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New dev blog: Team Security - Now with 100% more Anti-RMT

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Larofeticus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2012-04-03 19:16:36 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
We have and will continue to discuss changes to trials but our approach has always been to try and design a game that is engaging for people rather than one that's hard for botters if that makes sense.


Why must you focus on the least interesting part of my post? You guys must be up to your armpits in network and graph theory papers and instead you focus on the trial accounts which are almost trivial to abstract right out of the model.

Isk faucet character(s) -> vault character(s) -> RMT customer butte(s)

Unless there is some way for the trial accounts to make RMT magnitude amounts of isk, then they can only be an intermetdiate step between faucet and butte.
Bagehi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#102 - 2012-04-03 19:17:11 UTC
Kick em in the teeth Sreegs.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#103 - 2012-04-03 19:17:12 UTC
burn them with fire!

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Stragak
#104 - 2012-04-03 19:18:35 UTC
Me love you long time Sreegs Big smile

"Oh look, the cat is sitting in the litter box and pooping over the side again" every time we go through these "rough patches". In good humor, and slight annoyance, Boiglio   https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238130&p=82
Clolo
Perkone
Caldari State
#105 - 2012-04-03 19:20:34 UTC
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but have you thought of running a "police auction" with all the confiscated assets?
Days Mahyisti
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#106 - 2012-04-03 19:20:38 UTC
I don't wanna be the Snitch here, but I think this guy named RANdom 01 is using a bot. I've seen him botting or what I suspect as botting always around 1 am to maybe 5 am. Me and my Corp. have seen him multiple times during Mining Operations (I was using my other Character, not this one) I leave it up to you, CCP, to decided what to do with him. Botting is not cool and unfair for the rest of us. Mei Ling Cobon-Han is my Main
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#107 - 2012-04-03 19:23:17 UTC
good work but why did it take so long to have a team dedicated to this?

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Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
#108 - 2012-04-03 19:27:55 UTC
HOT DAMN

urban dictionary: an exclamation of astonishment or approval


Quote:
On a personal note, CCP Soundwave's cosplay-fit 6pack abs have inspired me to purchase a gym membership so all of you who have expressed heartfelt concern about my physical health may now sleep easier!



May I punch the abs to see how tough they are next time at fanfest ?

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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#109 - 2012-04-03 19:28:58 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
[2) If I was going to loan someone money I'd make sure I knew who they were etc. In the cases this has popped up the person in question was a well known RMTer. There's no magic formula for this.

And what about less brazen RMTers? Should we just be taking someone's word that the isk they're loaning me (or vice versa) or the modules they're selling me or what have you aren't dirty?

Perhaps we're being overly hysterical here but this comment is treading awfully close to the "It's YOUR job to police OUR game" ground, and it has rather significant implications for a lot of ingame activity.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
Celebris Nexterra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#110 - 2012-04-03 19:30:13 UTC
Moar bot rapage plz.
SlayerOfArgus
Hermes Enterprises
#111 - 2012-04-03 19:30:18 UTC
Days Mahyisti wrote:
I don't wanna be the Snitch here, but I think this guy named RANdom 01 is using a bot. I've seen him botting or what I suspect as botting always around 1 am to maybe 5 am. Me and my Corp. have seen him multiple times during Mining Operations (I was using my other Character, not this one) I leave it up to you, CCP, to decided what to do with him. Botting is not cool and unfair for the rest of us. Mei Ling Cobon-Han is my Main


If you haven't filed a petition yet, do so.
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#112 - 2012-04-03 19:33:29 UTC
Larofeticus wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
We have and will continue to discuss changes to trials but our approach has always been to try and design a game that is engaging for people rather than one that's hard for botters if that makes sense.


Why must you focus on the least interesting part of my post? You guys must be up to your armpits in network and graph theory papers and instead you focus on the trial accounts which are almost trivial to abstract right out of the model.

Isk faucet character(s) -> vault character(s) -> RMT customer butte(s)

Unless there is some way for the trial accounts to make RMT magnitude amounts of isk, then they can only be an intermetdiate step between faucet and butte.


We don't discuss sources or methods so I commented on the part of the post that I could. You are correct that it is indeed an interesting problem which is why we were super excited to be able to work on it. Also I get to yell at Stillman all day.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#113 - 2012-04-03 19:34:47 UTC
Clolo wrote:
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but have you thought of running a "police auction" with all the confiscated assets?


It's been theorized but I don't think we'd use it in this application because in most cases the assets simply shouldn't exist so we're more focused on fixing the glitch in the economy by removing them.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#114 - 2012-04-03 19:35:10 UTC
Days Mahyisti wrote:
I don't wanna be the Snitch here, but I think this guy named RANdom 01 is using a bot. I've seen him botting or what I suspect as botting always around 1 am to maybe 5 am. Me and my Corp. have seen him multiple times during Mining Operations (I was using my other Character, not this one) I leave it up to you, CCP, to decided what to do with him. Botting is not cool and unfair for the rest of us. Mei Ling Cobon-Han is my Main


PLEX are only for snitches.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#115 - 2012-04-03 19:36:08 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
good work but why did it take so long to have a team dedicated to this?


You'd have to ask management that question. This falls under the purview of the Sr. Producer so you have CCP Unifex to thank.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#116 - 2012-04-03 19:36:39 UTC
Lemming Alpha1dash1 wrote:
HOT DAMN

urban dictionary: an exclamation of astonishment or approval


Quote:
On a personal note, CCP Soundwave's cosplay-fit 6pack abs have inspired me to purchase a gym membership so all of you who have expressed heartfelt concern about my physical health may now sleep easier!



May I punch the abs to see how tough they are next time at fanfest ?

CCP Security = Tough Guys Bear


You may only punch me in game

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#117 - 2012-04-03 19:37:38 UTC
corestwo wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
[2) If I was going to loan someone money I'd make sure I knew who they were etc. In the cases this has popped up the person in question was a well known RMTer. There's no magic formula for this.

And what about less brazen RMTers? Should we just be taking someone's word that the isk they're loaning me (or vice versa) or the modules they're selling me or what have you aren't dirty?

Perhaps we're being overly hysterical here but this comment is treading awfully close to the "It's YOUR job to police OUR game" ground, and it has rather significant implications for a lot of ingame activity.


I don't believe it has significant implications for a lot of ingame activity. When I or you run into a problem with it let us know but in the meantime just assume you can Remain Calm.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#118 - 2012-04-03 19:38:05 UTC
SlayerOfArgus wrote:
Days Mahyisti wrote:
I don't wanna be the Snitch here, but I think this guy named RANdom 01 is using a bot. I've seen him botting or what I suspect as botting always around 1 am to maybe 5 am. Me and my Corp. have seen him multiple times during Mining Operations (I was using my other Character, not this one) I leave it up to you, CCP, to decided what to do with him. Botting is not cool and unfair for the rest of us. Mei Ling Cobon-Han is my Main


If you haven't filed a petition yet, do so.


Actually just use the report bot feature in the client. It's more streamlined.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012
Raivi
State War Academy
Caldari State
#119 - 2012-04-03 19:39:54 UTC
Great job Sreegs. Looks like this is having a great effect already and if you guys can keep doing it every day it should be a game changer.

Also big thanks to CCP Unifex for bringing the security team back!
Jieirn Devau
Aperture Reach
Immediate Destruction
#120 - 2012-04-03 19:40:03 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:


You may only punch me in game



Is this an announcement of an official feature?