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Why the new Stealth-bombers are CCP's best designed ships so far (IMHO).
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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#41 - 2012-04-05 16:07:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Karl Hobb
Tobiaz wrote:
The old Maulus-Helios or the Imicus-Helios?

Considering I'm only a year old, which do you think? Big smile

I doubt CCP would go back to the Maulus look; you should see their "I'm taking a ****" mock-ups for a new Helios...

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
killorbekilled TBE
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-04-05 16:10:58 UTC
i hope the team behind the new models of ships including the maller re do all the other ships (that need redoing of course)

:)
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#43 - 2012-04-05 16:15:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobiaz
Karl Hobb wrote:
Tobiaz wrote:
The old Maulus-Helios or the Imicus-Helios?

Considering I'm only a year old, which do you think? Big smile

I doubt CCP would go back to the Maulus look; you should see their "I'm taking a ****" mock-ups for a new Helios...


I've seen most of the feed from fanfest, but I can't remember seeing much of the new stuff. What part is it from?


edit: NM I found it. That new Imicus is HORRIBLE!!!! WFT is CCP smoking there?

http://imgur.com/a/KFuhX#7

They should just at least keep the slanted design! Jeez! It's like someone at CCP declared a crusade against everything asymmetrical.

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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#44 - 2012-04-05 16:17:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Karl Hobb
Tobiaz wrote:
I've seen most of the feed from fanfest, but I can't remember seeing much of the new stuff. What part is it from?

There's a picture floating around somewhere of an Imicus hull with two "legs". It's pretty disturbing.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#45 - 2012-04-05 16:21:37 UTC
Orator de Umbras wrote:
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
If you look at the manticore preview it has a tiny person that looks like a speck for scale on the left side. I think they have plenty of space to work with within even a frigate whenever they get to their future vision.


Yeah, I've seen even the early WiS videos that demonstrate the humongous scale between even a cruiser and your avatar, but I think it still warrants consideration.

You don't just need room inside the ship to design interiors, but you have to match what is seen outside, with what is inside.

If the 3D ship model / texture, has a 3 story high window, you should have a 3 story high window on the inside as well.

Get my point?

Rashmika Clavain wrote:
I was wondering if they'd redesign the Stealth Bomber to take into account launcher turrets.


One of their presentations showed the bomb launcher "turret" always being mounted on the underside of the bomber, so I'm sure they are taking that into account.


Interesting.

Well, if the bomb launcher is always going to be mounted on the bottom of the hull then the Nemesis will certainly look.... happy to be there.

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Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-04-05 16:24:03 UTC
I agree with OP.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#47 - 2012-04-05 16:25:35 UTC
Selinate
#48 - 2012-04-05 16:36:20 UTC
Don't stop here, a sizable portion of the ships still need complete redesign in order to not look like a malignant tumor...
Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#49 - 2012-04-05 20:53:29 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
The Caldari ship is great but far too symetrical. I prefer the asymetric and almost semi-modular designs like the raven moa kestrel blackbird and condor. Caldari and Minmatarr should be largely asymmetrical.


Hell No... I am tried of asymmetrical ships that look like a 3 year old was playing with some Legos.
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
#50 - 2012-04-05 20:54:56 UTC
Wow the amarr SB looks like a ******* grub now...
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-04-05 21:02:22 UTC
Yeah I have to agree that ships look better with the purpose behind them designed in. Kinda like an A-10 was a planet built around the gun; not the other way around.

More ships designed/redesigned with their role might not be such a bad thing. (Especially cruisers)
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#52 - 2012-04-05 21:04:57 UTC
supersexysucker wrote:
Wow the amarr SB looks like a ******* grub now...


In Amarr space, the grubs turn over rocks to look for YOU.

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-04-05 21:12:07 UTC
My favorite thing is that they are doing something never done before on their ships, especially since the ability to choose turret location. That is the bomb launcher. They showed how the bomb launcher has a very specific bomb location, and it will only show there. The underbelly of course of the hull. This is a very cool idea and hope to see it implemented more with specialty equipment.

Now the other point brought up is how the new models look on the ships. I do have to call out on the prophecy hull with launchers, ie the damnation. The big and boxy launchers look terrible in the demo video on the wingtips like that. Hopefully the gunpoints get moved with V3, or some other styling changes on the damnation specific so they don't look so bad.

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Hesidak Uroboroon
Doomheim
#54 - 2012-04-05 21:33:02 UTC
I honestly think that almost all ships need a redesign. some like the megathron, hyperion, scorpion, maller, talos and other pretty ones should get minor tweaks to make them more centered around the weapons. Then there's the moa, apocalypse, typhoon, cyclone, incursus and many many others that just need to be scrapped and started over.

The U.S. Navy has developed a railgun that can hit a target the size of a watermelon from about 200km away.  its probably around 8,000 years in the future, we can go faster then light, be immortal, teleport capital ships, communicate instantly, mine asteroids and make ships invisible,yet still our railguns can't even hit a massive spaceship over 100km....
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#55 - 2012-04-05 21:37:05 UTC
Hesidak Uroboroon wrote:
I honestly think that almost all ships need a redesign. some like the megathron, hyperion, scorpion, maller, talos and other pretty ones should get minor tweaks to make them more centered around the weapons. Then there's the moa, apocalypse, typhoon, cyclone, incursus and many many others that just need to be scrapped and started over.


Scorpion is just fine. specially when its weapon system is ecm and a bunch of antennas. What should be changed is the Rattlesnake. That should have a unique hull.
Hesidak Uroboroon
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-04-05 21:38:04 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Hesidak Uroboroon wrote:
I honestly think that almost all ships need a redesign. some like the megathron, hyperion, scorpion, maller, talos and other pretty ones should get minor tweaks to make them more centered around the weapons. Then there's the moa, apocalypse, typhoon, cyclone, incursus and many many others that just need to be scrapped and started over.


Scorpion is just fine. specially when its weapon system is ecm and a bunch of antennas. What should be changed is the Rattlesnake. That should have a unique hull.


agreed, and i cant stand how the blood raider frig and cruiser are original but the bs is a geddon hull

The U.S. Navy has developed a railgun that can hit a target the size of a watermelon from about 200km away.  its probably around 8,000 years in the future, we can go faster then light, be immortal, teleport capital ships, communicate instantly, mine asteroids and make ships invisible,yet still our railguns can't even hit a massive spaceship over 100km....
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#57 - 2012-04-05 21:39:05 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Hesidak Uroboroon wrote:
I honestly think that almost all ships need a redesign. some like the megathron, hyperion, scorpion, maller, talos and other pretty ones should get minor tweaks to make them more centered around the weapons. Then there's the moa, apocalypse, typhoon, cyclone, incursus and many many others that just need to be scrapped and started over.


Scorpion is just fine. specially when its weapon system is ecm and a bunch of antennas. What should be changed is the Rattlesnake. That should have a unique hull.


Yes, pirate hulls should emphasis weapon placement, Navy hulls should look thicker and more resilient.

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Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-04-05 21:49:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzzmong
Best designed so far?

That honour goes to the old Helios model, aka, the Creodron Maulus.

Look at it!

Phwoar!

*Does a Vic Reeves and rubs thighs*
Oberine Noriepa
#59 - 2012-04-05 21:50:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Oberine Noriepa
I hope this means Heavy Assault Cruisers will get redesigned in the same fashion. It would be nice if the Ishtar received a Nemesis-grade equivalent upgrade for its design.

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Hesidak Uroboroon
Doomheim
#60 - 2012-04-05 21:50:54 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Hesidak Uroboroon wrote:
I honestly think that almost all ships need a redesign. some like the megathron, hyperion, scorpion, maller, talos and other pretty ones should get minor tweaks to make them more centered around the weapons. Then there's the moa, apocalypse, typhoon, cyclone, incursus and many many others that just need to be scrapped and started over.


Scorpion is just fine. specially when its weapon system is ecm and a bunch of antennas. What should be changed is the Rattlesnake. That should have a unique hull.


Yes, pirate hulls should emphasis weapon placement, Navy hulls should look thicker and more resilient.


Yes, pirate hulls should have a more aggressive, strange and almost alien appearence, like the angel ships

The U.S. Navy has developed a railgun that can hit a target the size of a watermelon from about 200km away.  its probably around 8,000 years in the future, we can go faster then light, be immortal, teleport capital ships, communicate instantly, mine asteroids and make ships invisible,yet still our railguns can't even hit a massive spaceship over 100km....