Ships & Modules

Have you ever seen what happens when a couple super carriers land ontop of a group dreadnaughts in siege? Lets say the small fish doesnt last long.

Actually, the prices woul go up. Less JFs are being made for the demand of JFs. T2 Dreads are being made, so therefore EVERYONE is making them so the lack of minerals on the market due to the demand in them ill make the prices go up for a short while. Prices would level out once the demand became steady.

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FFS CCP let me quote more.

Brutorans is right. 1.1b is cheap to be honest. I have a wide variety of ships ranging from T2 fitted rifters to Capital ships and a Jump Freighter. Every bit I have earned on my own with absolutely no funding what-so-ever from a single alliance I have been in to this day. I have personally never used my carrier for some logistical firey ball of death in the battlefield. I would always field a dreadnaught of some kind.

The amount of isk dumped hourly into the game is unreal. You have a delicate program that dumps isk directly into your wallet. Run and site and get 50m in less then an hour. Run a good incursion with a good group of people (random I might add) and you are looking at 150-220m an hour. Trade, not scam, trade and you are looking at 10m a day to 500m a day. Depending on how addiment you are on that task. Isk is generated in so many ways, it isnt even funny. I have a large assortement of items dumped purely into a collection of mine that honestly. Don't even phase my wallet. I still PVP, I still make isk. Sad part is, I am the average user. Buy a dread to bash a pos? Aight, do we have the proper coverage/numbers to pull this without losing them? People lose these "toys" when they get careless.

VIRII is a small corp and can deploy 20 dreadnaughts if so pleased. Thing is easy as long as a corp works towards it. Corps do not apply themselves into capital ships though. If they did they would close on this gap and start to make a stairwell of capital ships in use versus 1-5 dreads/carriers to the large alliances 100-200 easily fieldable dreads. All HS corporations have to do is apply themselves and start a naplist as well. This would easily counter a single alliance with ease. However, they dont. Hence the gap.

I think it would prove to be interesting if the HS corporations could roll out in 2k-3k dreads. Use proper bait methods and just pummel through the supercap population. It is what should have been done a long time ago.

It's a delicate balance isn't it? I really don't know why anyone would suggest another cap ship at this point when sc's vs. dreads are where they are.

I'll go against the grain on the siege module. I don't think matching with a triage module is a good argument for a 5-min siege. A 5-min timer is damn low risk when you compare it to what you're getting out of it while in triage, what's more is that I think it's more appropriate to triage since on triage fits you'll typically find a much weaker tank than a combat fit on carriers, the same isn't true for siege.

I think that attackers should have a higher risk, and that risk reflects well with a 10-min siege timer. Frankly even with a 10-min timer, there's only been one case I can remember where it put a dread to death from a pos it was attacking. A Phoenix that died on a tower I'd set up :chestbeat:, but that's it. True more often the risk will come from an enemy fleet, but again that should come with the territory. You want to put out the dreads and go on the offensive, you should have no problem putting your huevos out on the table for another 5min per cycle as well.

As far as the dread's dps, I haven't been flying them that long but they seem pretty close to the mark as compared with an SC and it's addl. cost. You have the huge additional disadvantage of having to sit there, but it's a heckuva lot cheaper. I do feel though, that it's tracking penalty is a bit much while in siege, and while you might not want to make it a plexmobile, as it is it's rather defenseless vs. battleships. I think I'd keep the in-siege damage near the same as it is now, but raise it quite a bit while out of siege. It just seems silly that the thing only does battleship level dps out of siege with terrible tracking .

And the tank, that's a rough one. When I think of increasing the thing's tank, I think of all the many, many times dreads just escaped our pos's by incapping that last point after their support had killed off all the dictors. That sliver of gameplay seems close to balanced as it had me thinking how I could have set up the pos just a little better, but if you increase dread's tank, well, I guess I wouldn't have to worry myself about it anymore. So, if you want to increase the tank of the dreads for other reasons, I think in the back of your head you have to consider pos/mods rebalance at some point if you haven't already.