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Questions regarding the Drone regions

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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#21 - 2012-04-05 14:34:44 UTC
gfldex wrote:
Deathwing Reborn wrote:
Yet no Dev is willing to come out


There will be a dev blog.


There will indeed be one soon (really soon, not soon(tm) ).

CCP Spitfire | Marketing & Sales Team @ccp_spitfire
Deathwing Reborn
#22 - 2012-04-05 15:19:03 UTC
CCP Spitfire wrote:
gfldex wrote:
Deathwing Reborn wrote:
Yet no Dev is willing to come out


There will be a dev blog.


There will indeed be one soon (really soon, not soon(tm) ).


Thanks Spitfire,

So does CCP have the answers to these questions and they are waiting to put them out in a Dev Blog then or are they still under development and might not even make it into this patch? We have roughly a little over two weeks to the patch and there are some large issues still lingering that we have heard nothing about yet but speculation. I just dont want to see another "here are the real changes" after the patch has already gone live and none of the ramifications were concidered for things left out.

Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#23 - 2012-04-05 15:36:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Jojo Jackson
Deathwing Reborn wrote:

1. Ok, so if there are bounties what kind of items do the drones drop?

All kind of drone-stuff maybe? Drone Links, Drones, Drone Nav, Omnis. Maybe we will see some Meta 1-4 stuff
Deathwing Reborn wrote:

2. New Faction loot? (making our faction spawns worth more than 10k isk.total for the enitre spawn)

Meta 6-12 drone stuff? "Mother drone a/b/c-type Drone Link" anyone :)
Deathwing Reborn wrote:

3. Security status randomization for drone regions? (This one ticks me off because I just got into a new .9+ system that could become a .3 system over night after all of our investments into the system

Why should they do this
Deathwing Reborn wrote:

4. The leak of the SiSi patch notes had the drone bounties on them and they were far less in bounty than compared to other regions. "putting bounties on them will be the same across the board". it wont be if you still screw drone regions over by giving less bounties.

Link? Do they have a fix BASE-value which is factored by the true-sec maybe
Deathwing Reborn wrote:

5. Officer drops? Goes along with Faction loot but drones right now get crap tech 1 drone stuff that isnt worth sqat. Is this going to be fixed

Why not? Drone Officer stuff for Carrier, Motherships and overpimped Domis ;)

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#24 - 2012-04-05 15:44:42 UTC
This information is important so the botters can tune their scripts accordingly.....

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#25 - 2012-04-05 15:52:22 UTC
Hello Zydrin prices at 2600 a unit.

I laugh at all the fools selling already Lol

Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
#26 - 2012-04-05 16:03:10 UTC
Deathwing Reborn wrote:

4. The leak of the SiSi patch notes had the drone bounties on them and they were far less in bounty than compared to other regions. "putting bounties on them will be the same across the board". it wont be if you still screw drone regions over by giving less bounties.


Unless they're smart and the new drone bounties are actually an indication of new bounties across the board...
Deathwing Reborn
#27 - 2012-04-05 16:05:11 UTC
Jojo Jackson wrote:
Deathwing Reborn wrote:

3. Security status randomization for drone regions? (This one ticks me off because I just got into a new .9+ system that could become a .3 system over night after all of our investments into the system

Why should they do this



I dont think they should. But this is one of the rumors that supposeldly they will "have" to do in order for bounties to go in. Too much "leaked" info that is only rumor and unsubstantiated. Too much player base saying this would be nice and not enough CCP saying this is what we are thinking about doing.

There has been a thread in the Russion forum section started by Spitfire if I remember correctly that hasnt seen any updates in months. I am not Russian and I live in drone lands yet the only forum topic I have seen any discussion in is the Russion speaking forums. Of which I would say at least 70% of the posts were in English.

I just believe that this is going to be another CCP itteration of screw the people living in drone lands, those regions should be the worst places to live in the game and every time you find a way to overcome the disadvantages we impose on you we will just nerf bat them into the ground. Oh and we will do it with as little patch note information as we can so you cant complain to us about it before a patch is deployed and we can just ignore you afterwards.
Deathwing Reborn
#28 - 2012-04-05 16:06:52 UTC
Esan Vartesa wrote:
Deathwing Reborn wrote:

4. The leak of the SiSi patch notes had the drone bounties on them and they were far less in bounty than compared to other regions. "putting bounties on them will be the same across the board". it wont be if you still screw drone regions over by giving less bounties.


Unless they're smart and the new drone bounties are actually an indication of new bounties across the board...


If thats the case more power to them. As long as it is the same across the board. Like I said already it's the simple fact of no information on a major change in a patch that is two weeks away.
Deathwing Reborn
#29 - 2012-04-10 18:58:43 UTC
CCP Spitfire wrote:
gfldex wrote:
Deathwing Reborn wrote:
Yet no Dev is willing to come out


There will be a dev blog.


There will indeed be one soon (really soon, not soon(tm) ).



Sir Spitfire, a big thank you to the people that have posted the dev blog about the drone changes in which we have gotten absolutely no more information than we have had before. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy that you all take the time to make this splended content for the drone regions and put no thought process into it other than get rid of alloys and give them bounties.

Very few questions that were bought up in this thread as well as many others were not answered and simply ignored.
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-04-10 19:51:46 UTC
Is it all drones, even rogue drones in missions in highsec or just 0.0 ones?

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
el cowboy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-04-11 13:45:59 UTC
I agree. CCP Greyscale as much as admitted they dont care what happens in the interim for drone lands as long as they can make miners happy.


CCP Greyscale wrote:
As a general point, these Drone changes are the first steps towards getting us to a place where we can actually balance the existing content and fill in the gaps. The reliance on mineral drops has always made them really difficult to work with, and now that we've changed that dynamic we've got more options WRT general balance. No timescales or promises, but this has at least opened a few doors for us.


Who knows how long it will take CCP to get us drone loot (worthless or otherwise). They still sidestep any real questions about why they refuse to look at the drone changes as a whole in one patch. The only reason I see is that they "have better things to allocate their time to for this expansion". In that case DONT release this yet and wait until you do have time to dedicate resources to this change.
Kalestra Cable
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-04-11 13:49:32 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Is it all drones, even rogue drones in missions in highsec or just 0.0 ones?


The answer was in the dev blog thread, all drones.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#33 - 2012-04-11 13:57:58 UTC
Deathwing Reborn wrote:

Yet no Dev is willing to come out and mention any of the above issues with these changes. What the hell CCP, are you just going to ignore the fact that giving drone regions straight bounties and ignore the rest is a horible idea?


You say that as is most of the playerbase don't think it's a fantastic idea that should have been implemented years ago before gun mining caused as many problems as it did.

Sorry your cheese has been moved. I suggest you adapt and take advantage of new opportunities.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#34 - 2012-04-11 14:00:08 UTC
el cowboy wrote:
I agree. CCP Greyscale as much as admitted they dont care what happens in the interim for drone lands as long as they can make miners happy.


CCP Greyscale wrote:
As a general point, these Drone changes are the first steps towards getting us to a place where we can actually balance the existing content and fill in the gaps. The reliance on mineral drops has always made them really difficult to work with, and now that we've changed that dynamic we've got more options WRT general balance. No timescales or promises, but this has at least opened a few doors for us.


Who knows how long it will take CCP to get us drone loot (worthless or otherwise). They still sidestep any real questions about why they refuse to look at the drone changes as a whole in one patch. The only reason I see is that they "have better things to allocate their time to for this expansion". In that case DONT release this yet and wait until you do have time to dedicate resources to this change.


You're in IRC - this change should be awesome for you. Now your leaders won't be able to exploit you quite as shamelessly as they have in the past.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-04-11 14:00:57 UTC
hahahahaha

holy **** look at you

why are you and your little corner of the spaceship world so important?

get a life. read the patch notes when they come out. play the game

******* spergfest in here
Deathwing Reborn
#36 - 2012-04-11 14:04:08 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Deathwing Reborn wrote:

Yet no Dev is willing to come out and mention any of the above issues with these changes. What the hell CCP, are you just going to ignore the fact that giving drone regions straight bounties and ignore the rest is a horible idea?


You say that as is most of the playerbase don't think it's a fantastic idea that should have been implemented years ago before gun mining caused as many problems as it did.

Sorry your cheese has been moved. I suggest you adapt and take advantage of new opportunities.



I have no problem with alloys being removed. I actually welcome the instant isk from bounties. But they are saying in that Dev Blog that drones will recieve supposedly the same bounties as all other pirates but have NO loot drops what so ever as well as still not having any real faction loot to speak of other than augmented drones which are worthless compared to faction / officer loot of other regions.

If they want to remove alloys thats fine, they just need to take care of the other things that go along with that change. Hell they could at least up the bounty prices to reflect not having any loot.....
el cowboy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-04-12 13:18:31 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
el cowboy wrote:
I agree. CCP Greyscale as much as admitted they dont care what happens in the interim for drone lands as long as they can make miners happy.


CCP Greyscale wrote:
As a general point, these Drone changes are the first steps towards getting us to a place where we can actually balance the existing content and fill in the gaps. The reliance on mineral drops has always made them really difficult to work with, and now that we've changed that dynamic we've got more options WRT general balance. No timescales or promises, but this has at least opened a few doors for us.


Who knows how long it will take CCP to get us drone loot (worthless or otherwise). They still sidestep any real questions about why they refuse to look at the drone changes as a whole in one patch. The only reason I see is that they "have better things to allocate their time to for this expansion". In that case DONT release this yet and wait until you do have time to dedicate resources to this change.


You're in IRC - this change should be awesome for you. Now your leaders won't be able to exploit you quite as shamelessly as they have in the past.


Yes I am in IRC and yes it will be nice to hopefully not get screwed over as badly by them. But, it still does not excuse the reason CCP is making changes while ignoring major issues with the way they are doing it.
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