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Belt rats no longer perma tankable by third party ship?
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Zetaomega333
High Flyers
#1 - 2012-04-04 09:07:26 UTC
Seems that iv been hearing from a few of my miners that thier rat tanks are having problems keeping the rats on them, i personally just saw a few cruisers switch from my tank which had full agro to my hulk. Warped out and back again with the hulk but they switched again. Nothing in the patch notes about this, is it a bug? Is anyone else seeing this?
Dyniss
KarmaFleet University
#2 - 2012-04-04 09:19:18 UTC
This empire or somewhere else? Cause I have really never had a problem tanking belt rats in a hulk
Zetaomega333
High Flyers
#3 - 2012-04-04 09:25:36 UTC
Dyniss wrote:
This empire or somewhere else? Cause I have really never had a problem tanking belt rats in a hulk


Im speaking of nullsec mining.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#4 - 2012-04-04 11:55:43 UTC
Belt rats have always been liable to switch targets (they certainly did this in 2006). My experience was that the smaller the rat, the more likely it was to retarget.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-04-04 13:17:06 UTC
Are the rat tanks sitting still after gaining aggression? Or are they flying off into the sunset? Rats will not mindlessly follow someone - if the rat tank flies too far away from the rat's spawn point, the rats will reset and target someone else.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#6 - 2012-04-04 17:56:57 UTC
Spawn mechanics were changed. Perhaps this is what you are seeing.
Adunh Slavy
#7 - 2012-04-04 20:55:29 UTC
Was one of the rats a rat miner/hauler? Sometimes those groups will jump around a belt and when they spawn, they lock whatever is close.

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Zetaomega333
High Flyers
#8 - 2012-04-04 22:19:52 UTC
Taedrin wrote:
Are the rat tanks sitting still after gaining aggression? Or are they flying off into the sunset? Rats will not mindlessly follow someone - if the rat tank flies too far away from the rat's spawn point, the rats will reset and target someone else.



Well i had picked them up after the spawn and then set the soaker to orbit a roid near where the hulk was mining, that was some 60 km away from the spawn, I guess ill just leave the soaker where he is when they get agro. Its just a first time iv seen this in 4 months.
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#9 - 2012-04-05 04:54:02 UTC
I guess each rat has it's own boredom level, getting tired of being away from it's spawn point, so goes back to it and finds a new target.

In my experience, the tank stays at the same spot (or orbits a roid at the spawn point) and the rats stay on the tank. I've run hundreds of ops over the years this way, and not had the rats change target.
Zetaomega333
High Flyers
#10 - 2012-04-05 08:20:49 UTC
Emma Royd wrote:
I guess each rat has it's own boredom level, getting tired of being away from it's spawn point, so goes back to it and finds a new target.

In my experience, the tank stays at the same spot (or orbits a roid at the spawn point) and the rats stay on the tank. I've run hundreds of ops over the years this way, and not had the rats change target.




yeh im just going to alter my prefrence to have my tank ship near the miners.
Raven Ether
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-04-05 11:24:21 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Spawn mechanics were changed. Perhaps this is what you are seeing.



Care to clarify?
Javajunky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-04-06 02:42:58 UTC
Rats will change targets, but it's a very rare random occurence. It's happen to me only a couple of times in 2.5 yeasr but its a miniscule chance. Correct on the fact that if the tank wanders too far from the belt - rats will reset though.