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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-04-05 07:26:59 UTC
**** happens,mate. After my first loss in my missionboat, I was pretty much pissed off as well. But stick with it,and it will prove very fulfilling. The hardest part is not getting back up,but wanting to get back up.

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Hroya
#42 - 2012-04-05 07:27:37 UTC
You have mail but i reckon your answer can be derived from your recent responses P

Good luck on any decision you stick to.

You go your corridor but.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#43 - 2012-04-05 07:29:01 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:



I have nothing left. I got my remaining ships blown up and shipped off my last isk. I wish I could have kept playing this game because the actual PvP where you fight against other people who actually want to PvP was fun. But I am not willing to spend another two weeks saving up isk just to get it blown up again.


So start again and learn from your mistakes. This happens to literally everyone at some point. In 2 months you got 300 mil and that was from knowing very little of the game which makes you a hell of a lot better than me when I was at 2 months old. I was trying to do missions in a blackbird of all things.

Don't be weak.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#44 - 2012-04-05 07:35:21 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
So today after playing for about 2 months I have deiced to quit Eve. I didn't really want to but I couldn't bring myself to keep playing this game. Where to start?

I love PvP. Its why I play video games, and its what drew me to this game. Unfortunately, PvP is also expensive, especially for new players. So in order to make enough isk to buy myself some ships to get blown up I picked up trading. Just simple buy low, sell high stuff. I was making pretty decent isk doing it too, and after a couple weeks I had made about 300 million. Today I found a pretty good trade from Dodixie to Jita and decided to buy up 300 million worth of stuffs to haul. Yes, I spent almost all my isk. Was that stupid? In hindsight, yes. However I had run trades like this dozens of times without running into any problems whatsever.

Anyways about halfway through my route (I was not auto-piloting), I tabbed out to pick a new song and check my email quickly. When I tabbed back in, I was sitting in my pod. Turns out some guy in a tornado popped me within seconds in high sec. Just like that, I lost weeks of work.

I have quite an extensive history playing online games. I used to play a lot of WoW, I play tons of Dota and LoL, and am a top-level SC2 player. In all my years, I have never seen a more pathetic excuse for PvP than what I saw today. All I wanted to do was have some fun peacefully trading some goods between systems so that I could make enough isk to go do some actual PvP. On a good day I'll maybe make a tiny fraction as much as those farming bots that I see in null sec all the time. Instead I lost pretty much everything I had. Two weeks of work, and all somebody has to do is press a couple of buttons while I'm tabbed out and it's gone. PvP is supposed to be about out-smarting and out-playing your opponent. Whatever happened today, I don't know what to call that.

So I hopped into my battleship, flew it into null sec, and got it blown up. Then I quit.


Can i have your stuff ?

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Citizen of Solitude
Spacebar Chelien
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-04-05 07:35:41 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
**** happens,mate. After my first loss in my missionboat, I was pretty much pissed off as well. But stick with it,and it will prove very fulfilling. The hardest part is not getting back up,but wanting to get back up.


I remember about a week into the game I was running missions in my very first cruiser. I had spent all my money on it, and I got it blown up in a mission in short order. I stuck with it then because I realized exactly what mistakes I had made, and felt that I deserved to lose my ship for how I played. Within a couple of days I had a shiny new cruiser and I never lost another ship running missions again.

This time though by a stroke of bad luck I lost weeks worth of work and it has revealed just how toxic and unfriendly this game is. It's pretty disheartening knowing that I would be safer and would make more isk if I just installed one of those bots that I see so many players use.
Holy One
Privat Party
#46 - 2012-04-05 07:39:02 UTC
golden rule of hauling in high sec: the cargo needs to be worth less than the ship required to gank you. +/- 50% or so.

so you lost everything? hard that may be.

but.

eve is hard.

unlike real life, ignorance is an excuse. but poor consolation ex post facto.

fwiw I'm probably one of the few mass murdering scumbags who believes ccp should come up with a way to delay 'eve's harshest' lessons until new players are in a position to properly comprehend their vulnerability.

because of this I formally extend the invitation to teach you how to be a mass murdering scumbag.

look me up in game if you change your mind.


:)
evereplicant
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-04-05 07:41:51 UTC
to the op, sadly mate you are going to get trolled by the idiots..
However yes this is the problem with eve, and thats why eve isnt for everyone, thats why it will never really grow to its full potential becuase of stuff like this.
I have quit a couple of times on the same reasons, but perservered, and learnt from the mistakes. and there lies the solution, you have to basically learn from mistakes and try not do them again.
Like next time, i bet you dont autopilot? But there again being alphad be a cheap ship, with very little condesequences, which i think is very very wrong.

Sadly eve will continue to lose new players like yourself until they do something about helping new players actually learn the game. They dont, they just throw them to the sharks and say get on with it.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#48 - 2012-04-05 07:45:59 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
to the op, sadly mate you are going to get trolled by the idiots..


All I see is mostly helpful advice, and offers to help even more in game.

People are actually in really good mood <3

.
Liam Mirren
#49 - 2012-04-05 07:45:59 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Take a deep breath. Relax. Log in tomorrow. :)


This indeed, EVE is harsh and unforgiving and sometimes it hurts like a *****. Thing is though, if you quit EVE and go Back to whatever other MMO, would you really like it that way? No consequences, silly grinding, no effort and boring?

Pick yourself up, start over again and promise yourself to do better this time. We've all been there :)


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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#50 - 2012-04-05 07:46:16 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
to the op, sadly mate you are going to get trolled by the idiots..
However yes this is the problem with eve, and thats why eve isnt for everyone, thats why it will never really grow to its full potential becuase of stuff like this.
I have quit a couple of times on the same reasons, but perservered, and learnt from the mistakes. and there lies the solution, you have to basically learn from mistakes and try not do them again.
Like next time, i bet you dont autopilot? But there again being alphad be a cheap ship, with very little condesequences, which i think is very very wrong.

Sadly eve will continue to lose new players like yourself until they do something about helping new players actually learn the game. They dont, they just throw them to the sharks and say get on with it.


You learn by making mistakes. In this case he hauled too much isk in a slow squishy hauler.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#51 - 2012-04-05 07:46:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
evereplicant wrote:
to the op, sadly mate you are going to get trolled by the idiots..


We're not all trolls P, there's offers of help & some good advice in this thread

I reserve my trolling for people who deserve it, namely other trolls, particularly the ones that keep spamming the forums with how the upcoming PVP mechanic changes are unfair because they might actually get shot at by carebears. They claim that they want PVP, CCP are enabling them to have more PVP and they're crying about it. Troll tears best tears Evil

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Caldari State
#52 - 2012-04-05 07:52:21 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
**** happens,mate. After my first loss in my missionboat, I was pretty much pissed off as well. But stick with it,and it will prove very fulfilling. The hardest part is not getting back up,but wanting to get back up.


I remember about a week into the game I was running missions in my very first cruiser. I had spent all my money on it, and I got it blown up in a mission in short order. I stuck with it then because I realized exactly what mistakes I had made, and felt that I deserved to lose my ship for how I played. Within a couple of days I had a shiny new cruiser and I never lost another ship running missions again.

This time though by a stroke of bad luck I lost weeks worth of work and it has revealed just how toxic and unfriendly this game is. It's pretty disheartening knowing that I would be safer and would make more isk if I just installed one of those bots that I see so many players use.


if you want to PVP so badly join a 0.0 corp/alliance. and get 100% pvp ship reinbursment simple! easy! fun!

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Spacebar Chelien
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2012-04-05 07:56:32 UTC
Liam Mirren wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Take a deep breath. Relax. Log in tomorrow. :)


This indeed, EVE is harsh and unforgiving and sometimes it hurts like a *****. Thing is though, if you quit EVE and go Back to whatever other MMO, would you really like it that way? No consequences, silly grinding, no effort and boring?

Pick yourself up, start over again and promise yourself to do better this time. We've all been there :)




I don't play other MMOs for those reasons. That's why Eve appealed to me. But however mindless a game like WoW might be, you can't honestly say that what this tornado dude did to me was any better or more involved.

I see people all around me flying ships worth hundreds of millions, even billions of isk. Every time I go into null sec, I'm flying the cheapest ship around. People talk about how they just casually log onto their alt, make a couple billlion isk in a few hours, and then buy some more shiny ships and go right back to PvP. All I ever wanted was to make enough isk to buy myself some T1 BCs, fly them into nullsec, and get them blown up like an idiot.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-04-05 07:58:41 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
**** happens,mate. After my first loss in my missionboat, I was pretty much pissed off as well. But stick with it,and it will prove very fulfilling. The hardest part is not getting back up,but wanting to get back up.


I remember about a week into the game I was running missions in my very first cruiser. I had spent all my money on it, and I got it blown up in a mission in short order. I stuck with it then because I realized exactly what mistakes I had made, and felt that I deserved to lose my ship for how I played. Within a couple of days I had a shiny new cruiser and I never lost another ship running missions again.

This time though by a stroke of bad luck I lost weeks worth of work and it has revealed just how toxic and unfriendly this game is. It's pretty disheartening knowing that I would be safer and would make more isk if I just installed one of those bots that I see so many players use.

Yea,well... Still no reason to quit this game,bud. Also,like another poster above me said,if you made that much isk not understanding the game, itd be pretty easy to recoup your losses. Maybe you should try the 'Dark Side' for a bit. Blow up unsuspecting victims and loot their remains. It's quite therapeutic from what I hear.

Also,all you people who posted with helpful replies,GG. It's good to know we can help people too. +1 all you trollish bastards.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
RaTTuS
BIG
#55 - 2012-04-05 07:59:44 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
Sentinel Smith wrote:
First rule of Eve, don't fly what you can't afford to lose..

And if you want to get up from your computer, or alt+tab to do something else, DOCK. The second you undock, you accept the risk of PvP.


I adhere to that when I actually expect PvP to be happening. I would only ever PvP in cheapass cruisers that my corp gave me. If I had known that people actually bothered to blow up newbies flying through high sec then I would have been more careful. I have lost indys before, a couple of times when I flew into low sec. I learned my lesson from that because I actually made mistakes, and thankfully I only lost a few million when that happened. I was able to recover those losses very quickly. This time however I was making an effort to be more careful than usual on a route that I had figured out of experience to be rather safe and still got killed. My punishment was losing 95% of my isk.

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you are not a noob
and even if you where that is no excuse

1) don't fly what you cannot afford to loose as you will
2) be wary when you undock
3) if you are only 2 months old then fly that character and not something else.

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Big Johnson's
#56 - 2012-04-05 08:02:21 UTC
"Can I have your stuff" but apparently you have no stuff left P

Anyway, I remember how once I was flying a ship full of corp-owned stuff to Jita on my trader dude, it was literally like 1bil worth of ****. I was in a blockade runner so it should have been easy, except that I was also very sleepy and just took a Benadryl in addition because allergies. I don't remember falling asleep but apparently I did in Perimeter, 1 jump away from Jita. When I woke up IRL I was in a new clone in a station. OOPS. Most of my ISK was tied up in market orders at the time so I had to scrape money from all my characters and liquidate some assets to get the cash together to cover the loss since it was corp property and all, and of course there's the T2 hauler with T2 cargo rigs and my head with +4 implants, and I needed the blockade runner for the trip back since it was some jumps into not-high sec and the corp depended on me bringing some other stuff with me. Unpleasant.

**** happens, don't rage out at the game because some people play it in one of the ways it's meant to be played and that way is different than the way you want to play. Sandbox. When that thing above happened to me, I was annoyed not with the gankers, or the game, but with myself. Shouldn't have gone hauling expensive crap while barely awake, about to pass out, I'm smart enough to see that I made a mistake, admit it and learn from it.

But if you're not prepared to deal with events like what happened to you, then EVE isn't the game for you, tbh.

PS: trololol, right?
OmniBeton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-04-05 08:05:19 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:

In my mind non-consensual pvp is by definition not real pvp. I sure know that I wouldn't get any satisfaction just sitting my ship outside a gate and blowing people up when they look away from their screens.

I understand I made a gamble, but losing everything I had worked for doesn't seem like an appropriate punishment for looking away from my screen for a few seconds. Its hard enough for a brand new player to make isk as it is, now I have to deal with people killing me just for sport?



So, you simply found out this game is not for you.
What you cry about is that they didn't made it for you.

When you're done try joining girlypinkstars or something and complaing there are spaceships there.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#58 - 2012-04-05 08:11:24 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:


I don't play other MMOs for those reasons. That's why Eve appealed to me. But however mindless a game like WoW might be, you can't honestly say that what this tornado dude did to me was any better or more involved.

I see people all around me flying ships worth hundreds of millions, even billions of isk. Every time I go into null sec, I'm flying the cheapest ship around. People talk about how they just casually log onto their alt, make a couple billlion isk in a few hours, and then buy some more shiny ships and go right back to PvP. All I ever wanted was to make enough isk to buy myself some T1 BCs, fly them into nullsec, and get them blown up like an idiot.


And you picked the best money making way to do that. You are only a few months old and it is going to take time before you get up to the point where you can throw BC at things and not worry about cost. Right now I would advise you to fly light tackle ships. Intercepters, Assault Frigates ect. They are just as important as a BC in a fleet.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-04-05 08:12:38 UTC
OmniBeton wrote:
Spacebar Chelien wrote:

In my mind non-consensual pvp is by definition not real pvp. I sure know that I wouldn't get any satisfaction just sitting my ship outside a gate and blowing people up when they look away from their screens.

I understand I made a gamble, but losing everything I had worked for doesn't seem like an appropriate punishment for looking away from my screen for a few seconds. Its hard enough for a brand new player to make isk as it is, now I have to deal with people killing me just for sport?



So, you simply found out this game is not for you.
What you cry about is that they didn't made it for you.

When you're done try joining girlypinkstars or something and complaing there are spaceships there.

YUMADBRO???

Sorry,had it get it out of my system.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Spacebar Chelien
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2012-04-05 08:13:21 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
**** happens,mate. After my first loss in my missionboat, I was pretty much pissed off as well. But stick with it,and it will prove very fulfilling. The hardest part is not getting back up,but wanting to get back up.


I remember about a week into the game I was running missions in my very first cruiser. I had spent all my money on it, and I got it blown up in a mission in short order. I stuck with it then because I realized exactly what mistakes I had made, and felt that I deserved to lose my ship for how I played. Within a couple of days I had a shiny new cruiser and I never lost another ship running missions again.

This time though by a stroke of bad luck I lost weeks worth of work and it has revealed just how toxic and unfriendly this game is. It's pretty disheartening knowing that I would be safer and would make more isk if I just installed one of those bots that I see so many players use.

Yea,well... Still no reason to quit this game,bud. Also,like another poster above me said,if you made that much isk not understanding the game, itd be pretty easy to recoup your losses. Maybe you should try the 'Dark Side' for a bit. Blow up unsuspecting victims and loot their remains. It's quite therapeutic from what I hear.

Also,all you people who posted with helpful replies,GG. It's good to know we can help people too. +1 all you trollish bastards.


Seeing as how I have all of 100000 isk to my name now it would be pretty hard to recoup my losses. I would certainly get no satisfaction from ganking people in high sec while they aren't paying attention. I don't even like doing that in null sec. Hell a week ago our corp ran across some thanatos that was ratting and we shot it down in cruisers. We killed a 1 bil isk ship and it was nowhere near as exciting as when we get into fleet fights against dinky little thrashers and the like.

But I also would like to thank everyone for being so helpful and not just cussing me out, it's the one thing that is maybe making me think about reconsidering.