EVE General Discussion

The ships in EVE come in many styles and shapes. You could prefer the styles of some of the races over others, you could hate or love asymmetric ships (CCP certainly doesn't like them anymore), the opinions about the 'clean' look of the new Minmatar style differ, and the sleek, smooth 'shell' theme of Amarr seems to be a thing of the past, when looking at the new Maller.

But no matter of all these styles and themes, in my opinion there has been always one very big flaw in the way CCP designed their ships: instead of designing the ships around the guns, the art-department in most cases just seemed to have designed a cool-looking ship and then started looking for places where they could tack on some (and for battleships really small) guns.

This process of designing the 'cool-looking-ship' first and 'oh-yeah-guns' later, could be seen during Fanfest's design demonstration. The simple thought that most ships primarily exist as a platform to move weapons never seems to occur. The concept artist just chooses a cool-looking silhouette and starts to flesh it out, even only deciding along the way what size it should actually be.

I understand how the mechanics in EVE don't allow for coaxial guns and ships having only eight 'maximum-size' turret slots possible, but this can't be an excuse to not make the ships look like they are actually built around their weapon-systems.

The new missile launchers actually forced CCP's art department to design the new stealth-bombers always keeping in mind it has to fit the new torpedo launchers. The results are in my opinion the best looking ships in the game.

I also like how this forces CCP to do something different for their T2 ships instead of some (very) lazy re-skin. I hope they will redo the rest in the same manner, starting with the Sacrilege.

Those are some smexy looking ships, might actually fly my manticore more often now

I'm loving that Manticore design. Can't wait to see it implemented. The Nemesis I like as it is already: reminds me of a giant metal teddy bear.

That used to be the case. Not anymore with this new 'clean' look.

Yeah, but they at least they used to have something extra on the model, like the Sacrilege's engines, or the Crow's missile-pods. And even that reskin isn't very distinctive in many cases (or it was, but has been altered again to be more bland, like the Ishkur and Ishtar)

Semi offtopic; but i wonder how a drake will look like, as its current design doesnt allow the missile turrets.

Completely agree with this. Designing credibly laid out ships that look cool is the way ahead.
I understand the argument that Minmatar should have more transmitter aerials and Amarr need to look more like complex machines. As far as symmetry/asymmetry is concerned, the Manticore has it absolutely right - Great job!

Any chance you could go back and fix the new Reaper? It's a real disappointment, lacking any kind of credibility. Sad sad story!

I love CCP's stealth bomber designs. Please pleas keep it up CCP.



Also, can the stealth bombers PLEASE get a look at balancing their CPU/Powergrid and EHP amounts, among other thigns?

The Nemesis looks like a heavenly work of art, but I can't fly it when it has less EHP than its T1 counterpart, or when I can't fit anything because CPU/PG is too low.

God no, please make the T2 versions a little different from the versions they are build from, just as an Apache longbow is different from a normal Apache helicopter.

It's good to use the base but give it a change that makes it fit for it's specialized role, like some modifications on the outside needed to: (use a cobert ops cloaking device, large launchers, keeping signature radius down from MWD, make it good using ewar ect ect.) could be as simple as an extra radar dish, extended tubes for launching, plates that cover the exhausts or it's stream.