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Why I quit the game today
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witchking42
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-04-05 06:55:50 UTC
All the routes into Jita are always watched, you probably got scanned a few systems away and they saw you as some easy loot.

As has already been said, don't rage quit. Take a day or two out and then come back.

You have two options to get back where you were:

Work up from the bottom making more and more ISK each trade, or just buy a PLEX (from CCP!!!!) and sell it on the market for 400-600M and your back where you where in no time.

And next time, keep an eye on your screen at all times.

Remember - it's only a game....to most of us!

wk.42
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#22 - 2012-04-05 06:57:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
**** this, I was trolled.

10/10 good one P

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#23 - 2012-04-05 06:57:52 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
In my mind non-consensual pvp is by definition not real pvp. I sure know that I wouldn't get any satisfaction just sitting my ship outside a gate and blowing people up when they look away from their screens.


You consent to spaceship combat happening to you when you click "Undock".

Spacebar Chelien wrote:
I understand I made a gamble, but losing everything I had worked for doesn't seem like an appropriate punishment for looking away from my screen for a few seconds. Its hard enough for a brand new player to make isk as it is, now I have to deal with people killing me just for sport?


Killing for sport is what piracy is about. Sometimes for the tears, sometimes for the profit, but usually just because they can.

You made a gamble: you put all your worth in one ship, you flew through Uedama and Niarja, you put your ship containing your entire net worth on autopilot. I expect that removing any one of those mistakes would have saved you from losing everything to a suicide ganker. What you were punished for is not "looking away from [your] screen for a few seconds." You put all your eggs in one basket, then proceeded to parade that basket past the most trigger-happy pirates in the game.

You can learn from this. Join RvB where there is cheap PvP on tap. Look at more ways to make ISK too.

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Black Dranzer
#24 - 2012-04-05 06:59:50 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#25 - 2012-04-05 07:01:03 UTC
Black Dranzer wrote:
You'll be back.


lol he sure will, if only because Eve is more addictive than anything you can buy from your neighbourhood drug dealer.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Amity Lane
Hek Mining Association
#26 - 2012-04-05 07:02:16 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Black Dranzer wrote:
You'll be back.


lol he sure will, if only because Eve is more addictive than anything you can buy from your neighbourhood drug dealer.

That's not true! I don't have a problem! I can quit whenever I want!

Twisted
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-04-05 07:03:24 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
In my mind non-consensual pvp is by definition not real pvp. I sure know that I wouldn't get any satisfaction just sitting my ship outside a gate and blowing people up when they look away from their screens.


And consensual PvP with no loss is boring and lame beyond belief.
Spacebar Chelien
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-04-05 07:07:14 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
In my mind non-consensual pvp is by definition not real pvp. I sure know that I wouldn't get any satisfaction just sitting my ship outside a gate and blowing people up when they look away from their screens.


You consent to spaceship combat happening to you when you click "Undock".

Spacebar Chelien wrote:
I understand I made a gamble, but losing everything I had worked for doesn't seem like an appropriate punishment for looking away from my screen for a few seconds. Its hard enough for a brand new player to make isk as it is, now I have to deal with people killing me just for sport?


Killing for sport is what piracy is about. Sometimes for the tears, sometimes for the profit, but usually just because they can.

You made a gamble: you put all your worth in one ship, you flew through Uedama and Niarja, you put your ship containing your entire net worth on autopilot. I expect that removing any one of those mistakes would have saved you from losing everything to a suicide ganker. What you were punished for is not "looking away from [your] screen for a few seconds." You put all your eggs in one basket, then proceeded to parade that basket past the most trigger-happy pirates in the game.

You can learn from this. Join RvB where there is cheap PvP on tap. Look at more ways to make ISK too.


My ship was not on auto pilot. I have no idea what flying through uedama and Niarja means. I have flown that route dozens of times and never seen anything out of the ordinary.
Francisco Bizzaro
#29 - 2012-04-05 07:08:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Francisco Bizzaro
Spacebar Chelien wrote:

I understand I made a gamble, but losing everything I had worked for doesn't seem like an appropriate punishment for looking away from my screen for a few seconds. Its hard enough for a brand new player to make isk as it is, now I have to deal with people killing me just for sport?

Why was it worth a profit to haul from one station to the next?

The reason is exactly that ships get blown up in Eve. If they didn't, your Dodi-Jita run would have been pointless and you would not have been able to profit from it anyway.

The value you added was: (i) saving someone the time of hauling it themselves (ii) saving someone else the danger of hauling it themselves.

In a game with perfectly safe autopilot (or AFK travel), both of these become practically worthless. But thanks to the gankers hauling has extra value, and since you are now smarter than the other dummies who get blown up, you have the opportunity to profit all the more.
Poldarn Joaq
Hooligans Of War
#30 - 2012-04-05 07:08:24 UTC
Since we are sharing.

On my first real venture into 0.0 to do some ratting I decided that I needed to get all the loot to high sec to sell it (before carriers). I got to the last jump before high sec and it was late and I had not scouted the gate. I ran into a gate camp and got mobbed. I was 500 m from being able to jump when I popped, so close, but such a rush. I was gutted, I reckon I lost around 300 mil aswel plus my fitted BS. Like you say, for a guy new to the game its a tough break, but hey, it ain't no thang. Make more isk, buy another ship, go and shoot spaceships. After all, spaceships are serious buisness!
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-04-05 07:09:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Degren
Hey OP,

Dude...it's all good, man. The risk is what makes this game crazy. There are ways to PvP with minimal risk/expense while you build a nest egg to get into the good stuff. (Edit: Scrolled up, saw what Jonah said. Double nestegg! Yeaaaa)

Also, that's just one loss. Weeks of work, sure, but if you had fun doing that work, is it so bad?

If you didn't have fun, I suppose that's another matter entirely.

Anyways, buck up, broseph

Hello, hello again.
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-04-05 07:12:19 UTC
First rule of Eve, don't fly what you can't afford to lose..

And if you want to get up from your computer, or alt+tab to do something else, DOCK. The second you undock, you accept the risk of PvP.
Janet Patton
Brony Express
#33 - 2012-04-05 07:12:49 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Take a deep breath. Relax. Log in tomorrow. :)

-Liang



I have nothing left. I got my remaining ships blown up and shipped off my last isk. I wish I could have kept playing this game because the actual PvP where you fight against other people who actually want to PvP was fun. But I am not willing to spend another two weeks saving up isk just to get it blown up again.



You still have your skills left at least. Fly only what you can afford to loose, otherwise its going to be painful.

Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke.
Josef Djugashvilis
#34 - 2012-04-05 07:14:01 UTC
Spacebar Chelien, welcome to Eve online, working as intended.

This is not a signature.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#35 - 2012-04-05 07:14:46 UTC
Basically Uedama and Niarja are choke points, the only way around them is to go many tens of jumps out of your way, so it makes for easy picking for the people that find suicide ganks and tear collection amusing. Zverofaust, the guy who ganked you is probably chortling away to himself at you quitting. Unfortunately other peoples misery floats some players boats.

Don't get mad, get smart & possibly even. Goons and friends are meant to be invading Jita at the end of April, it would be a most excellent chance to get on some kill mails and possibly pop the guy who popped you.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Spacebar Chelien
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-04-05 07:20:06 UTC
Sentinel Smith wrote:
First rule of Eve, don't fly what you can't afford to lose..

And if you want to get up from your computer, or alt+tab to do something else, DOCK. The second you undock, you accept the risk of PvP.


I adhere to that when I actually expect PvP to be happening. I would only ever PvP in cheapass cruisers that my corp gave me. If I had known that people actually bothered to blow up newbies flying through high sec then I would have been more careful. I have lost indys before, a couple of times when I flew into low sec. I learned my lesson from that because I actually made mistakes, and thankfully I only lost a few million when that happened. I was able to recover those losses very quickly. This time however I was making an effort to be more careful than usual on a route that I had figured out of experience to be rather safe and still got killed. My punishment was losing 95% of my isk.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-04-05 07:20:11 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Take a deep breath. Relax. Log in tomorrow. :)

-Liang



I have nothing left. I got my remaining ships blown up and shipped off my last isk. I wish I could have kept playing this game because the actual PvP where you fight against other people who actually want to PvP was fun. But I am not willing to spend another two weeks saving up isk just to get it blown up again.


durr
run level 1 missions for a bit.
300mil is nothing for a 3 month old character specced in combat. get to the point where you can run level 4s, and always keep a fitted level 4 ship

in a single level 4 mission you can make 10mil or so in bounties and agent mission rewards which means you can fit a frigate, maybe even a cruiser for pvp per mission
not to mention LP, loot if you salvage it, and the storyline mission every 16 missions or so that can sometimes give good loot.


next
chances are you are in a cheap industrial ship most likely untanked at all and even if you did, its still 1hit kill from a tornado which means you shouldn't have over 50 or so mil worth of loot in your ship. want to carry more? get a freighter.


you will not fine PVP in any mmo as good as eve at this point in time. nothing give the addrenaline boost that eve combat does, no matter the ship your in or the enemy is in. the reason it sucked for you was you were a moron
you provided the guy with what is known as a lolkill... you fit hundreds of millions of stuff in a ship that had less then 20k EHP
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2012-04-05 07:22:33 UTC
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
So today after playing for about 2 months
Doesn't take more than 5... ok maybe 10 minutes, to find out about suicide ganking, were you still on trial, perhaps you wouldn't know, but 2 months... come on.
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
I spent almost all my isk. Was that stupid?
Defo, you made yourself a target while carrying all your assets at once, clearly lacking common sense.
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
So I hopped into my battleship, flew it into null sec, and got it blown up. Then I quit.
And another mistake. You could have sold that battleship for a bunch of cheap fitted frigates or a couple properly fitted cruisers or a fitted battlecruisers and work your ass to earn some cash back... heck, even use that little cashflow to trade over again, after learning the lesson the hard way.

War isn't fair, crime isn't fair and since you didn't get that in 2 month, then yeah, you've clearly been out-played and out-smarted.

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#39 - 2012-04-05 07:22:44 UTC
Good troll, everybody fell for it. Although mentioning the tornado was just to much for me. 9/10

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Spacebar Chelien
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-04-05 07:23:52 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
Spacebar Chelien wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Take a deep breath. Relax. Log in tomorrow. :)

-Liang



I have nothing left. I got my remaining ships blown up and shipped off my last isk. I wish I could have kept playing this game because the actual PvP where you fight against other people who actually want to PvP was fun. But I am not willing to spend another two weeks saving up isk just to get it blown up again.


durr
run level 1 missions for a bit.
300mil is nothing for a 3 month old character specced in combat. get to the point where you can run level 4s, and always keep a fitted level 4 ship

in a single level 4 mission you can make 10mil or so in bounties and agent mission rewards which means you can fit a frigate, maybe even a cruiser for pvp per mission
not to mention LP, loot if you salvage it, and the storyline mission every 16 missions or so that can sometimes give good loot.


next
chances are you are in a cheap industrial ship most likely untanked at all and even if you did, its still 1hit kill from a tornado which means you shouldn't have over 50 or so mil worth of loot in your ship. want to carry more? get a freighter.


you will not fine PVP in any mmo as good as eve at this point in time. nothing give the addrenaline boost that eve combat does, no matter the ship your in or the enemy is in. the reason it sucked for you was you were a moron
you provided the guy with what is known as a lolkill... you fit hundreds of millions of stuff in a ship that had less then 20k EHP


Running missions makes my brain melt. I hate them. That's why I chose to start trading, it was a much more satisfying way to make isk. Nobody ever told me that Tornados can one-shot indy ships. Nobody ever told me that Tornados sit around high sec doing that kind of stuff. The actual PvP that I experienced was quite good. It's what kept me playing. But what happened today was far from PvP.