Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yes, only the few who know should be allowed to say what they think.

[sarcasm off]

Don't understand the sarcasm. If its the irony I believe the OP's debate to be idiotic, I have explained why. Therefore its a substantiated claim why I think so and not censorship.

You can of course disagree with what I say.

[sarcasm]After all an insular multiple choice process to EVE design would certainly be simpler from both players and CCP's standpoint.

In fact I suggest we leave it to CCP creating limited choice, placing them in a field, then having a cow enter the field and eventually whereever it first craps the proposal closest wins.[/sarcasm]

Bad idea, you think the forums have been bad now? You don't force people to participate and expect a positive response.

That being said, CCP needs to take a serious look at an INGAME voting system.

Want feedback on an upcoming change. Post a vote, with timelimits, send an Eve-mail, and add a simple voting interface that anyone in game can click on and vote.
This is not a replacement for voting out of game, it's an addition. If over 50% of the players never visit the forums, how the heck did you think you were going to get them to navigate to that webpage to vote?


Who knows, you might get more than 10% of the players to vote next year CCP....

The OP has a point. The few surveys that CCP has posted in the past was a start. Unfortunately those could be easily manipulated. The pop up link box on the log in screen also helps a little but since it's usually just an ad for PLEX or Magazine sales, most players probably don't even really look at it anymore.

I've always thought that surveys and CSM vote should be done on a screen that loads up right after the log in screen and when completed, has the character selection screen load. Of course it can only be completed once per account. Have it short and sweet, easily completed within a few minutes with an option to [Opt Out]. Basically it would be check boxes [yes] [no] [neutral] along with a small [comments] box for those that want to add a bit more input. If the [Opt Out] is selected, there should be a pop up box requesting confirmation with a small message informing the player they forfeit the right to voice their opinion.

There's a lot of players that don't browse the forums and most probably rarely ever look at the news listed in the character selection screen. Something like this would definitely bring it to all players attention allowing them the option to be involved or not.

CCP use this for suggestions? No wonder its all messed up ;p

Players in this game whine loudly enough when CCP changes the name of an item. Could you imagine if they were forced to have their addiction kept from them for a moment or two? There would be arson in Reykjavik.

Indeed. Most players do not give a damn; they simply play the game. If they cared enough they would bother to vote in the CSM elections, subscribe to the newsletter so they can participate in the surveys and generally try to keep up with news on the game.

No point in getting the opinion of people who don't care / know enough about the game to make an intelligent contribution .You're much more likely to get a bunch of a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a-finish type responses.

Edit: A sample newsletter can be seen here. The survey is on the right of the page; almost all the way to the bottom.

7/10

Got a lot of bites, and the idea of writing an essay to log in is pretty funny really.

You could also force people to submit business plans before they get to use manufacturing lines (that'd stop the minerals are freetards), and posts to COAD would be replaced by epic poems. There would only be about a dozen people logged in at any time, but the quality of social discourse would rival the salons of Paris and the forums of ancient Greece.

OP: Finish that bowl of Cheerios before you decide to post. Once your ears stop ringing useful thoughts may suddenly appear in your mind.

This is a bad idea.

Forcing subscribers to answer a questionaire is going to do two bad things:

1. Annoy subscribers.
2. Return survey results weighted massively in favour of whatever options are easiest to click quickly.