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[PROPOSAL] - Please give us a more realistic feeling how big the ships we fly are.
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Michael Foreman
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2012-04-03 12:51:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Michael Foreman
Hi everyone,

Is it possible to get a better feel and look on how big ships in EVE are when docked in a station and while being in Captain's Quarters mode. Very often I don't feel the proportions in relation to the pilot.

I give you following example:

When looking at the Ishtar compared with the Hulk, my first impression is that the Ishtar is bigger than the Hulk but in reality (as EVE IS REAL) the Hulk has a 509m long axis while the Ishtar has a 218m long axis.

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/1742/2012040309.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6517/201204030944.jpg

Another example:

A Cheetah with a 70m long axis looks as big as a Wreathe with a 409 m long axis.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/469/201204031150.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8997/201204030946.jpg

I personally would like to have the same feeling as when looking from up close to the Eiffel Tower in Paris.
I really would like to feel that the human body is like 1.8 meter and a Magnate for example is like 26 times bigger.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7408/humanscale.jpg
credits Kabukky on youtube

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3620/magnetcomapredtohumansc.jpg
credits Kabukky on youtube

Kabukky's youtube movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0O3Xl6a4wc
Another ship size comparison movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evD5xqIHLmI&feature=relmfu

Thanx alot.

Michael Foreman

PS/ Sorry for the picture links. Didn't find out how to insert them in the thread. I don't think we can on the eve forums tbh.
Eidric
Private Shelter for Mad People
#2 - 2012-04-03 20:37:17 UTC
Initially all ships were at correct proportions - that was changed so people with frigate could actually see their frigates in hangar.

And now you want to change it back?
Zirise
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-04-03 20:41:15 UTC
Eidric wrote:
Initially all ships were at correct proportions - that was changed so people with frigate could actually see their frigates in hangar.

And now you want to change it back?


Now that ship spinning is back, yea it should be changed back to give the sense of scale.
Tidurious
Blatant Alt Corp
#4 - 2012-04-03 21:11:38 UTC
I agree, the ship sizes are a bit off. However, is this something that really has much of an impact? I can see it being way down the list in the things-to-get-to-eventually column, but I think that there are much more important issues at hand at the moment.
Michael Foreman
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-04-03 21:37:14 UTC
Tidurious wrote:
I agree, the ship sizes are a bit off. However, is this something that really has much of an impact? I can see it being way down the list in the things-to-get-to-eventually column, but I think that there are much more important issues at hand at the moment.


EVE IS REAL :)
Mark Target
The Azerick Corporation
#6 - 2012-04-07 19:55:24 UTC
Ships already don't look like they're centered on the pad when you're viewing them from CQ so you could just argue they're parked closer or farther from your CQ "dockpoint?"

anyway...you wanna fix a scale issue? fix the scale of stations...they look WAY too small in comparison to
The number of ships that could potentially be docked inside and some of the ships coming out of the station exit point look WAY too big to have been inside the station to begin with.

I'd like to see stations as ENORMOUS things that when you're right up on top of them they fill your screen. I'd like to see a station have several grids that's how big I'd like to see them. spare me the lecture on grid mechanics...just make it work ;)
Davon Mandra'thin
Das Collective
#7 - 2012-04-07 20:53:06 UTC
Apsolutely supported.

This is something that has always annoyed me. It would be a very simple change to make seeing as that is the way the view from captains quarters was innitially designed and implemented.

Please, make it happen.
See if you can get some CSM support.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#8 - 2012-04-07 21:00:15 UTC
Yes, please.

At the moment I can't really see the differance between a battlecruiser and my Charon. I think a sence of scale is important in the captains quarters, because its almost impossible to get a good sence of scale in space (for obvious reasons).

And seeing as it would be a really simple change to make, and would (hopefully) take very little of CCP's time to implement, it should be given some degree of priority. No need to put off the simple and easy changes.

I dont see a down point to this one.

Supported.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-04-08 22:13:00 UTC
I support this proposal, although i'm pretty sure CCP has their reasons why things the way they are right now.

Protip: never use imageshack to host your images, some people cba to register.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-04-09 08:42:49 UTC
yes

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Davon Mandra'thin
Das Collective
#11 - 2012-04-15 14:54:43 UTC
Would be nice to see a little more support in this thread.

For some reason people seem to flock towards the massive game changing (or frankly stupid) threads. When its the little and quick changes like these that need the support because there is actually a chance of them being implemented.
Kaine Janeway
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-04-15 15:10:04 UTC
I very much support, sometimes it feels like some immersion is lost due to this. Every ship looks equally big (or small)
+1
Jupix
MuroBBS United
#13 - 2012-04-15 16:02:50 UTC
This bugged me ever since I got into my first battleship. Later it was ridiculous that my Raven dwarfed my Chimera.

Also, the stations need fixing even more than the ships, as detailed by the above poster...

Stuff just looks so underwhelmingly small in eve.

Also, I fail !
Michael Foreman
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2012-04-19 08:43:43 UTC
Mark Target wrote:
Ships already don't look like they're centered on the pad when you're viewing them from CQ so you could just argue they're parked closer or farther from your CQ "dockpoint?"

anyway...you wanna fix a scale issue? fix the scale of stations...they look WAY too small in comparison to
The number of ships that could potentially be docked inside and some of the ships coming out of the station exit point look WAY too big to have been inside the station to begin with.

I'd like to see stations as ENORMOUS things that when you're right up on top of them they fill your screen. I'd like to see a station have several grids that's how big I'd like to see them. spare me the lecture on grid mechanics...just make it work ;)



Totally agree!