Crime & Punishment

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Allow me to paraphrase the conversation in no flattering terms then.

Kristopher Arione the CEO of Targaryen Protectorate came crying to me over the course of a few days insisting that I should boot Instant Reaction Corp from the alliance - because they were fighting back. Instant Reaction Corp (a pvp corp) had joined Dec Shield just to fight terrible wannabe pvpers like Targaryen Protectorate, and murder them easily on the Jita 4-4 undock. Kristopher Arione begged me to boot them from the alliance, becaues we were "infested" by a merc corp who were unfairly abusing our "exploit" and were catching their newbies in "log on traps".

He went on to whine about how they didn't actually like to pvp, and were only in it to grief members of Dec Shield - and for some reason thought I was on his side in this matter. In the end his entire corporation couldn't withstand two vindicator pilots and were forced to surrender from the war due to the overwhelming embarrassment at being terrible and losing ship after ship.

I since offered Instant Reaction Corp a permanent stance within Dec Shield, just to extract more tears from terrible wannabe griefers who don't understand the nuances of the game, or how to play.

Various concerns:
- The mercenary system will be horribly broken and never used unless there is a feedback method
- The having infinite defenders come to your rescue will be massively in favor of older players, and will need to be restricted to give a wardec "warm-up time" so they can't "surprise war targets" by having a massive fleet surround them and instantly enter into the conflict unannounced. - This will be very popular
- Restricting corps from retracting a war will only lead to more 1-man void corps that declare wars on behalf of a corp-hopping war force that hits targets of opportunity
- These void corps will also be used to bypass surrender mechanics that prevent redeccing for a week
- Inflated wardec costs against targets with more players will be abused as well. CCP won't implement this feature correctly at all. They'll fail to account for 51-day trials not counting as "trial accounts", thus completely negating the restriction. Trial accounts aren't what will be used to fluff membership numbers, it's the 51-day buddy accounts that will be.
- The Crimewatch highsec aggression/flagging system as described is too far overboard. (i.e. Can flipping should never be a global crime)
- Cynojammable lowsec will have its own loopholes and exploits however they plan to implement it

Game mechanic changes they should make to prevent explots:
- The Boomerang exploit will need to be fixed by preventing warpout once Concord has been called
- Prevent corp hopping while in space while there are wartargets in system
- A wardecced corp that applies/gets accepted to an alliance, it should send a message to the wardeccers informing them that in 24hrs they'll be at war with alliance X. (This is a variant on corphopping to "surprise" wartargets by suddenly being in a massive alliance that will be able to shoot them).

I'll have to think more about it, or get more details. But you can be assured there will be things to exploit. But so far it's on the right track

Bumping for the lols.

Love this alliance as it causes griefer tears and griefer tears are the best tears

thanks :)

Serve the hive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKeGwOKr7K8

no

Currently we're in 63 wars, a new record high for us (and maybe the game?)
We've helped over 410 corporations
And we've killed at least 28bil in ships this month (somehow)

Dec Shield is still very much alive and kicking. We'll still be offering this service up until CCP stops us with the next expansion.

So what will the "New Dec Shield" be for Inferno?

"Join our alliance and stay - make the Deccers pay out the arse"?

By far one of the most interesting ideas when it comes to solutions for the currently broken WD mechanics.

Bumpitty bump-bump!

"They got my corp out!"

Hopefully this won't be affected by any changes that don't also fix the WD mechanics. The costs associated with maintaining wardecs are ridiculously low.