don't post full APIs: guilty


THIS.
now post your full api or quit whining you damn RMTer. Seriously how can you have the nerve to RMT, then petition you never would have, get unbanned and then even ******* complain. If you were innocent you would have no problem giving your full api here. I dont know maybe you thought this thread would make you look "more innocent" so you could maybe try RMT again but be assured you just achieved the opposit...
Enough reasons were mentioned why its pretty obvious just from your posts that you are an RMTer and closely related to lots of them.


edit: reading your past posts it does not surprise me you got investigated and banned. but i do regret that you got unbanned since you are so obviously an RMTer. may i quote you "Sponsor: ECF (Elite Chinese Farmers) and RMT (Russian Macro Team)"
"I'm actually trying to introduce a new way to think about RMT/Botting." Source: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1503254/page/1
I think you argued for RMTing back in April because you were thinking about RMTing some stuff. Well the opinion on RMTing didnt change (i dont get how you could think it would change that fast or even change at all) and after a while you just thought, "a cmon screw it i will just try/risk it." and BAM banhammer struck, you did some whining and now we are back to you trying to change the opinion on RMTing so you can RMT again....

well maybe i'm wrong, if i am you can easily prove that by posting your full api key
Gregor Palter
#29 - 2011-09-27 07:45:14 UTC
Ezurae wrote:
edit: reading your past posts it does not surprise me you got investigated and banned. but i do regret that you got unbanned since you are so obviously an RMTer. may i quote you "Sponsor: ECF (Elite Chinese Farmers) and RMT (Russian Macro Team)"
"I'm actually trying to introduce a new way to think about RMT/Botting." Source: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1503254/page/1


Good find!

OP, you just shot yourself in the foot. CCP please, reban this idiot.

Excuses are the refuge of the weak.

Kogh Ayon
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2011-09-27 08:55:56 UTC
If you are so sure that I'm a rmter, why not just file a petition?


Seems you trust the full api more than than CCP's investigation. The same with me.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2011-09-27 09:02:38 UTC
Kogh Ayon wrote:
If you are so sure that I'm a rmter, why not just file a petition?


Seems you trust the full api more than than CCP's investigation. The same with me.




since we can't ask CCP to make a full disclosure on your case, yes. we trust the full API more than CCP's investigation.


so, provide full API.

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Kogh Ayon
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2011-09-27 09:15:44 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Kogh Ayon wrote:
If you are so sure that I'm a rmter, why not just file a petition?


Seems you trust the full api more than than CCP's investigation. The same with me.




since we can't ask CCP to make a full disclosure on your case, yes. we trust the full API more than CCP's investigation.


so, provide full API.



What I need here is simply a statement that you trust the full API more than the CCP's investigation.
Thanks for your support.Lol
Ezurae
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2011-09-27 09:33:17 UTC
Kogh Ayon wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
Kogh Ayon wrote:
If you are so sure that I'm a rmter, why not just file a petition?


Seems you trust the full api more than than CCP's investigation. The same with me.




since we can't ask CCP to make a full disclosure on your case, yes. we trust the full API more than CCP's investigation.


so, provide full API.



What I need here is simply a statement that you trust the full API more than the CCP's investigation.
Thanks for your support.Lol

your trolling just proves everyone right ^^
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#34 - 2011-09-27 09:39:49 UTC
Now if any of this information would be verifiable, it would be worth a thread.

Until then: Troll4U

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-09-27 09:42:08 UTC
Kogh Ayon wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
Kogh Ayon wrote:
If you are so sure that I'm a rmter, why not just file a petition?


Seems you trust the full api more than than CCP's investigation. The same with me.




since we can't ask CCP to make a full disclosure on your case, yes. we trust the full API more than CCP's investigation.


so, provide full API.



What I need here is simply a statement that you trust the full API more than the CCP's investigation.
Thanks for your support.Lol



since CCP can't, and rightly so, disclose the results of their investigation, the only verifiable tool we can request from you is your full API.

thank you for your support.

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Gregor Palter
#36 - 2011-09-27 11:43:50 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
since CCP can't, and rightly so, disclose the results of their investigation, the only verifiable tool we can request from you is your full API.

thank you for your support.


Who says that the account he's talking about is the API we'd get. Apart from that, he can ask CCP to fully disclose info about the investigation here on the forum. I'm sure you remember that precedent. Don't get caught in his lies and trolling :)

Excuses are the refuge of the weak.

Apollo-Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2011-09-27 11:49:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Apollo-Moor
Gregor Palter wrote:
Ezurae wrote:
edit: reading your past posts it does not surprise me you got investigated and banned. but i do regret that you got unbanned since you are so obviously an RMTer. may i quote you "Sponsor: ECF (Elite Chinese Farmers) and RMT (Russian Macro Team)"
"I'm actually trying to introduce a new way to think about RMT/Botting." Source: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1503254/page/1


Good find!

OP, you just shot yourself in the foot. CCP please, reban this idiot.


Damn dawg you've been exposed LmAo. You are such a pussy to come on here and really seek some type of sympathy from the playerbase. Don't insult our intellegence EvE players are not stupid if you haven't figured it out yet. There's just way too much analytical thinking and number crunching to be the average Gun-ho Joe Spaceship Pilot

Now it is confirmed that you are most likely a RMT'er that got caught.. You deserve another ban for coming on here to deny your confirmed guilt. Obviously a lesson has not been learned yet. Das Ban Him!

You could've come on here to apologize and admit to your RMT'ing. You'd probably still be attacked but at least you wouldve showed you learned a lesson.
Gregor Palter
#38 - 2011-09-27 11:55:38 UTC
Apollo-Moor wrote:
Don't insult our intellegence


Even after the edit.

/facepalm

Excuses are the refuge of the weak.

Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2011-09-27 16:51:17 UTC
Gregor Palter wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
since CCP can't, and rightly so, disclose the results of their investigation, the only verifiable tool we can request from you is your full API.

thank you for your support.


Who says that the account he's talking about is the API we'd get. Apart from that, he can ask CCP to fully disclose info about the investigation here on the forum. I'm sure you remember that precedent. Don't get caught in his lies and trolling :)

you're quite right there. forgot about thatP

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Louise Ferrigno
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2011-09-27 17:16:28 UTC
stop buying isk
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