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helcat being nerfed, please explain?
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leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-05 16:03:04 UTC
I've seen a few posts recently about hellcat fleets being nerfed, could someone explain where this idea came from? I think I've missed something in all the recent changes being proposed by CCP.
could someone link to what they are talking about, or give a quick summary of what's happening?
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-04-05 16:05:00 UTC
By making the economy better we get poorer thus making it harder to field bs gangs that nullsec pvp depends on such as hellcats because they are suddenly not economically feasable.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#3 - 2012-04-05 16:06:32 UTC
Afaik it's just a couple of idiots whining about coming isk faucet adjustments. The ships/fleetconcept wont be nerfed.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-04-05 16:07:09 UTC
well by that theory alpha fleet is being nerfed, and so is any fleet composed of T3s. I wouldn't say they are "stealth nerfing" anything, they are just fixing the economy.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-04-05 16:07:40 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Afaik it's just a couple of idiots whining about coming isk faucet adjustments. The ships/fleetconcept wont be nerfed.


Yes they will because they are too expensive to field.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#6 - 2012-04-05 16:09:25 UTC
pff maybe for commoners such as yourselves, us rich folk dont worry about that sort of thing

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Avila Cracko
#7 - 2012-04-05 16:10:47 UTC
please please please CCP.
Before someone can subscribe for this game, can you please give him IQ test???
please... Roll

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Onchas
EL Bernays School of Strategic Communication
#8 - 2012-04-05 16:13:33 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Afaik it's just a couple of idiots whining about coming isk faucet adjustments. The ships/fleetconcept wont be nerfed.


Yes they will because they are too expensive to field.


Tech 2 fit battleship fleets have been standard fleets since 2006. If any 0.0 alliance is finding them too expensive to field, they should take that as a hint that their alliance leadership is either incompetent or pocketing the alliance wallet.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#9 - 2012-04-05 16:14:52 UTC
Stop believing what you read on the forums, especially if its one of supernerdguy's threads.

In fact, a healthy distrust of the internet as a whole would be good to develop. Learn to find facts and make your own judgements.

Also, stop making new threads about a topic already being discussed. If you saw threads about hellcats, post in those threads. A new thread of your very own isn't going to get you any better answers than posting in the existing tripe-heap. It just serves to perpetuate the confusion amongst people like yourself who casually browse topics and read a line or two here and there.

Of course, if said confusion is your goal, then carry on :)

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leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-04-05 16:21:59 UTC
I hadn't seen any threads about it, I just saw (I'm guessing masternerdguy) posting single posts of "save the hellcats" and I didn't want to derail the threads.
as to doing my own research, I did a little but couldn't find anything about those fits getting nerfed, so I was curious. turns out they are just being nerfed to the stupid.
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-04-05 16:22:57 UTC
For the uninitiated, such as I, what is a Hellcat fleet? I gather it's T2 fit battleships. But which ships? Minmatar / 1400 / Scimi fleet? What's the composition of such a fleet?

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#12 - 2012-04-05 16:26:35 UTC
Ila Dace wrote:
For the uninitiated, such as I, what is a Hellcat fleet? I gather it's T2 fit battleships. But which ships? Minmatar / 1400 / Scimi fleet? What's the composition of such a fleet?

From what I understand it is a high-DPS, high-resists, med range (50-100 km) armor battleship fleet (commonly Abaddons) with Guardian support meant to pile on damage quickly and effectively. A counter to Drake blobs, I believe.

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leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-04-05 16:29:21 UTC
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#14 - 2012-04-05 16:49:06 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Due to the large amount of low-end minerals being supplied by the drone regions (mineral drops soon to be removed by ccp), the recent political instability of the drone regions, and the mass banning of (mining) bots (probably including some drone region botters), mineral prices are increasing.

Higher mineral prices --> everything gets more expensive-->everyone has less purchasing power with their isk-->fewer BS fleets.

That's the theory anyway. Realistically, most alliances that field or can field hellcat fleets have enough income to not give a ****.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-04-05 17:00:47 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Afaik it's just a couple of idiots whining about coming isk faucet adjustments. The ships/fleetconcept wont be nerfed.


Yes they will because they are too expensive to field.




Nullsec here, confirming that BS fleets are still viable and remaining so even with rising prices.


Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Indeterminacy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-04-05 17:01:16 UTC
leviticus ander wrote:
I've seen a few posts recently about hellcat fleets being nerfed...


Great reason to start another then. :facepalm:
leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-04-05 17:06:51 UTC
Indeterminacy wrote:
leviticus ander wrote:
I've seen a few posts recently about hellcat fleets being nerfed...


Great reason to start another then. :facepalm:

as I said, posts, not threads.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-04-05 17:41:02 UTC
masternerdtroll thinks they will be too expensive, which they won't... its not a nerd tbh.
in reality it will only be 10-50% more isk for the ship. but with less isk in the game, its also feasible that mineral prices will stabilize lower then they are now.
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-04-05 17:43:01 UTC
Thank you for the information.

If your opponent has a decent fleet, it would seem to me to be more expensive in the long run not to field something like Hellcat fleets, even if the initial investment is higher. Losing is almost always more costly.

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-04-05 17:45:55 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
masternerdtroll thinks they will be too expensive, which they won't... its not a nerd tbh.
in reality it will only be 10-50% more isk for the ship. but with less isk in the game, its also feasible that mineral prices will stabilize lower then they are now.



Why are you singling me out on this issue?

Things are only impossible until they are not.
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