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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4081 - 2012-04-05 07:08:48 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
CCP RedDawn wrote:
Hi all,

This is just a small update to say that we (Team Avatar) are still monitoring this thread for WiS feedback, and we are not just a "PR" stunt. :) Those of you who attended the Avatar round table at Fanfest got a small glimpse of one of the WiS gameplay prototypes that we are working on. So we are progressing.

As for other implementations that we are working on, Tattoo's, NeX items, etc, these are all mid-progress work that we have the opportunity to finalise and get out to you, but these are not our main priority.

You also know that CCP Karkur on Team Avatar is also working on constantly improving the UI experience via small, but highly useful changes. I would also like to point out that she also works on her weekends to incorporate as many of these as she can, and also work on the character creator as well as she is very passionate about it, so yes the team is doing other things as well, but our ultimate focus is most definitely on WiS gameplay.

Finally, as this post has somehow turned into a mini novel, we want WiS to work as much as most of the people in this thread and have collated a ton of ideas from here and Fanfest.
But lets all be realistic and honest, it's not going to appear overnight as we are a small team, but saying that, there will be enough new FiS content to almost make a bittervet smile coming your way as well, so you should have plenty to so in the interim.

PS: Fanfest was great and I hope to meet more of you next year, although the round table was a little too early after the dev pub crawl the night before.

Fly reckless till then.
CCP RedDawn.


CCP RedDawn,

Thank you for taking the time to post the update. It's always good to hear this thread is still being watched. Guess that explains all the stealth clean ups that have been happening.

Roll

Anyway, I'm sure all members of Team Avatar are very busy working hard to produce WiS content that will most certainly amaze and astound us all. As was stated before, commitment to excellence is indeed very much appreciated and wanted. However, please don't be too overly critical of any existing content created thus far as that usually results in time and work being scrapped and starting all over again, probably much to the dismay of everyone involved. It definitely can't be good for moral either.

On that note, don't be hesitant or afraid to release WiS game play content in small amounts. It doesn't have to be a full blown major Expansion / Patch. We know this is your baby but remember, a new born will crawl first, then walk before running. Starting small and releasing it as a Beta should be much easier to test as well as work out any problems that may arise.

Since this thread is being monitored, please don't hesitate to jump in and add a comment or two when you see an idea that may have potential. A little more involvement by Team Avatar from time to time in this thread as well as the sticky thread in Features & Ideas sub-forum would go a long way to help alleviate some doubts and anxiety expressed by the community.

In the meantime, please excuse us all for being impatient, cynical, apprehensive and frustrated. It may not be warranted at this time but it should be expected due to our overwhelming anticipation. I know it's no excuse but we're actually very excited and overly enthusiastic to see this long awaited content become a reality.

Don't get discouraged by our actions, we understand there are many shades of color involved even though we tend to express ourselves in terms of Black And White. We eagerly await and look forward to the day when Team Avatar and CCP turns Eve Online into a true Science Fiction Virtual Reality. Of course we'd prefer it to be sooner than later but when it does finally happen, that will be the day when Everyone's A Winner.

DMC

Cool

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#4082 - 2012-04-05 09:12:04 UTC
CCP RedDawn wrote:
Hi all,

This is just a small update to say that we (Team Avatar) are still monitoring this thread for WiS feedback, and we are not just a "PR" stunt. :) Those of you who attended the Avatar round table at Fanfest got a small glimpse of one of the WiS gameplay prototypes that we are working on. So we are progressing.

CCP RedDawn.


Anyone have a video of that round table?

- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4083 - 2012-04-05 14:07:42 UTC
tldr wis isUgh it should beCool open the door +more sex appeal + cyber punk flavor wis shold = exploration of really big dark scary stations with some team based puzzle action and some combat that will net you some implant / rig /dust merc gear /wis gear bpos and npc taggs for nice profitssss iterate on hacking and analyzing via wis

firstly where the hell are are the other colored versions of the clothing i have asked many times in the help chanel for this info and spoke to isd members in the help chan who basically told me to stfu or stay on topic i mean i thought that the help chan was for help related topics like where do i find item

but srsly i see the diferent coloerd clothes in the market tree but not in the nex store what gives i would like some black and gold outfits please maby a littel variation so we dont all look the sam

also WTH ever hapend to the sexy latex jump suit from the old incarna demo vids MMMMMMMM LATEX HAWTNESS!!! i would like an option for extra camel toe plz cause it would be nice to have sompthing to fap to while on a 48 jump trip in an orca

srsly we need some more sexy options for the ladies outfits this was looking good! and wtf did all the bad ass armor plating go from or old avitars now we all look tike some gay ass jcpenny catologe models i thot this was frikin outer space scifi future shite i want bad assedness for the space bros and sluty gear for the space hoes (no disrepect ladies i olny refer to you as hoes cause i dont know each of your names idvidualy) i wold like some miniskirts for teh chicks pl

implants? srsly ccp the best you could come up with was the ghey ass monocel ??? LAME !! ccp droped the ball yet again!

what hapend to the cyber punk feel i came to eve for realy REALY!!!!! WTF right befor incarna came out i saw this bad ass pod pilot and a shat my pants i was excited for incarna and WIS why WHY do i always get excited when i see shiny stuff from ccp then get let dow

insted we got some matrix plugs that i cant even see ...way to rip them off !!! and now we have col. sanders and cpt.prickhard flying in space ships. no really i know every ones thinking the same thing but i just trying to scream it out right now please ccp we need moar cyber punk / cow bel

oh i also wanted to say somthing about the prices of your items in the nex store but i would want a riot to break out in jita or any thing but if there was im sure you would fix them or not

but insted of this we get sleeve tats YEAH ....not

art department and character design department need to get together with the dood who painted the capsuleer idealized pic and i don't know actually create something instead of just giving us pixel dolls to put clothes on give it some flavor

in terms of game play the first thing you need to do is open that dam door but yes your new future vision trailer at fanfest was very cool i too would like to walk in sleeper structures maybe take something like say new blueprints for dust mercs weaponry and armor and vehicles and we go in to fraction stations and steal the bpo by using our hacking and analyzing skills im not say ng take hacking and analyzing out of space im saying iterate on it and add ito i wis also u could do this with rig or implant bpos small stuff like that also i wonder is there a plan fo a fps aspect or some kind of combat system if so you could do someting like a survival style game play where one your in the enemy station u have to go through it with your exploration team or die and lose yor clone / implants / wis gear ofc you can always go back and pickit up it would bee neat to go back and see my own corpse there i think it would be uber cool if this is where bpos came from and it wold have to be vast areas to explore basicly dungeon style play look for chest open chest find bpo get out alive then profi

also i don't really want to name a specific game but i have been playing deus ex lately and the whole cybernetic augmentation thing could and some nice flavor to Wis in terms of game play and character designee wis really needs more flavor cause right now it tastes like space cake thats been cryofroze for a millennia and i need some milk to wash it downUgh

sry for wall of text / rant please dont ban me lol
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#4084 - 2012-04-05 14:24:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
Dex Tera wrote:
Thing You Need To Do Is Open That Dam Door But Yes Your New Future Vision Trailer At Fanfest Was Very Cool I Too Would Like To Walk In Sleeper Structures Maybe Take Something Like Say New Blueprints For Dust Mercs Weaponry And Armor And Vehicles And We Go In To Fraction Stations And Steal The Bpo By Using Our Hacking And Analyzing Skills Im Not Say Ng Take Hacking And Analyzing Out Of Space Im Saying Iterate On It And Add Ito I Wis Also U Could Do This With Rig Or Implant Bpos Small Stuff Like That Also I Wonder Is There A Plan Fo A Fps Aspect Or Some Kind Of Combat System If So You Could Do Someting Like A Survival Style Game Play Where One Your In The Enemy Station U Have To Go Through It With Your Exploration Team Or Die And Lose Yor Clone / Implants / Wis Gear Not Srsly We Need Some More Sexy Options For The Ladies Outfits This Was Looking Good! And Wtf Did All The Bad Ass Armor Plating Go From Or Old Avitars Now We All Look Tike Some Gay Ass Jcpenny Catologe Models I Thot This Was Frikin Outer Space Scifi Future Shite I Want Bad Assedness For The Space Bros And Sluty Gear For The Space Hoes (no Disrepect Ladies I Olny Refer To You As Hoes Cause I Dont Know Each Of Your Names Idvidualy) I Wold Like Some Miniskirts For Teh Chicks Pl Sry For Wall Of Text / Rant Please Dont Ban Me Lol Tldr Wis Isugh It Should Becool Open The Door +more Sex Appeal + Cyber Punk Flavor Wis Shold = Exploration Of Really Big Dark Scary Stations With Some Team Based Puzzle Action And Some Combat That Will Net You Some Implant / Rig /dust Merc Gear /wis Gear Bpos And Npc Taggs For Nice Profitssss Iterate On Hacking And Analyzing Via Wis What Hapend To The Cyber Punk Feel I Came To Eve For Realy Realy!!!!! Wtf Right Befor Incarna Came Out I Saw This Bad Ass Pod Pilot And A Shat My Pants I Was Excited For Incarna And Wis Why Why Do I Always Get Excited When I See Shiny Stuff From Ccp Then Get Let Dow also Wth Ever Hapend To The Sexy Latex Jump Suit From The Old Incarna Demo Vids Mmmmmmmm Latex Hawtness!!! I Would Like An Option For Extra Camel Toe Plz Cause It Would Be Nice To Have Sompthing To Fap To While On A 48 Jump Trip In An Orca Also I Don't Really Want To Name A Specific Game But I Have Been Playing Deus Ex Lately And The Whole Cybernetic Augmentation Thing Could And Some Nice Flavor To Wis In Terms Of Game Play And Character Designee Wis Really Needs More Flavor Cause Right Now It Tastes Like Space Cake Thats Been Cryofroze For A Millennia And I Need Some Milk To Wash It Downugh Art Department And Character Design Department Need To Get Together With The Dood Who Painted The Capsuleer Idealized Pic And I Don't Know Actually Create Something Instead Of Just Giving Us Many Times In The Help Chanel For This Info And Spoke To Isd Members In The Help Chan Who Basically Told Me To Stfu Or Stay On Topic I Mean I Thought That The Help Chan Was For Help Related Topics Like Where Do I Find Item Implants? Srsly Ccp The Best You Could Come Up With Was The Ghey Ass Monocel ??? Lame !! Ccp Droped The Ball Yet Again! In Terms Of Game Play The First Ofc You Can Always Go Back And Pickit Up It Would Bee Neat To Go Back And See My Own Corpse There I Think It Would Be Uber Cool If This Is Where Bpos Came From And It Wold Have To Be Vast Areas To Explore Basicly Dungeon Style Play Look For Chest Open Chest Find Bpo Get Out Alive Then Profi Insted We Got Some Matrix Plugs That I Cant Even See ...way To Rip Them Off !!! And Now We Have Col. Sanders And Cpt.prickhard Flying In Space Ships. No Really I Know Every Ones Thinking The Same Thing But I Just Trying To Scream It Out Right Now Please Ccp We Need Moar Cyber Punk / Cow Bel Oh I Also Wanted To Say Somthing About The Prices Of Your Items In The Nex Store But I Would Want A Riot To Break Out In Jita Or Any Thing But If There Was Im Sure You Would Fix Them Or Pixel Dolls To Put Clothes On Give It Some Flavor But Insted Of This We Get Sleeve Tats Yeah ....not But Srsly I See The Diferent Coloerd Clothes In The Market Tree But Not In The Nex Store What Gives I Would Like Some Black And Gold Outfits Please Maby A Littel Variation So We Dont All Look The Sam Firstly Where The Hell Are Are The Other Colored Versions Of The Clothing I Have Asked


FYP - I added some capitalization and worked on the structure to make it easier to read.

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Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4085 - 2012-04-05 14:32:25 UTC
go jump in a biomass reprocessor
Orator de Umbras
Doomheim
#4086 - 2012-04-05 14:54:58 UTC
Give me liberty (from my pod), or give me death.

*self-destructs pod*

I can do this all night. . . what's it gonna be CCP?


To CCP:

People are not going to like it at first, but it will be a necessary step to make WiS meaningful.

You NEED to move things out of the globally accessible UI and into 3D space as an interactive object.

- If I need to use the market, I should have to walk into station and find a market interface.
- If I need to update my clone, I should have to walk into the station's medical facility to do so.
- If I need to start / stop an industry job, I should have to go to the station's laboratory / factory.
- For agents, you should have to find the agent within the station to get their "phone number" before you can contact them.
- Corporate administration should be done in the corporation's office. (Some things you could do outside the office, but some you shouldn't.)

Some of these things can become skill-dependent, or rely on new agent functionality. Example:

- Broker Agents: If I have access to a broker agent, they will provide a market interface for me to order things. (Give a face to the "Broker's Fee".
- R&D Agents: They'll do data core research like they do now, but will also allow me to remotely manage jobs in their respective stations.

Anyway, just a few small ideas / suggestions.
RAP ACTION HERO
#4087 - 2012-04-05 15:40:02 UTC
Orator de Umbras wrote:
Give me liberty (from my pod), or give me death.

*self-destructs pod*

I can do this all night. . . what's it gonna be CCP?


To CCP:

People are not going to like it at first, but it will be a necessary step to make WiS meaningful.

You NEED to move things out of the globally accessible UI and into 3D space as an interactive object.

- If I need to use the market, I should have to walk into station and find a market interface.
- If I need to update my clone, I should have to walk into the station's medical facility to do so.
- If I need to start / stop an industry job, I should have to go to the station's laboratory / factory.
- For agents, you should have to find the agent within the station to get their "phone number" before you can contact them.
- Corporate administration should be done in the corporation's office. (Some things you could do outside the office, but some you shouldn't.)

Some of these things can become skill-dependent, or rely on new agent functionality. Example:

- Broker Agents: If I have access to a broker agent, they will provide a market interface for me to order things. (Give a face to the "Broker's Fee".
- R&D Agents: They'll do data core research like they do now, but will also allow me to remotely manage jobs in their respective stations.

Anyway, just a few small ideas / suggestions.




This just pisses ppl off, hardly meaningful, doing the same thing but now forced to w-a-s-d really slowly.

vitoc erryday
Avila Cracko
#4088 - 2012-04-05 15:53:08 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
Orator de Umbras wrote:
Give me liberty (from my pod), or give me death.

*self-destructs pod*

I can do this all night. . . what's it gonna be CCP?


To CCP:

People are not going to like it at first, but it will be a necessary step to make WiS meaningful.

You NEED to move things out of the globally accessible UI and into 3D space as an interactive object.

- If I need to use the market, I should have to walk into station and find a market interface.
- If I need to update my clone, I should have to walk into the station's medical facility to do so.
- If I need to start / stop an industry job, I should have to go to the station's laboratory / factory.
- For agents, you should have to find the agent within the station to get their "phone number" before you can contact them.
- Corporate administration should be done in the corporation's office. (Some things you could do outside the office, but some you shouldn't.)

Some of these things can become skill-dependent, or rely on new agent functionality. Example:

- Broker Agents: If I have access to a broker agent, they will provide a market interface for me to order things. (Give a face to the "Broker's Fee".
- R&D Agents: They'll do data core research like they do now, but will also allow me to remotely manage jobs in their respective stations.

Anyway, just a few small ideas / suggestions.




This just pisses ppl off, hardly meaningful, doing the same thing but now forced to w-a-s-d really slowly.


Whats is meaningful to you, is role play to others.
Why games that have that system of navigation have more players than EVE?
people like to fell their character - live through it.
and you cant fell anything in clicking the same buttons that are always in the same place on the screen on the same ugly bar.

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Avila Cracko
#4089 - 2012-04-05 15:53:47 UTC
Severian Carnifex wrote:


Wis threads that are always on the first couple of pages (now on first page):

- CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS! ------------------------------------------------- (204 pages)
- Rate the Avatar above you ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- (174 pages)
- What would you say if you woke up to the Avatar above you in your bed? --- (106 pages)
- What is the avatar above you thinking? --------------------------------------------------------- (76 pages)


And you say there is no gameplay in social interaction and roleplaying??? RollRollRoll
You are saying that social interaction and roleplaying is not important??? RollRollRoll
You are telling us that WiS is not important??? RollRollRoll



Signed!!!

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Richard Aiel
The Merchants of War
#4090 - 2012-04-05 16:01:28 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
Orator de Umbras wrote:
Give me liberty (from my pod), or give me death.

*self-destructs pod*

I can do this all night. . . what's it gonna be CCP?


To CCP:

People are not going to like it at first, but it will be a necessary step to make WiS meaningful.

You NEED to move things out of the globally accessible UI and into 3D space as an interactive object.

- If I need to use the market, I should have to walk into station and find a market interface.
- If I need to update my clone, I should have to walk into the station's medical facility to do so.
- If I need to start / stop an industry job, I should have to go to the station's laboratory / factory.
- For agents, you should have to find the agent within the station to get their "phone number" before you can contact them.
- Corporate administration should be done in the corporation's office. (Some things you could do outside the office, but some you shouldn't.)

Some of these things can become skill-dependent, or rely on new agent functionality. Example:

- Broker Agents: If I have access to a broker agent, they will provide a market interface for me to order things. (Give a face to the "Broker's Fee".
- R&D Agents: They'll do data core research like they do now, but will also allow me to remotely manage jobs in their respective stations.

Anyway, just a few small ideas / suggestions.




This just pisses ppl off, hardly meaningful, doing the same thing but now forced to w-a-s-d really slowly.


Whats is meaningful to you, is role play to others.
Why games that have that system of navigation have more players than EVE?
people like to fell their character - live through it.
and you cant fell anything in clicking the same buttons that are always in the same place on the screen on the same ugly bar.


WAIT does this mean Mittens is in favor of WiS? Cause he's such a hard core RPer an all

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/buddahcjcc/SOA-3-2.jpg
Allandi
Doomheim
#4091 - 2012-04-05 16:09:06 UTC
I find it somewhat depressing that the new direction for Wis is a 0.0 play-model.

One of the reasons Wis was so interesting to me was there was potential for a new cool social/entertaining environment free from the 'step on your fellow players face' mentality.

I love Pvp, played daoc for 7 years, spent 2 years down in Providence in Eve. Every now and then you need that safe-zone, that hidey hole that you can relax in. Even daoc had housing, and peopled loved it. You dont -have- to attach pvp to social environments, no matter how much 0.0 lights up your forum.
RAP ACTION HERO
#4092 - 2012-04-05 16:11:37 UTC  |  Edited by: RAP ACTION HERO
Avila Cracko wrote:
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
Orator de Umbras wrote:
Give me liberty (from my pod), or give me death.

*self-destructs pod*

I can do this all night. . . what's it gonna be CCP?


To CCP:

People are not going to like it at first, but it will be a necessary step to make WiS meaningful.

You NEED to move things out of the globally accessible UI and into 3D space as an interactive object.

- If I need to use the market, I should have to walk into station and find a market interface.
- If I need to update my clone, I should have to walk into the station's medical facility to do so.
- If I need to start / stop an industry job, I should have to go to the station's laboratory / factory.
- For agents, you should have to find the agent within the station to get their "phone number" before you can contact them.
- Corporate administration should be done in the corporation's office. (Some things you could do outside the office, but some you shouldn't.)

Some of these things can become skill-dependent, or rely on new agent functionality. Example:

- Broker Agents: If I have access to a broker agent, they will provide a market interface for me to order things. (Give a face to the "Broker's Fee".
- R&D Agents: They'll do data core research like they do now, but will also allow me to remotely manage jobs in their respective stations.

Anyway, just a few small ideas / suggestions.




This just pisses ppl off, hardly meaningful, doing the same thing but now forced to w-a-s-d really slowly.


Whats is meaningful to you, is role play to others.
Why games that have that system of navigation have more players than EVE?
people like to fell their character - live through it.
and you cant fell anything in clicking the same buttons that are always in the same place on the screen on the same ugly bar.

I think people want to roleplay with people rather than NPCs. The activities above are just tasks done by yourself, preferably done as quickly as possible.
Star Wars online probably has that you can fell all you want over there right now while they work on wis.
*also there are many other major reasons and differences other than lack of avatars that makes EVE less popular than other conventional mmo games.

vitoc erryday
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#4093 - 2012-04-05 16:18:48 UTC
Allandi wrote:
I find it somewhat depressing that the new direction for Wis is a 0.0 play-model.

One of the reasons Wis was so interesting to me was there was potential for a new cool social/entertaining environment free from the 'step on your fellow players face' mentality.

I love Pvp, played daoc for 7 years, spent 2 years down in Providence in Eve. Every now and then you need that safe-zone, that hidey hole that you can relax in. Even daoc had housing, and peopled loved it. You dont -have- to attach pvp to social environments, no matter how much 0.0 lights up your forum.


Amen. I hope they just read the thread and don't turn WiS into yet another useless wasted attempt to lure hiseccers into the nullsec "chore" gameplay. My irony gland would poison me to death if hiseccers where left outside of WiS content....Lol
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#4094 - 2012-04-05 16:38:33 UTC
Richard Aiel wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:


Whats is meaningful to you, is role play to others.
Why games that have that system of navigation have more players than EVE?
people like to fell their character - live through it.
and you cant fell anything in clicking the same buttons that are always in the same place on the screen on the same ugly bar.


WAIT does this mean Mittens is in favor of WiS? Cause he's such a hard core RPer an all



this

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Avila Cracko
#4095 - 2012-04-05 16:41:08 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:


Whats is meaningful to you, is role play to others.
Why games that have that system of navigation have more players than EVE?
people like to fell their character - live through it.
and you cant fell anything in clicking the same buttons that are always in the same place on the screen on the same ugly bar.


WAIT does this mean Mittens is in favor of WiS? Cause he's such a hard core RPer an all



this



We saw that he don't RP.
We saw that he is like that in RL too.
No roles, its just him.

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Avila Cracko
#4096 - 2012-04-05 16:47:02 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
Orator de Umbras wrote:
Give me liberty (from my pod), or give me death.

*self-destructs pod*

I can do this all night. . . what's it gonna be CCP?


To CCP:

People are not going to like it at first, but it will be a necessary step to make WiS meaningful.

You NEED to move things out of the globally accessible UI and into 3D space as an interactive object.

- If I need to use the market, I should have to walk into station and find a market interface.
- If I need to update my clone, I should have to walk into the station's medical facility to do so.
- If I need to start / stop an industry job, I should have to go to the station's laboratory / factory.
- For agents, you should have to find the agent within the station to get their "phone number" before you can contact them.
- Corporate administration should be done in the corporation's office. (Some things you could do outside the office, but some you shouldn't.)

Some of these things can become skill-dependent, or rely on new agent functionality. Example:

- Broker Agents: If I have access to a broker agent, they will provide a market interface for me to order things. (Give a face to the "Broker's Fee".
- R&D Agents: They'll do data core research like they do now, but will also allow me to remotely manage jobs in their respective stations.

Anyway, just a few small ideas / suggestions.




This just pisses ppl off, hardly meaningful, doing the same thing but now forced to w-a-s-d really slowly.


Whats is meaningful to you, is role play to others.
Why games that have that system of navigation have more players than EVE?
people like to fell their character - live through it.
and you cant fell anything in clicking the same buttons that are always in the same place on the screen on the same ugly bar.

I think people want to roleplay with people rather than NPCs. The activities above are just tasks done by yourself, preferably done as quickly as possible.
Star Wars online probably has that you can fell all you want over there right now while they work on wis.
*also there are many other major reasons and differences other than lack of avatars that makes EVE less popular than other conventional mmo games.


There is many games that don't have story at all for players that don't want that.
You see all the books, and novels, and story behind the EVE. I want that that become EVE, that that become truth.

And whats with NPCs and RP?
It does not matter who is the part of the story. It only matters that there are all characters to tell the story and some must be NPCs. And RP is in being the part of the story.

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Soulpirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4097 - 2012-04-05 16:56:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Soulpirate
I'll say it again.

Release some more rooms/content sooner rather than later. Common areas
for people to hang out for now, even if there is no actuall game play will be very
well recieved, more than alot of people think.

Do not try and release a "finished" product, it will never be enough, all you will
hear is, "that's it?". Expectations will be too high.

If you commit to slowly growing WiS over time by releasing content as it's ready
it will progress much easier than trying to release a whole new game which I think
many people are making the mistake of expecting.

If you are releasing a new game, yes you need to have a complete package to
offer at launch, to keep people busy untill you can launch an expansion. Well,
in this case the game already has plenty to do and adding small amounts of
content, be it some new ships, more exploration plexes, new missions, or a
common room(lounge) in stations, it all adds to EVE and the the EVE universe.

There is no WiS. There is no FiS. There is only EVE.


PS. It will be a great shame if Dust 514 launches without EVE players and Dust
players being able to mingle. Having those two parts of the EVE Universe connected
from launch will go a long way to retaining Dust players.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4098 - 2012-04-05 17:00:32 UTC
Guess nobody read my 'Everyone's A Winner' post - #4081


Sad

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4099 - 2012-04-05 17:32:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
So, to sum-up a lot of the posts in the last couple of pages:

CCP, giev WIS now, or RAGE!


Some of you need to get some realistic expectations or you are really gonna' be raging when WIS gets iterated next.

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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
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#4100 - 2012-04-05 17:51:51 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
So, to sum-up a lot of the posts in the last couple of pages:

CCP, giev WIS now, or RAGE!


Some of you need to get some realistic expectations or you are really gonna' be raging when WIS gets iterated next.


I don't get a sense of pending rage, just a feeling of anxious frustration. This isn't

really the shoot a statue kind of crowd.