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There should be payment / subscription options for casual players
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Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-04 15:13:14 UTC
I work five days per week and only have maybe 4-6 hours to invest in Eve per week, and only if I want to pew-pew in some spaceships. Some weeks I prefer to spend my time doing something in RL like seeing friends or exercising. Yeah, very atypical of an Eve player.

But it sucks that I have to pay $15 per month, the same amount as a hardcore, basement-dweller who can sink 12+ hours per day into the game. Obviously the basement-dweller is getting much more utility out of his dollars than I am. This especially hurts if you choose to run with alt accounts. I can't really justify spending $30-$45 per month on a game that I might play for only 20 hours.

Can CCP look at alternative methods of paying or subscribing to the game? I'd rather go F2P and pay for "premium" content that I can use at my convenience.
Stoogie
Cadre Assault Force
#2 - 2012-04-04 15:15:24 UTC
No
Kisumii
Astral Acquisitions Inc.
#3 - 2012-04-04 15:17:37 UTC
Stoogie wrote:
No


I actually LOLed at this, you caught me off guard.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#4 - 2012-04-04 15:18:39 UTC
What makes you so special Captain Entitlement?

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Eri Em
#5 - 2012-04-04 15:19:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Eri Em
Soon™

70% of games are FTP, just wait for it.
hermot
The No One Cares Corp
#6 - 2012-04-04 15:21:12 UTC
what a terrible idea
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-04 15:22:59 UTC
The hardcore? They have multiple accounts up to 12 a pop.

-Vix

SWA Instructor, Commander Select Currently being blamed as SWA's CEO SWA PVP Program
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-04-04 15:24:14 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I work five days per week and only have maybe 4-6 hours to invest in Eve per week, and only if I want to pew-pew in some spaceships. Some weeks I prefer to spend my time doing something in RL like seeing friends or exercising. Yeah, very atypical of an Eve player.

But it sucks that I have to pay $15 per month, the same amount as a hardcore, basement-dweller who can sink 12+ hours per day into the game. Obviously the basement-dweller is getting much more utility out of his dollars than I am. This especially hurts if you choose to run with alt accounts. I can't really justify spending $30-$45 per month on a game that I might play for only 20 hours.

Can CCP look at alternative methods of paying or subscribing to the game? I'd rather go F2P and pay for "premium" content that I can use at my convenience.


theres a game for this and its even free to play. Called Star Trek Online

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#9 - 2012-04-04 15:25:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
The only form of F2P outisde of PLEX is confined to stations. Change market orders at restricted levels enjoy some non space careers such as lab technician or factory worker.

And Akira you're not very bright thinking walking around is shelved.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-04-04 15:26:44 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
[quote=Kaivar Lancer]

theres a game for this and its even free to play. Called Star Trek Online


Hmmmm, Star Trek is kinda too girly for me. I have an account on LOTRO which is F2P + MT, but I prefer my sci-fi and Eve's nastiness, as evidenced in this thread. Twisted
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#11 - 2012-04-04 15:27:30 UTC
Let me guess... If they gave you 50% off for being special, you'd still want the full '100%' skill-train speed that everyone else gets...

Terrible idea.
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-04-04 15:29:06 UTC
There is... Cause I have the same issue.

It's called a sub fee.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-04 15:29:11 UTC
Hiram Alexander wrote:
Let me guess... If they gave you 50% off for being special, you'd still want the full '100%' skill-train speed that everyone else gets...

Terrible idea.


Actually I wouldn't mind a skill-train penalty in exchange for a discount. 50% for 50% sounds fair. Idea
Omu Matol
Repo.
#14 - 2012-04-04 15:29:24 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I work five days per week and only have maybe 4-6 hours to invest in Eve per week, and only if I want to pew-pew in some spaceships. Some weeks I prefer to spend my time doing something in RL like seeing friends or exercising. Yeah, very atypical of an Eve player.

But it sucks that I have to pay $15 per month, the same amount as a hardcore, basement-dweller who can sink 12+ hours per day into the game. Obviously the basement-dweller is getting much more utility out of his dollars than I am. This especially hurts if you choose to run with alt accounts. I can't really justify spending $30-$45 per month on a game that I might play for only 20 hours.

Can CCP look at alternative methods of paying or subscribing to the game? I'd rather go F2P and pay for "premium" content that I can use at my convenience.



Serious? You basically turn your nose up at other people who play this game, then ask for their support for you to play at a cheaper rate? $30-45 a month, is 2-3 accounts. Sorry that's not what I'd describe as a super casual player. Quit whining and go play with your kiddie friends and take a long jump off a short pier. (in game)
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#15 - 2012-04-04 15:29:28 UTC
Make lots of isk and give it to me and I will buy a plex for you. Now your wish is granted, your game is free to play.


I too work 5 days a week, sometimes with overtime. I also go to school for the last 3 workdays while I study during the other 4 days (and sometimes that isn't even enough time). I leave the house before first light and I get home well after dark. Sometimes I don't even get to log in and play for a given week. But I've never felt that the price was unjustified. 4-5 hours a week comes out to 12-15 hours a month which equates to roughly $1 an hour. How many other hobbies can you think of that are that cheap.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
Eric Konway
Tritanium Wolf Mercenaries
#16 - 2012-04-04 15:31:00 UTC
To the OP: You have to realize what your getting for that 15 a month your only getting 20 hours out of. Unlike in other MMO's where you have to play to progress in levels, EVE has the benefit of offline training. This means your not falling behind skill wise of a hardcore player (not counting implants). Even if you have less expensive equipment (which isn't as important as skills if you know how to fit ships effectively) you can still run with fleetmates in whatever they do. In WoW, if you fall behind buddies in level, then your S.O.L. . I won't get into how F2P can go horribly wrong in a system built on P2P, but rest assured EVE is not the place for that.
Regards,
-Konway
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#17 - 2012-04-04 15:31:42 UTC
I used to dissapear 9 months from eve at a time and only got to see it once a month.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-04-04 15:34:05 UTC
Omu Matol wrote:
Serious? You basically turn your nose up at other people who play this game, then ask for their support for you to play at a cheaper rate? $30-45 a month, is 2-3 accounts. Sorry that's not what I'd describe as a super casual player. Quit whining and go play with your kiddie friends and take a long jump off a short pier. (in game)


It's the other way around. My dollars subsidise the "hardcore" players who play many more hours than I do, yet I pay the same rate.

Anyway I need to sleep.
Conu Leonida
filcaii sus paharu
#19 - 2012-04-04 15:41:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Conu Leonida
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I work five days per week and only have maybe 4-6 hours to invest in Eve per week, and only if I want to pew-pew in some spaceships. Some weeks I prefer to spend my time doing something in RL like seeing friends or exercising.

I can't really justify spending $30-$45 per month on a game that I might play for only 20 hours.

Can CCP look at alternative methods of paying or subscribing to the game? I'd rather go F2P and pay for "premium" content that I can use at my convenience.


If you can only shell out 20h of gametime each month, than you don't need 2-3 accounts.

Also, they should create this kind of subscription where special people like you:
- would need to pay 50 cents for using gates and docking into stations
- would need to pay 75 cents to pull missions and use industry/medical/LP store facilities
- won't be able to train skills when logged out of EVE
- shooting and reloading the guns/missile bays would cost 1 cent
- changing fits would cost 10 cents

Otherwise, nice troll... here's a biscuit. Sorry I can't buy more food, since I use all my money to pay EVE.
Ezurae
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-04-04 15:44:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Ezurae
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Omu Matol wrote:
Serious? You basically turn your nose up at other people who play this game, then ask for their support for you to play at a cheaper rate? $30-45 a month, is 2-3 accounts. Sorry that's not what I'd describe as a super casual player. Quit whining and go play with your kiddie friends and take a long jump off a short pier. (in game)


It's the other way around. My dollars subsidise the "hardcore" players who play many more hours than I do, yet I pay the same rate.

Anyway I need to sleep.


you are always free to play more. noone is forcing you to play just 4-5 hours a week, noone is forcing you to play 2-3 accounts at the same time during that... You pay for access to this game, the servers, all your stuff being stored etc. A lot of that is being used by you even when you arent online (can ccp delete your stuff after you go offline?? ). Its definately your choice if you want to use the ability to play this game for the full 716 hours you could every month or if you just use 20 of those.

If 20 hours of your hobby arent worth 30-45 dollars each month then just reduce the number of accounts or stop playing eve completely...


to ccp: i know deleting stuff always sucks, so as soon as he gives you the ok to delete his stuff every time he logs off, why dont you just move all of his possessions to me instead. I'll gladly pay each month for you keeping track of "his" stuff as soon as it belongs to me.


edit: i almost forgot:
Quote:
I work five days per week
Holy mother of god, you work FIVE days per week? OH MY FU**ING GOD, you are so awesome dude, I've never heard of ANYONE that works that much.... WOW
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