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EVE PLAYERS - A call for Issler Dainze to step down from CSM7

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Hrald
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#61 - 2012-04-04 20:01:44 UTC
Darius III wrote:
The goonies suggest waging war on the alliance of Issler Dainze I hear.

Why her alliance and not mine? Because goonies perceive that hers is unable to fight back. Were mine own words not more piercing than hers? Did I not strive harder to strike a blow against the injustices that inevitably brought the "King of Space" down low and laid bare his own iniquities? Should then you take arms against an opponent less likely to retaliate? Even now as the drums of war beat loudly from far lands, allies gather strength to repel the horde. I will gather the faithful and join arms to stand up against those who would attack people they see not able to defend themselves. The combined forces of thousands cannot stand against one who is steadfast in righteous belief. Your assault will be your undoing. Wars start when you will them to, but do not always end on a schedule chosen by the aggressor.

rofl. Look at this: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/BricK_sQuAD./stats

So you're 4/5ths of the way back up to your old peak of corps, yet still have half the pilots. Your sov's a joke. You surround yourself with a buffer to be safely coddled away. You got evicted from the north when the Russians steamrolled you then we evicted you from Delve.

You're space transients. Space hobos. You can yell, scream, beg for change, but you're still just space bums. No one cares about Brick Squad.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#62 - 2012-04-04 20:23:32 UTC
Sidus Sarmiang wrote:
Cripes, stop with the talk about the CSM not having a mandate and starting a new election. CCP is not going to do that, and it makes the CSM look like it's unsupported by the player base which will weaken its position. Yes, Issler and Darius are useless shitheels, but in the long run they will accomplish nothing and have no say. They are irrelevant whether they step down or not. The remaining CSM, many of which are decent folks, and whom I imagine will keep in touch with the Mittani anyways, will likely push an agenda similar to CSM 6 that we can get behind.

If they push a different agenda or cause trouble, we can make an issue of it then, but for now lets see how things go. The matter is effectively over, and it's time to focus on making the best of it.



I always love it when someone has declared their "agenda" the one true agenda of Eve and all others are to be ignored or marginalized.

I was elected to bring attention to the most common activity in Eve, mining. Good luck making the case that providing the miners of Eve a voice would cause trouble and warrant my removal.

I do agree totally with the last thing you said, "it's time to focus on making the best of it".

Issler
Harrigan VonStudly
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#63 - 2012-04-04 20:41:36 UTC
Darius III wrote:
The goonies suggest waging war on the alliance of Issler Dainze I hear.

Why her alliance and not mine? Because goonies perceive that hers is unable to fight back. Were mine own words not more piercing than hers? Did I not strive harder to strike a blow against the injustices that inevitably brought the "King of Space" down low and laid bare his own iniquities? Should then you take arms against an opponent less likely to retaliate? Even now as the drums of war beat loudly from far lands, allies gather strength to repel the horde. I will gather the faithful and join arms to stand up against those who would attack people they see not able to defend themselves. The combined forces of thousands cannot stand against one who is steadfast in righteous belief. Your assault will be your undoing. Wars start when you will them to, but do not always end on a schedule chosen by the aggressor.



Just a guess. Maybe Goons know Br1ck's best FC is like 14 years old and they don't want their names dragged through mud, lives threatened, dog's life threatened, gaming media labeling them as child abusers, etc... should they decide to wage war on you guys.

Blink
Cosmic Fart
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-04-04 21:41:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Cosmic Fart
Phigmeta wrote:
Often in Eve we are told by CCP, "EVE IS REAL" but even more often we see that the only thing that is truly real is 2 things.


1) CCP is only really driven by money and will throw anyone under the bus to get it.

2) Eve "politics" are driven by sad little manchilds that need to get outdoors more often.

Mittani did something special with CSM6, he united the CSM and in doing that he united the EVE player base towards a better tomorrow. This FORCED ... yes FORCED ccp into changing the direction of eve from WOW in space to improving what we know is our sandbox.

And what the EVE community has built, CCP and their childmen seek to destroy.

Look I didn't want some of the CSM6 folks on CSM7, I somewhat didn't want to see Sellene to be reelected. That being said He is a good example of what CSM SHOULD BE.

And Issler is an example of what CSM7 will degrade to given the option to continue in the style of CSM3. 10,000 eve players said, "we want unity, we want what was CSM6

Issler says, "We want WORDS not actions, we want separation not unity, we want space politics not progress"

YOU DON'T Speak for the 10,000 .... you speak for yourself. Please do it alone and not in the CSM7

I ask the CSM7 leaders to Stand up and say to these minority elected such as Issler, " Get in line or GTFO"



Blah blah blah,

No one FORCED CCP to do a damn thing. People who unsubbed caught the attention of CCP. CCP realized something needed to be changed because of the mass exodus. Had nothing to do with mittens or the CSM. Get over your delusions.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#65 - 2012-04-05 01:51:43 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
People should give up this "Until the 10000 people are allowed to vote" idea. They did vote, they wasted their votes, if they were not able to take their ability to vote seriously the first time, they shouldn't have the ability to do it again. It's a simple concept you voted for a fool who then made a fool of himself(and this whole game). The only way this could have been more obvious, would have been if he had the name "Silly Party" under his name.

It's easy next year use your brains before you vote.


^^^This^^^

Mittani threw Mittani under the bus, that's it, that's all, ******* deal with it.

And choose a figurehead who can hold his liquor better next time.

Ni.
GondriA
A Totally Anal Conceited Organization
#66 - 2012-04-05 02:20:39 UTC
Phigmeta wrote:
Often in Eve we are told by CCP, "EVE IS REAL" but even more often we see that the only thing that is truly real is 2 things.


1) CCP is only really driven by money and will throw anyone under the bus to get it.

2) Eve "politics" are driven by sad little manchilds that need to get outdoors more often.

Mittani did something special with CSM6, he united the CSM and in doing that he united the EVE player base towards a better tomorrow. This FORCED ... yes FORCED ccp into changing the direction of eve from WOW in space to improving what we know is our sandbox.

And what the EVE community has built, CCP and their childmen seek to destroy.

Look I didn't want some of the CSM6 folks on CSM7, I somewhat didn't want to see Sellene to be reelected. That being said He is a good example of what CSM SHOULD BE.

And Issler is an example of what CSM7 will degrade to given the option to continue in the style of CSM3. 10,000 eve players said, "we want unity, we want what was CSM6

Issler says, "We want WORDS not actions, we want separation not unity, we want space politics not progress"

YOU DON'T Speak for the 10,000 .... you speak for yourself. Please do it alone and not in the CSM7

I ask the CSM7 leaders to Stand up and say to these minority elected such as Issler, " Get in line or GTFO"


go to some tree and play....
Lord Dravius
Doomheim
#67 - 2012-04-23 15:30:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Dravius
Words are just a noise. They can't hurt anyone. Mittens was good for the CSM and needs to be back in it IMO. Issler is pretty much the opposite of what I want in a CSM in every possible way. Nothing good can come of him having a seat.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#68 - 2012-04-23 16:46:40 UTC
Hrald wrote:
[quote=Darius III] You surround yourself with a buffer to be safely coddled away.


Reset goons if you actually want to use this line.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-04-24 05:19:55 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Hrald wrote:
[quote=Darius III] You surround yourself with a buffer to be safely coddled away.


Reset goons if you actually want to use this line.


man i remember when LV used to call us meatshields

good times, good times
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#70 - 2012-04-24 05:26:24 UTC
Harrigan VonStudly wrote:
Br1ck's best FC is like 14 years old and they don't want their names dragged through mud, lives threatened, dog's life threatened, gaming media labeling them as child abusers, etc... should they decide to wage war on you guys.

Blink

Well, dogs' lives have already been threatened.

But I didn't know their best FC was 14. Guess there's no age limit thing on EVE.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#71 - 2012-04-24 06:29:53 UTC
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:
Darius III wrote:
The goonies suggest waging war on the alliance of Issler Dainze I hear.

Why her alliance and not mine? Because goonies perceive that hers is unable to fight back. Were mine own words not more piercing than hers? Did I not strive harder to strike a blow against the injustices that inevitably brought the "King of Space" down low and laid bare his own iniquities? Should then you take arms against an opponent less likely to retaliate? Even now as the drums of war beat loudly from far lands, allies gather strength to repel the horde. I will gather the faithful and join arms to stand up against those who would attack people they see not able to defend themselves. The combined forces of thousands cannot stand against one who is steadfast in righteous belief. Your assault will be your undoing. Wars start when you will them to, but do not always end on a schedule chosen by the aggressor.



No,because she is a threat to this game while you are only sad and really bad joke.


Also, Goons already wiped the floor with your alliance. I heard it was pretty boring.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#72 - 2012-04-24 06:31:54 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Sidus Sarmiang wrote:
Cripes, stop with the talk about the CSM not having a mandate and starting a new election. CCP is not going to do that, and it makes the CSM look like it's unsupported by the player base which will weaken its position. Yes, Issler and Darius are useless shitheels, but in the long run they will accomplish nothing and have no say. They are irrelevant whether they step down or not. The remaining CSM, many of which are decent folks, and whom I imagine will keep in touch with the Mittani anyways, will likely push an agenda similar to CSM 6 that we can get behind.

If they push a different agenda or cause trouble, we can make an issue of it then, but for now lets see how things go. The matter is effectively over, and it's time to focus on making the best of it.



I always love it when someone has declared their "agenda" the one true agenda of Eve and all others are to be ignored or marginalized.

I was elected to bring attention to the most common activity in Eve, mining. Good luck making the case that providing the miners of Eve a voice would cause trouble and warrant my removal.

I do agree totally with the last thing you said, "it's time to focus on making the best of it".

Issler


I'd rather have Seleene work on mining than you. At least he knows a thing or two about living in Nullsec. You've probably never stepped foot outside of Highsec.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#73 - 2012-04-24 06:34:44 UTC
Cosmic Fart wrote:
Phigmeta wrote:
Often in Eve we are told by CCP, "EVE IS REAL" but even more often we see that the only thing that is truly real is 2 things.


1) CCP is only really driven by money and will throw anyone under the bus to get it.

2) Eve "politics" are driven by sad little manchilds that need to get outdoors more often.

Mittani did something special with CSM6, he united the CSM and in doing that he united the EVE player base towards a better tomorrow. This FORCED ... yes FORCED ccp into changing the direction of eve from WOW in space to improving what we know is our sandbox.

And what the EVE community has built, CCP and their childmen seek to destroy.

Look I didn't want some of the CSM6 folks on CSM7, I somewhat didn't want to see Sellene to be reelected. That being said He is a good example of what CSM SHOULD BE.

And Issler is an example of what CSM7 will degrade to given the option to continue in the style of CSM3. 10,000 eve players said, "we want unity, we want what was CSM6

Issler says, "We want WORDS not actions, we want separation not unity, we want space politics not progress"

YOU DON'T Speak for the 10,000 .... you speak for yourself. Please do it alone and not in the CSM7

I ask the CSM7 leaders to Stand up and say to these minority elected such as Issler, " Get in line or GTFO"



Blah blah blah,

No one FORCED CCP to do a damn thing. People who unsubbed caught the attention of CCP. CCP realized something needed to be changed because of the mass exodus. Had nothing to do with mittens or the CSM. Get over your delusions.


I'm pretty sure it had less to do with the handful of "righteous fury" unsubs and more to do with the people trying to burn down Sony's relationship with CCP to get at someone they hate.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Iri'yana
Corvus Technologies
#74 - 2012-04-24 09:37:31 UTC
Phigmeta wrote:

Issler says, "We want WORDS not actions, we want separation not unity, we want space politics not progress"

YOU DON'T Speak for the 10,000 .... you speak for yourself. Please do it alone and not in the CSM7

I ask the CSM7 leaders to Stand up and say to these minority elected such as Issler, " Get in line or GTFO"


I can somehow aggree with Issler on this point ... at least if I understand him correctly.

EVE is played by lots of different players, who do different things in-game and also want different things. And each of this styles of play should have a representation on the CSM, not just the big 0.0 alliances or combat-pvp guys. The effect of this: seperation of a kind. But good seperation ... that needs discussion to reach a compromise and provides views on a topic from different angles. So esentially what politics should be all about. And if politics is done right you also will have progress that everybody in-game can life with to some degree.

Now, Issler thinks of himself as a High-Sec representative. Nothing wrong with that ... esp. as I'm also living in High-Sec at the moment (getting back into the game). And yes, he does not speak for the 10.000 of Mittani voters and I don't think he should. Variety, plurality and difference in opinions is always good.

Oh, and please don't call him minority elected just because he got fewer votes than a power-block representative. High-Sec dwellers rarely participate as much in CSM or the meta-game and don't have as good "mobilization" numbers. But they are not the 1% and you're not the 99% ... to use theese rather exaggerated terms of current RL political discussion.
Naj Panora
The Seekers of Ore
#75 - 2012-04-24 13:34:00 UTC
Phigmeta wrote:
Often in Eve we are told by CCP, "EVE IS REAL" but even more often we see that the only thing that is truly real is 2 things.


1) CCP is only really driven by money and will throw anyone under the bus to get it.

2) Eve "politics" are driven by sad little manchilds that need to get outdoors more often.

Mittani did something special with CSM6, he united the CSM and in doing that he united the EVE player base towards a better tomorrow. This FORCED ... yes FORCED ccp into changing the direction of eve from WOW in space to improving what we know is our sandbox.

And what the EVE community has built, CCP and their childmen seek to destroy.

Look I didn't want some of the CSM6 folks on CSM7, I somewhat didn't want to see Sellene to be reelected. That being said He is a good example of what CSM SHOULD BE.

And Issler is an example of what CSM7 will degrade to given the option to continue in the style of CSM3. 10,000 eve players said, "we want unity, we want what was CSM6

Issler says, "We want WORDS not actions, we want separation not unity, we want space politics not progress"

YOU DON'T Speak for the 10,000 .... you speak for yourself. Please do it alone and not in the CSM7

I ask the CSM7 leaders to Stand up and say to these minority elected such as Issler, " Get in line or GTFO"

Hey got an idea, throw Mittani in jail. He isn't good enough to lick the dog **** off my boot after his performance at fanfest. Sorry your candidate ****** up and you wasted your vote on him.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#76 - 2012-04-24 21:34:51 UTC
Naj Panora wrote:
Phigmeta wrote:
Often in Eve we are told by CCP, "EVE IS REAL" but even more often we see that the only thing that is truly real is 2 things.


1) CCP is only really driven by money and will throw anyone under the bus to get it.

2) Eve "politics" are driven by sad little manchilds that need to get outdoors more often.

Mittani did something special with CSM6, he united the CSM and in doing that he united the EVE player base towards a better tomorrow. This FORCED ... yes FORCED ccp into changing the direction of eve from WOW in space to improving what we know is our sandbox.

And what the EVE community has built, CCP and their childmen seek to destroy.

Look I didn't want some of the CSM6 folks on CSM7, I somewhat didn't want to see Sellene to be reelected. That being said He is a good example of what CSM SHOULD BE.

And Issler is an example of what CSM7 will degrade to given the option to continue in the style of CSM3. 10,000 eve players said, "we want unity, we want what was CSM6

Issler says, "We want WORDS not actions, we want separation not unity, we want space politics not progress"

YOU DON'T Speak for the 10,000 .... you speak for yourself. Please do it alone and not in the CSM7

I ask the CSM7 leaders to Stand up and say to these minority elected such as Issler, " Get in line or GTFO"

Hey got an idea, throw Mittani in jail. He isn't good enough to lick the dog **** off my boot after his performance at fanfest. Sorry your candidate ****** up and you wasted your vote on him.


Why don't you curse Mittani with your pagan magic? It sure worked for that other guy.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Naj Panora
The Seekers of Ore
#77 - 2012-04-25 04:02:56 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Naj Panora wrote:
Phigmeta wrote:
Often in Eve we are told by CCP, "EVE IS REAL" but even more often we see that the only thing that is truly real is 2 things.


1) CCP is only really driven by money and will throw anyone under the bus to get it.

2) Eve "politics" are driven by sad little manchilds that need to get outdoors more often.

Mittani did something special with CSM6, he united the CSM and in doing that he united the EVE player base towards a better tomorrow. This FORCED ... yes FORCED ccp into changing the direction of eve from WOW in space to improving what we know is our sandbox.

And what the EVE community has built, CCP and their childmen seek to destroy.

Look I didn't want some of the CSM6 folks on CSM7, I somewhat didn't want to see Sellene to be reelected. That being said He is a good example of what CSM SHOULD BE.

And Issler is an example of what CSM7 will degrade to given the option to continue in the style of CSM3. 10,000 eve players said, "we want unity, we want what was CSM6

Issler says, "We want WORDS not actions, we want separation not unity, we want space politics not progress"

YOU DON'T Speak for the 10,000 .... you speak for yourself. Please do it alone and not in the CSM7

I ask the CSM7 leaders to Stand up and say to these minority elected such as Issler, " Get in line or GTFO"

Hey got an idea, throw Mittani in jail. He isn't good enough to lick the dog **** off my boot after his performance at fanfest. Sorry your candidate ****** up and you wasted your vote on him.


Why don't you curse Mittani with your pagan magic? It sure worked for that other guy.

Wow this shows your intelligence. Pagan just means not of the Christian faith family. ******* ignorant fucks.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-04-25 05:12:15 UTC
Mittens threw himself under the bus.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#79 - 2012-04-25 11:43:44 UTC
Quote:
2) Eve is played by sad little manchilds that need to get outdoors more often.




Fixed it for you
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#80 - 2012-04-25 13:29:39 UTC
Naj Panora wrote:

Wow this shows your intelligence. Pagan just means not of the Christian faith family. ******* ignorant fucks.


look at this theist talking about ignorance