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Dalomar Avalhar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-04-03 14:38:33 UTC
I dont see the Muninn around anymore!
Has it become obsulete after the Tier 3 BC came around? what are pilots using it for now - discuss
Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#2 - 2012-04-03 14:40:20 UTC
I confirm that, Muninn is an extincted species. Haven't seen one for months.
Dead Loss
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-04-03 14:56:30 UTC
I use my munnin for pve and it works like crazy ... running angel plexes in a munnin is heaven.
Dalomar Avalhar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-04-03 15:01:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Dalomar Avalhar
Dead Loss wrote:
I use my munnin for pve and it works like crazy ... running angel plexes in a munnin is heaven.

yeah i was thinking pve aswell. But i run serp plexes in an ishtar though.

Thing is corp mate has one he cant use an i can. but for pvp it seems best with artillery and the obivous good res makes a good tank, but wouldnt make that much dps as a tier 3 bc - im just guessing here as i have never flown it before.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#5 - 2012-04-03 15:15:10 UTC
A couple of null corps use to run huge muninn alpha fleets. Maybe it was brick squad or black watch.

As for if that were replaced with the tornado, I'm not sure. It's possible, but remember muninns are cruisers with t2 resists, that is a little better than t1 battlecruisers for survivability, plus muninns still have the drone bay. My guess, tornadoes may out dps the muninn (would also depend on Target size), but the muninn has better chance to fight longer, which means for a long nul roam, the muninn isn't bad.
Torothin
Crimson Dawn Enterprises
#6 - 2012-04-03 15:38:01 UTC
Apparently the Munin also does reasonably well as an AHAC. I have yet to see them used but I have heard they are a decent option.
Dead Loss
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-04-03 16:16:27 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
A couple of null corps use to run huge muninn alpha fleets. Maybe it was brick squad or black watch.

As for if that were replaced with the tornado, I'm not sure. It's possible, but remember muninns are cruisers with t2 resists, that is a little better than t1 battlecruisers for survivability, plus muninns still have the drone bay. My guess, tornadoes may out dps the muninn (would also depend on Target size), but the muninn has better chance to fight longer, which means for a long nul roam, the muninn isn't bad.


I would honestly take Munnin slightly lower DPS and much higher tank vs paper thin high DPS tornado for small gangs.

Fit the munnin nano and you can get a good enough agility and speed, and you can easily hit 50-60 k ehp with the right fit.

It doesn't compare with the vaga but it's still a really good ship.

We did a small roam in null sec the other day, and while my gang mates lost their smaller ships, I actually managed to tank and survive a 8 man gang, and evade them. Most likely they did a mistake and I wouldn't put it all on the ship, but it's a good ship. Like most forgotten ships, it turns out they are quite useful in the sense that most people don't suspect them anymore.

Bit like the prophecy in a way...
Dalomar Avalhar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-04-03 16:45:27 UTC
Torothin wrote:
Apparently the Munin also does reasonably well as an AHAC. I have yet to see them used but I have heard they are a decent option.


I would also say their inherent number of low slots makes a good AHAC

Thx for the input ppl, i think i will have a go at it - i like the rupture aswell so muninn would be good
Dead Loss
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-04-03 17:31:33 UTC
Then again, if you have it trained, the Broadsword is a seriously sick ship.

I mean, even if you don't use it for the warp bubble, just as a combat ship, you can tank it to 70-80k ehp with some decent DPS if you do it well.

That one though is less agile.
Othran
Route One
#10 - 2012-04-03 18:17:19 UTC
Torothin wrote:
Apparently the Munin also does reasonably well as an AHAC. I have yet to see them used but I have heard they are a decent option.


They're not.

For AHACs a Fleet Stabber is better and cheaper if you can't fly anything other than minnie.

Zealots of course make the Muninn look fairly useless - which it is unless you need specific damage types.
Rens Cheque
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-04-03 18:26:10 UTC
Black Legion runs large Munin fleets last I knew.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#12 - 2012-04-03 18:36:44 UTC
Dead Loss wrote:
Then again, if you have it trained, the Broadsword is a seriously sick ship.

I mean, even if you don't use it for the warp bubble, just as a combat ship, you can tank it to 70-80k ehp with some decent DPS if you do it well.

That one though is less agile.


You can tank it higher, 100k or more dps. Also, please.... Please tell me you know about scripting your warp bubble. If you have a hic in high sec and are not using one or two scripted bubbles... Please, stop war deccing people and learn more about the game or you will be killed!
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-04-04 00:42:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Mfume Apocal
Dalomar Avalhar wrote:
I dont see the Muninn around anymore!


My alliance + GIANTSBANE. and maybe one or two others are the only ones who use Muninns as a regular fleet comp.

Quote:
Has it become obsulete after the Tier 3 BC came around?


Nope.

Quote:
what are pilots using it for now - discuss


Same stuff we used it for before Crucible, medium to large(30-90 man) gangs, fighting up to around 100-240 dudes.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-04 02:35:38 UTC
lol, muninn....
forget balancing, ccp should just remove it from the game and put in a new ship that might actually be useful.

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Alec Enderas
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#15 - 2012-04-04 09:08:47 UTC
you meant Munn ?

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Munn

I am not old, just bitter.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-04-04 11:03:42 UTC  |  Edited by: St Mio
Oops
Dalomar Avalhar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-04-04 11:18:28 UTC
Unimaginative Guy
Dutch Squad
#18 - 2012-04-04 11:40:03 UTC
I dont like it because it has warped armor resisys(which it uses) and not enough mids for shields(unless you are running 0 tackle than MAYBE it will work)
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-04-04 11:48:47 UTC
St Mio wrote:
No no no!

http://zettai-ryouiki.com/eve/warning_muninns.png


Most informative post on the forums right now, to be quite honest.

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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-04-04 21:40:20 UTC
over priced ruptures with an extra turret......

need to say more?

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