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Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-04-05 14:58:29 UTC
Incursions are being rebalanced, that's it. VGs shouldn't provide a higher income for less risk. They are now (rightfully) being put at the bottom of the money pile, where Assaults are receiving a buff. Stop complaining.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#22 - 2012-04-05 15:01:43 UTC
Well if CCP want to in anyways keep with a realistic timeline and story line, incursions will be gone soon.. i mean 1 nation can only invade an entire empire for so long before both running out of men and spaceships..

So heres hoping incursions will end with the coming of Inferno!
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-04-05 15:08:18 UTC
Richard Aiel wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

After incursions are nerfed, they will then go after wh's, then level 4's (againandagainandagain...).

Because "you're not playing their way".


yes its only THEIR sandbox
not YOUR sandbox

#1 - LTQuote, m'kay?
#2 - I wasn't talking about CCP, instead all the whiners who for years (at least since I joined in 2008) have been complaining that "hi-sec makes too much, with too little risk", and the corollary whiners that "Low-Sec" or "Null-Sec" is empty.

People will find the place they want to go in game (wh's, low-sec or null-sec) when they're ready... or not at all. Nerfing hi-sec income will not fix the problems in low/null.

But, after incursions are *fixed* - there will be a new whine about "X,Y,Z keeps people in hi-sec..." Instead of trying to understand, all that seems to be happening to me is people fling poo until something sticks somewhere, then all the other poo-flingers come out...

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Angel Lust
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-04-05 15:28:57 UTC
I see a end of that time where all kind of people got togetter and formed fleets in higsec, and worked togetter .
When all botters are removed from eve , highsec incursion runners will part and go back to their belts as mining will be more profitable...
CCP started something good...
Carebear haters whined and CCP listened..
Back to sqare one
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-04-05 15:45:36 UTC
Angel Lust wrote:
I see a end of that time where all kind of people got togetter and formed fleets in higsec to kill each other, and worked togetter .
When all botters are removed from eve , highsec incursion runners will part and go back to their belts as mining will be more profitable...
CCP started something good...
Carebear haters whined and CCP listened..
Back to sqare one



added an important part.
Endeavour Starfleet
#26 - 2012-04-05 17:51:23 UTC
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Well if CCP want to in anyways keep with a realistic timeline and story line, incursions will be gone soon.. i mean 1 nation can only invade an entire empire for so long before both running out of men and spaceships..

So heres hoping incursions will end with the coming of Inferno!



Doing it right as in providing a new faction incursion would require dev resources instead of throwing some so called "Fixes" down in five minutes of coding because the forum filled up with nullsec whiners and Incursion bobs kept their channels xing up instead of contesting the lies that led to this.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#27 - 2012-04-05 18:03:48 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Well if CCP want to in anyways keep with a realistic timeline and story line, incursions will be gone soon.. i mean 1 nation can only invade an entire empire for so long before both running out of men and spaceships..

So heres hoping incursions will end with the coming of Inferno!



Doing it right as in providing a new faction incursion would require dev resources instead of throwing some so called "Fixes" down in five minutes of coding because the forum filled up with nullsec whiners and Incursion bobs kept their channels xing up instead of contesting the lies that led to this.

Obligatory umadbro.

Want to make loads of isk as part of a fleet? Try wormholes, or is actually losing your ship if you're careless too great a burden to bear?

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-04-05 18:10:12 UTC
one of the big things about incursions is the random fleet part that no other pve earning offers. It originally wasn't the isk, but the fact I can just join up with other people from other corps and enjoy with alot lower risk. That is the important part of incursions, hence the fix and not just nerf. Glad to see they are fixing the farm with a balance over just dropping reward. Good to see.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#29 - 2012-04-05 18:15:27 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
one of the big things about incursions is the random fleet part that no other pve earning offers. It originally wasn't the isk, but the fact I can just join up with other people from other corps and enjoy with alot lower risk. That is the important part of incursions, hence the fix and not just nerf. Glad to see they are fixing the farm with a balance over just dropping reward. Good to see.

Indeed, hopefully it will still be a viable profession for new players post nerf. Whilst not overshadowing all other means of making ISK, as it does currently.

I also hope they expand the gap in profit between high sec incursions and low sec. From what I've heard the increased hassle and time wasted due to hostiles renders low sec incursion running on the whole pointless. Or at best less profitable than high sec.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-04-05 18:19:42 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:

I also hope they expand the gap in profit between high sec incursions and low sec. From what I've heard the increased hassle and time wasted due to hostiles renders low sec incursion running on the whole pointless. Or at best less profitable than high sec.


That is quite correct. In terms of lowsec, it is possible to keep a low profile with the vanguard fleets. 10 man fleets for them are not that big of a deal and the sites are short enough you can run and keep safe with it not being a big deal. Getting into the larger sites is not worth it for non sov space. Large fleets and the time needed for the major sites is just asking for a gank fleet.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Josef Djugashvilis
#31 - 2012-04-05 18:27:28 UTC
Andski wrote:
oust Incursion Bob, the prophet of the incursion runners who styles himself as "Ammzi" and makes really bad posts about the mittani because he dares question the risk/reward balance across the game



Your portrait - to hide the goon tears?

This is not a signature.
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#32 - 2012-04-05 18:27:55 UTC
Why not call the guy Incursion Iggy? Would make more sense.
Torneach
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-04-05 18:30:08 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
As long as profit goes "high > low > null > whs" I'm happy.


I think you got that backwards. I really hope by accident.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#34 - 2012-04-05 18:32:38 UTC
Torneach wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
As long as profit goes "high > low > null > whs" I'm happy.


I think you got that backwards. I really hope by accident.

Heh, yeah, my bad Lol

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Torneach
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-04-05 18:37:39 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Torneach wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
As long as profit goes "high > low > null > whs" I'm happy.


I think you got that backwards. I really hope by accident.

Heh, yeah, my bad Lol


Oh, OK, good. Big smile
Raven Ether
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-04-05 18:44:14 UTC
**** incursions and incursion farmer scrubs.
Richard Aiel
The Merchants of War
#37 - 2012-04-05 18:57:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Aiel
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

After incursions are nerfed, they will then go after wh's, then level 4's (againandagainandagain...).

Because "you're not playing their way".


yes its only THEIR sandbox
not YOUR sandbox

#1 - LTQuote, m'kay?
#2 - I wasn't talking about CCP, instead all the whiners who for years (at least since I joined in 2008) have been complaining that "hi-sec makes too much, with too little risk", and the corollary whiners that "Low-Sec" or "Null-Sec" is empty.


#1 train sarcasm to 5 or are you ne of those that dont pick it up unles sthey put
(sarcasm) into the post?

Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Well if CCP want to in anyways keep with a realistic timeline and story line, incursions will be gone soon.. i mean 1 nation can only invade an entire empire for so long before both running out of men and spaceships..

So heres hoping incursions will end with the coming of Inferno!


Jove steps in and steps ON them

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#38 - 2012-04-05 19:31:37 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Simi Kusoni wrote:

Obligatory umadbro.

Want to make loads of isk as part of a fleet? Try wormholes, or is actually losing your ship if you're careless too great a burden to bear?


I hope CCP adds Sleeper incursions which drop ribbons into Hi Sec & NULL to spread the wealth Blink In the very least if CCP is serious about putting the economy in players hands blue loot from sleeper wrecks should be eliminated just like all other NPC buy orders to fix the ISK sink issues creating run away inflation
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#39 - 2012-04-05 19:34:44 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:

Obligatory umadbro.

Want to make loads of isk as part of a fleet? Try wormholes, or is actually losing your ship if you're careless too great a burden to bear?


I hope CCP adds Sleeper incursions which drop ribbons into Hi Sec & NULL to spread the wealth Blink In the very least if CCP is serious about putting the economy in players hands blue loot from sleeper wrecks should be eliminated just like all other NPC buy orders to fix the ISK sink issues creating run away inflation

Good thing CCP don't listen to bad poasters.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#40 - 2012-04-05 22:18:14 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:

Obligatory umadbro.

Want to make loads of isk as part of a fleet? Try wormholes, or is actually losing your ship if you're careless too great a burden to bear?


I hope CCP adds Sleeper incursions which drop ribbons into Hi Sec & NULL to spread the wealth Blink In the very least if CCP is serious about putting the economy in players hands blue loot from sleeper wrecks should be eliminated just like all other NPC buy orders to fix the ISK sink issues creating run away inflation

Good thing CCP don't listen to bad poasters.


lol I must be a good poster then... I'm pretty sure I know how CCP is going to speed up the Assaults ( involves NCNs ) and I've been pretty critical about the Assualts and how they need more luvin' in the forums.

And speaking of bad posters sure looks like CCP was listening to them when they threw mittens under the busAttention
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
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