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Autism and EVE Online

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Josef Djugashvilis
#121 - 2012-04-03 18:48:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
I notice that no one from CCP has posted in here. Probably because that would mean that they need to give some guidance on what is and what is not acceptable in terms of insults posted on the forum.

Sensible move on their part.

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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#122 - 2012-04-03 19:09:32 UTC
Would be great if the mods came along and nuked this silly thread. People get offended over the smallest things.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?

supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
#123 - 2012-04-03 19:36:28 UTC
Hito-Shura wrote:
Tears

HTFU as said before...

Wow cry much? Find another game... get into the real world... learn everyone is not nice.

Hellokittyonline... it cares.
Hito-Shura
Caldari Fire Demons University
#124 - 2012-04-03 19:51:19 UTC
supersexysucker wrote:
Hito-Shura wrote:
Tears

HTFU as said before...

Wow cry much? Find another game... get into the real world... learn everyone is not nice.

Hellokittyonline... it cares.


A pretty poor troll. It would help for you to actually point out which post has tears.
Josef Djugashvilis
#125 - 2012-04-03 20:11:08 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
Would be great if the mods came along and nuked this silly thread. People get offended over the smallest things.


Don't give up the day job.
Stick with the burger flipping.


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supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
#126 - 2012-04-03 20:26:37 UTC
Hito-Shura wrote:
supersexysucker wrote:
Hito-Shura wrote:
Tears

HTFU as said before...

Wow cry much? Find another game... get into the real world... learn everyone is not nice.

Hellokittyonline... it cares.


A pretty poor troll. It would help for you to actually point out which post has tears.


Cause imma read 7 pages yes on a sad thread...

OP is a crying baby... HTFU as said...

Nice try on trolling...
Richard Aiel
The Merchants of War
#127 - 2012-04-03 20:32:16 UTC
Andrea Griffin wrote:
Bob Bedala wrote:
Ask another twitter guy who profusely apologised once the Police turned up at his door and gave him a warning
I'd bet that he apologized because he felt he should and needed to, not because the police visit changed his mind about what he felt. He's sorry about what he did only because he was punished for it. Just like any other criminal or celebrity that does something ********

And no, not tin-foiling about being jailed by speaking out against the government. I'll quote part of the text that I linked earlier, because you didn't read it and I want to show you that it has indeed happened:
Quote:
The Sedition Act of 1918 (Pub.L. 65-150, 40 Stat. 553, enacted May 16, 1918) was an Act of the United States Congress that extended the Espionage Act of 1917 to cover a broader range of offenses, notably speech and the expression of opinion that cast the government or the war effort in a negative light or interfered with the sale of government bonds. One historian of American civil liberties has called it "the nation's most extreme antispeech legislation.

It forbade the use of "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, its flag, or its armed forces or that caused others to view the American government or its institutions with contempt. Those convicted under the act generally received sentences of imprisonment for 5 to 20 years. The act also allowed the Postmaster General to refuse to deliver mail that met those same standards for punishable speech or opinion. It applied only to times "when the United States is in war." It was repealed on December 13, 1920.
Also, need I bring up China? What about Iran? Not only does it happen today, but it has happened since we started recording history. It can happen again - anywhere - and throwing someone in jail for a few unacceptable, distasteful (but harmless) tweets is proof of that

And I do mean harmless. If as adults we're support to be able to communicate without using offensive language, then we should also be capable of not freaking out when someone else does. That doesn't make it acceptable, but they're just words and they only have the power we give to them.


wasnt there a kid that had the secret service show up cause he said something to the effect that the president should be wary of suicide bombers?
I wonder why that doesnt happen to us more often? I know Ive bitched more than once about a suicide gank and usually refer to a CEO as a president cause its pretty much the same

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Hito-Shura
Caldari Fire Demons University
#128 - 2012-04-03 21:35:06 UTC
supersexysucker wrote:
Hito-Shura wrote:
supersexysucker wrote:
Hito-Shura wrote:
Tears

HTFU as said before...

Wow cry much? Find another game... get into the real world... learn everyone is not nice.

Hellokittyonline... it cares.


A pretty poor troll. It would help for you to actually point out which post has tears.


Cause imma read 7 pages yes on a sad thread...

OP is a crying baby... HTFU as said...

Nice try on trolling...


I think you may need to read the first post.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#129 - 2012-04-03 21:40:24 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
THE L0CK wrote:
Would be great if the mods came along and nuked this silly thread. People get offended over the smallest things.


Don't give up the day job.
Stick with the burger flipping.





U sound mad bro.

The best part is your comeback. To tell an actual cook to keep on cooking is not an insult. I doubt you could afford my seared foie gras though. In fact I doubt that you even know what it is.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?

Kinroi Alari
Orbital Express LTD
Trystero GmbH
#130 - 2012-04-03 21:55:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinroi Alari
Anti-Vaxxers...
In EVE? OMG, where's my popcorn?
This is great!!!

EDIT:
Also, OP has my respect; both for posting, and for troll-wrangling without showing animosity.
Vyl Vit
#131 - 2012-04-03 22:00:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
THE L0CK wrote:
Man are we scraping the barrel or what with all this pc stuff. Not so sure about this one though. I've seen our wonderful starred word ******** used often but autistic? Really?
If anything more often than not I see the autistic people using their autism as a crutch (both in game and out), and when I say autistic people I really mean specifically the Asperger crowd. I've come to liken them to the ADHD's, who back in the 90's appeared to be every 1 out of 2 people. In fact I did a little research on Aspergers recently as I've been hearing the term more and more and it turns out that it and ADHD has quite an abundance of similar symptoms. Now I can't help but wonder if Aspergers is the new craze for Doctors who want to drug you with something new and expensive.

It's disappointing to see such a brutal, and callous response to any post, or communication. I'm not going to call you out on the fact the odds of you having met enough people with Asperger's to make a group judgement are the same as the odds pigs will fly out your butt. Doing "a little" research into Asperger's (as though you're checking out carpal tunnel syndrome) can't be realistically done without background in neural function, neurology and cognitive processes. (Evidence of this is claiming ADHD and Asperger's share symptoms.) To call something "new" that was identified in the 1940s shows your "research" was little more than a cursory glance. You clearly have an axe to grind, so the odds now increase you were looking "for" something pejorative, and now you seem to believe you've found it.

Yes, there is a possibility for anyone with a condition recieving attention to use it as both a crutch and an excuse. I've seen athletic stars using their prowess in a sport as an excuse from civil behavior. I've seen phds in physics use their intelligence as a way to excuse themselves from considering other people's thoughts as having any validity, just because they're not a physicist so they shouldn't be allowed to think. As in all such behavior, lack of parental action when these tendencies show themselves are more often as not the cause of the such behaviors becoming practices, similarly to how in your post you used misleading, misapprehended, and flat-out untruth to make a divisive and condemnatory judgement. I somehow think your mind was made up before you read the facts. "How come these people with disorders get all the attention, and I don't?" (That's a disorder, too. So, you may not be as out of luck as you think.)

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.

DonHel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2012-04-03 22:08:47 UTC
Hito-Shura wrote:
I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?


My 10 year old nephew has Aspergers , There is nothing "bad" about it and nothing should make it be a derrogatory title for name calling... My nephews best friend also has Aspergers, and I am willing to bet they are smarter then 80% of the kids in thier grade, if not more. They are both in multiple advanced classes, and love computers and working with them also. My nephew plans to do almost what you went to college for, i'm proud of him. When someone makes fun of him for the way he acts sometimes or says he is "********" because they dont really know what he has just that he is different, he says " don't hate me because I'm smarter then you" hehe
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
Doomheim
#133 - 2012-04-03 22:10:26 UTC
Just because you are socially awkward and prefer to be alone so that you dont have to be crushed in yet another social encounter does not make you Autistic.

Most of you have no idea what its like. It does not make you a loner who plays by his own rules. It makes ******* rain man.


Could you imagine him trying to play this game

Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words

Hito-Shura
Caldari Fire Demons University
#134 - 2012-04-03 22:13:31 UTC
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote:
Just because you are socially awkward and prefer to be alone so that you dont have to be crushed in yet another social encounter does not make you Autistic.

Most of you have no idea what its like. It does not make you a loner who plays by his own rules. It makes ******* rain man.


Could you imagine him trying to play this game


I can actually handle non-personal contact very well. I'm pretty lively in the game.

However, I'm awkward when it comes to Teamspeak or vocal chats to the point where I don't say anything at all and much rather talk through fleet chat than my microphone.

And of course, real life crowds make me nervous and I just want to escape without social interaction.
DonHel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2012-04-03 22:44:10 UTC
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote:
Just because you are socially awkward and prefer to be alone so that you dont have to be crushed in yet another social encounter does not make you Autistic.

Most of you have no idea what its like. It does not make you a loner who plays by his own rules. It makes ******* rain man.


Could you imagine him trying to play this game



Rainmain would own jita
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#136 - 2012-04-04 01:42:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jessie-A Tassik
Kattshiro wrote:
Quote:


Thanks for arguing the facts. Oh wait, I meant doing the idiot roll. Good slave! Master give good slave a cookie!


Lol my facts involve doctors and are readily available to look up. Go to itunes U and listen to the lectures on Autism. But I already know what you'll say.

Those guys (doctors or other people with PH.D's) are wrong. Those guys work for big pharma... This guy (Jenny Mcarthy says this. She got rid of autism with a colon cleanse BTW)

So what's the point in arguing with a wall? And that walls never changes it's answers or cares to look up the science?

"**** facts they disagree with me."

So call me names Zippy (usually indicative of sound mature state of mind and argument ability) , but at least im an educated slave...


Projection anyone? You still haven't mentioned fact one.

Did you know that DOCTORS with PH.D's approved the lead paint idiocy?

Oh yeah, and abestos to.

Of course, they did admit they were wrong and stop using it.

These days, they just stop using it and refuse to admit that they were wrong.

They can get away with this because many people, like the above poster, will hysterically jump to their defense no matter how clearly wrong they are. Because he knows whose gots the power, and he is backing thems. Unfortunately, the size of the cookie he can get for this is limited by the millions of other hysterics screaming at the top of their lungs that NO WAY NO HOW could such August and Glorious Figures as DOCTORS with PH.D's be wrong! Not a DOCTOR!

Lead paint. That they have erred in profound and life destroying ways is a matter of public record. The only question is, did they do so in this case?

That they stopped using it would seem to say YES.
Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#137 - 2012-04-04 02:19:22 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Dyner wrote:

People are just jealous that Aspies are smarter than them. Cool

You just pretty much stated that you don't believe people with aspergers are people.



We're not.

We're aliens here to take over the world. Bear
Mike712
Tenth Plague of Egypt
#138 - 2012-04-04 05:06:14 UTC
Basileus Volkan wrote:
I probably shouldn't even post here but... Has it occured to you that autism got its bad rep from the roughly 9 billion self-diagnosed autistics that roam the Internet? The ones that use their "specialness" as an excuse for their stupid uneducated opinions or just to garner attention?


^this

I have aspergers/high functioning autistic spectrum disorder, got a diagnosis from medical professionals in my early teens, the rest of you antisocial nerds are just ******* sperglords.

The one thing that does annoy me is when people call it "assburgers", because despite being dyslexic I have the fairly typical autistic trait of being picky about correct spelling and grammar and saying assbergers means I will instantly categorize you as a ******* moron.

I believe deeply in equal opportunity discrimination, I think its highly hypocritical that using a racial slur will get you reprimanded but calling someone autistic or a jew is deemed okay, it should all be against the rules or contrary to that all fair game, no exceptions.

Hate hypocrisy...

Regards, Mike712 The BattleClinic Team

Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#139 - 2012-04-04 21:48:13 UTC
supersexysucker wrote:
Hito-Shura wrote:
Tears

HTFU as said before...

Wow cry much? Find another game... get into the real world... learn everyone is not nice.

Hellokittyonline... it cares.

No tears in the OP. I just re-read it to make sure. Suggest you do the same m8
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#140 - 2012-04-05 15:24:40 UTC
I typed Assburgers into google because I wanted to collect a funny yet asinine picture to post here, and instead it sent me to actual proper Asperger websites.








GOOGLE IS PREJUDICE TOWARDS AUTISTIC PEOPLE

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?