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Building new computer. What you think? Input appreciated

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Celtix Rhineheart
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-05 06:47:48 UTC
Tower - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0

Mother board - Intel BOXDP67BGB3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel

DVD drive - LG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD- RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH24NS70 - OEM

Processor - Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz

Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache

RAM - Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM

Power Supply - COOLER MASTER GX Series RS750-ACAAE3-US 750W

Sound Card - Vantec UGT-S100 7.1 Channels 48KHz PCI Interface Sound Card

Video Card - EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB

Price range is about 1000$. Any input woul dbe appreciated i wont be buying this till next month though
NeoShocker
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#2 - 2012-04-05 07:07:24 UTC
Seems good, but is getting a soundcard really necessary?
ivar R'dhak
Deus est Mechanicus
#3 - 2012-04-05 07:31:24 UTC  |  Edited by: ivar R'dhak
On first glance, dump the Soundcard and get an 128GB SSD instead. Nowadays it is inexcusable to build a brand new system without one IMHO.
Use it as the system drive, for your main apps and your currently favorite game. Learn about symbolic links to manually juggle the games installed on the HDD back to the SSD.
There are options to use an SSD as a "mega cache". I prefer to have more control over my data, but you might be happier without it. Though no matter what option you choose, get the SSD. You won´t regret it.
ivar R'dhak
Deus est Mechanicus
#4 - 2012-04-05 07:32:37 UTC  |  Edited by: ivar R'dhak
ivar R'dhak wrote:
That damn QUOTE buttan is seriously starting to annoy me!
Celtix Rhineheart
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-04-05 07:56:43 UTC
NeoShocker wrote:
Seems good, but is getting a soundcard really necessary?



Not realyl but for an extra 20 bucks it seemed worth it.
Celtix Rhineheart
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-04-05 07:59:17 UTC
ivar R'dhak wrote:
On first glance, dump the Soundcard and get an 128GB SSD instead. Nowadays it is inexcusable to build a brand new system without one IMHO.
Use it as the system drive, for your main apps and your currently favorite game. Learn about symbolic links to manually juggle the games installed on the HDD back to the SSD.
There are options to use an SSD as a "mega cache". I prefer to have more control over my data, but you might be happier without it. Though no matter what option you choose, get the SSD. You won´t regret it.


SSDs are super expensive though are they not?
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-04-05 08:38:02 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
DONT DO IT

it's like 2 weeks untill sandy bridge is outdated by ivy bridge.

For you this can just mean an extra 100$ off your cpu, just wait a few weeks


Also SSDs are super expensive, but HYBRID drives are amazing, and give anyone but a video editor the same SSD experience.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg

ivar R'dhak
Deus est Mechanicus
#8 - 2012-04-05 08:46:17 UTC  |  Edited by: ivar R'dhak
If you call 150 bucks super expensive, then I guess.
Edit: whoa it´s around 200$ on newegg. That dollar of yours really is going down the drain fast.Shocked
Also it´s fricken irrelevant what the damn newest next generation chip will have.

It´s like still riding the bike because the newest Ferarri is going to be so much sweeter than that "old Porsche". Blink

But I´m not going to annoy further with preaching about SSDs, seeing is believing I guess.
Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#9 - 2012-04-05 08:46:47 UTC
On first glance I'd say go with Z68 over P67 if you have the option, and also wait til ivy hits before you go buying anything, could save yourself a bit of cash or get something better for the same price


edit: Hybrid drive, do it

There should be a rather awesome pic here

AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#10 - 2012-04-05 11:32:00 UTC
Celtix Rhineheart wrote:
Any input would be appreciated i wont be buying this till next month though


Next month, everything changes...however:

Tower - kinda ugly, but w/e
MB - next month...
DVD - No blu-ray?
Processor - was updated last year to 2700, and, next month...
HDD - good for storage, poor for main. Go SSD for O/S and applications - the drive you've chosen would become a bottleneck.
RAM - 16 minimum....RAM is cheap right now, even 1600Mhz.
PSU - No comments to make other than reputation of CM is good.
SC - Never heard of it/them
GPU - 570 gets replaced next month by 2GB 670GTX. Fermi is two years old.

Long & Short: not bad, but not good. You'll be cursing the reflection in the mirror if you stayed with that exact spec in 30 days time.

AK

This space for rent.

Celtix Rhineheart
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-04-05 11:36:48 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:
Celtix Rhineheart wrote:
Any input would be appreciated i wont be buying this till next month though


Next month, everything changes...however:

Tower - kinda ugly, but w/e
MB - next month...
DVD - No blu-ray?
Processor - was updated last year to 2700, and, next month...
HDD - good for storage, poor for main. Go SSD for O/S and applications - the drive you've chosen would become a bottleneck.
RAM - 16 minimum....RAM is cheap right now, even 1600Mhz.
PSU - No comments to make other than reputation of CM is good.
SC - Never heard of it/them
GPU - 570 gets replaced next month by 2GB 670GTX. Fermi is two years old.

Long & Short: not bad, but not good. You'll be cursing the reflection in the mirror if you stayed with that exact spec in 30 days time.

AK


Its funny cause i was just now thinking the same thing. And i dont really need a blu ray since i have a PS3 with a 50" 1080p TV. Itll save me 100$ or so.

Basically im going to save up to roughly 1000 and then check prices on parts. The GTX 670 2 gig will be out by then and i might go for it depending how much it is.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#12 - 2012-04-05 11:38:44 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
DONT DO IT

it's like 2 weeks untill sandy bridge is outdated by ivy bridge.

For you this can just mean an extra 100$ off your cpu, just wait a few weeks


Also SSDs are super expensive, but HYBRID drives are amazing, and give anyone but a video editor the same SSD experience.


2 X SSD in RAID-0 are better, with a 3rd HDD platter in SATA3 for storage.

Hybrid drives are interesting, but you must use them as the primary partition, which means the goal of super-fast storage access speeds is dimished due to running the same drive for your O/S + Applications.

Running SSD in RAID-0 for non-critical storage+applications gives you better price versus performance than a Hybrid.

Besides, if you can visibly tell the difference between 900 mb/s on a SSD RAID-0 and a Hybrid; I'd like to borrow you brain for TF2 to improve reaction times.

The other thing missing from the post is the monitor - because this means everything, as far as I'm concerned, as it displays the sum of your rig.

AK

This space for rent.

Celtix Rhineheart
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-04-05 11:44:12 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:
DONT DO IT

it's like 2 weeks untill sandy bridge is outdated by ivy bridge.

For you this can just mean an extra 100$ off your cpu, just wait a few weeks


Also SSDs are super expensive, but HYBRID drives are amazing, and give anyone but a video editor the same SSD experience.


2 X SSD in RAID-0 are better, with a 3rd HDD platter in SATA3 for storage.

Hybrid drives are interesting, but you must use them as the primary partition, which means the goal of super-fast storage access speeds is dimished due to running the same drive for your O/S + Applications.

Running SSD in RAID-0 for non-critical storage+applications gives you better price versus performance than a Hybrid.

Besides, if you can visibly tell the difference between 900 mb/s on a SSD RAID-0 and a Hybrid; I'd like to borrow you brain for TF2 to improve reaction times.

The other thing missing from the post is the monitor - because this means everything, as far as I'm concerned, as it displays the sum of your rig.

AK



Already have a 32" moniter from ASUS with my current set up paid 400$ for it 2 months back.
Reiisha
#14 - 2012-04-05 13:01:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Reiisha
Go for a 2500k instead of 2600k. Unless you do a lot of CPU heavy tasks with very specific applications (rendering, encoding, etc), a 2500k will serve you perfectly for gaming. I would recommend an aftermarket CPU cooler though, the stock sandy bridge coolers are a bit meh.

Ditch the soundcard. Unlike what most manufacturers like Creative and co would like to have you think, on-board sound is excellent, unless you're an audiophile who can hear the difference between 320kbit mp3 and FLAC and need a digital output.

Get a different PSU. 750 is overkill for the setup. You'll just end up wasting power. A decent, gold certified 600w PSU will serve you perfectly - Check jonnyguru.com for more information on why this is important (a site dealing exclusively with PSU's). You will not ever 'need' SLI, there's no point getting a PSU for that purpose. SLI sucks unless you're willing to constantly tweak and fix your system and deal with massive heat issues unless you really know what you're doing.

RAM is incredibly cheap at the moment, you don't need "high end RAM" - It's just a marketing gimmick. I got some Corsair Vengeance sticks, they're damn cheap but still damn good.



Get an SSD, 128gb (not more, not less). Give it a 96 GB partition (for overprovisioning and increasing it's lifespan significantly). Install Windows and your most use applications, try and keep around 30-40GB free at all times.

This will give you a massive performance boost in everyday tasks. It makes the system feel incredibly snappy. Do mind, this does not bring you any ingame improvements - This is just the use of the system in other, everyday tasks.

Use a normal HDD for games and other stuff, i'd heavily recommend a WD Caviar (black preferred, blue is good too though).



If you want to use more than 1 monitor at any point, get a videocard with at least 2gb memory.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

Whitehound
#15 - 2012-04-05 13:23:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
Get a case from Antec. Like the P183. No sharp edges, drive boxes on sliders, multi-layered noise absorbing panels and indirect air ducts for low noise, dual chambers for heat separation, liquid-cooling ready, ... and the best is it has got a black, gun-metal finish.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Rajan Marelona
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-04-05 14:44:53 UTC
Celtix Rhineheart wrote:
Any input woul dbe appreciated i wont be buying this till next month though

Ivy bridge released at the end of the month or early next month, price/performance kinda the same for less watts, screw Sandy bridge, just wait, power supply of 750W is much too big, even 550W is large for what you said you want, screw a second video card because two cards is junk, and holy s-word yes, SSD, n-word please, you must get some, damn!
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-04-05 17:53:51 UTC
SSD definitely not worth the price.. for like $100 you basically get a boot drive.. the only advantages are faster windows boot times and maybe 1 game will be able to fit and be bit faster with loading.
its much more economical and practical to get a 1TB HDD for everything. Not sure why people need to load maps in games so much faster.. or why booting windows in 6 seconds is so much worse then 60 seconds... idk bout everyone else but i restart my computer like once a week..

a lot of sound cards have issues with win 7 it seems, i wouldn't get one, onboard audio on motherboards is very good these days

wait until ivy bridge, early reports have it at a 10% boost or more, even if you decide against geting ivy bridge the price of sandy will go down

i would wait until the 670gtx comes out or just get an AMD 6850 which atm is the most bang for your buck graphics card.

blu ray is completely irrelevant as other then watching or ripping movies from it it wont get much use.
most games i assume you will download from the Internets, the few games people buy retail will be n DVD.
Reiisha
#18 - 2012-04-05 21:52:35 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
SSD definitely not worth the price.. for like $100 you basically get a boot drive.. the only advantages are faster windows boot times and maybe 1 game will be able to fit and be bit faster with loading.


You'd be surprised how responsive the PC feels with an SSD. Small file read/write, the most frequent HD activity, is something an SSD does faster than a HDD by a factor of 50+. That's almost 2 orders of magnitude.

Starting apps, simply 'doing stuff' feels a lot faster with an SSD.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-04-05 22:30:02 UTC
ivar R'dhak wrote:
If you call 150 bucks super expensive, then I guess.
Edit: whoa it´s around 200$ on newegg. That dollar of yours really is going down the drain fast.Shocked
Also it´s fricken irrelevant what the damn newest next generation chip will have.

It´s like still riding the bike because the newest Ferarri is going to be so much sweeter than that "old Porsche". Blink

But I´m not going to annoy further with preaching about SSDs, seeing is believing I guess.


but a hybrid drove has a 4GB SSD built in, and it stores things to load and boot, your hard drive disk only spin 10% of the time compared to normal harddrives.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg

MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-04-05 22:33:16 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:
Celtix Rhineheart wrote:
Any input would be appreciated i wont be buying this till next month though


Next month, everything changes...however:

Tower - kinda ugly, but w/e
MB - next month...
DVD - No blu-ray?
Processor - was updated last year to 2700, and, next month...
HDD - good for storage, poor for main. Go SSD for O/S and applications - the drive you've chosen would become a bottleneck.
RAM - 16 minimum....RAM is cheap right now, even 1600Mhz.
PSU - No comments to make other than reputation of CM is good.
SC - Never heard of it/them
GPU - 570 gets replaced next month by 2GB 670GTX. Fermi is two years old.

Long & Short: not bad, but not good. You'll be cursing the reflection in the mirror if you stayed with that exact spec in 30 days time.

AK


I guess my point was more that, even if you don't care about the newest most expensive parts, once next month comes around, all of the stuff your about to buy will all drop in price close to 40%. So whether you want the newest best thing, or want what you listed. it's a waste right now.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg

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