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Force all subscribers to have a voice

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-03 16:28:05 UTC
Instead of relying on forums for feedback ccp should have mandatory questionaires to be filled out before you are allowed to login.

So after someone logs in the survey for that day is loaded and must be completed before continuing.

Everyone should be forced to have an informed voice in game design.

Discuss.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#2 - 2012-04-03 16:28:57 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Instead of relying on forums for feedback ccp should have mandatory questionaires to be filled out before you are allowed to login.

So after someone logs in the survey for that day is loaded and must be completed before continuing.

Everyone should be forced to have an informed voice in game design.

Discuss.


You cannot force people to be well informed.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."

THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#3 - 2012-04-03 16:29:41 UTC
Sweet, an update box AND a questionnaire before I even get to the load up screen? Sign me up!

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?

Basileus Volkan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-04-03 16:32:20 UTC
The purpose of democracy (Even a pretend-democracy in a terrible internet spaceship game) isn't for "everyone" to have a "voice", it's so you can replace leaders without bloody murder all the time. Or constant Jita riots or whatever. Everything else included in the Democracy Package is just a bonus, really.
Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-04-03 16:33:23 UTC
Questionaires are flawed really. They can be worded to get the answers that the questioner wants and give that we are talking about a company here I do think they have people with the smarts to do this, or hire them.

You can not force someone to give an opinion, s just to be cantancerous they may give one that would cause disaster to the game. Though you could but a CBA option at the top and so let them bypass it altogother, or a notice saying you have the option to take part in one and allowing people to decline.
ILikeMarkets
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-04-03 16:35:04 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Instead of relying on forums for feedback ccp should have mandatory questionaires to be filled out before you are allowed to login.

So after someone logs in the survey for that day is loaded and must be completed before continuing.

Everyone should be forced to have an informed voice in game design.

Discuss.


Didn't DAoC used to do this? I loved that system, personally.

Proof that capital ships are rare in EVE: http://imgur.com/gallery/jJJE1

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#7 - 2012-04-03 16:36:02 UTC
Massive waste of time.

People enter game, sometimes they get an EULA blurb they hastily scroll to the end and click OK.

Add questionnaires and they will fill an "X" in every required field (or even use a bot to do that!) and then press OK.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-04-03 16:39:05 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Massive waste of time.

People enter game, sometimes they get an EULA blurb they hastily scroll to the end and click OK.

Add questionnaires and they will fill an "X" in every required field (or even use a bot to do that!) and then press OK.


Avoid multiple choice and require short answer/essay form. Regex can be used to prevent other abuses.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#9 - 2012-04-03 16:40:36 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Massive waste of time.

People enter game, sometimes they get an EULA blurb they hastily scroll to the end and click OK.

Add questionnaires and they will fill an "X" in every required field (or even use a bot to do that!) and then press OK.


Avoid multiple choice and require short answer/essay form. Regex can be used to prevent other abuses.


No. 1 Response: "Stop making me write essays."

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."

Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-04-03 16:41:02 UTC
How did I get into a masternerdguy thread?

*leaves with haste turning the map the right way up*
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#11 - 2012-04-03 16:44:21 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Everyone should be forced to have an informed voice in game design.
Contradiction of terms.

You're essentially asking people not to log in. That's a very bad thing to ask of them.
Bloutok
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-04-03 16:46:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloutok
I like this one

+15995238883334866.2258 times yes.

Edit to add that forcing people is not a good idea, but offer the choice :)
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-04-03 16:47:08 UTC
Feedback form, simply have in login a link to one related to account. Those that want to fill it in will, those that don't won't troll it just to be rid of it.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#14 - 2012-04-03 16:48:57 UTC
Oh masternerdguy, why oh why are you still terrible? I still remember beating you twice in a row in a frigate duel and you claiming hax were involved XD
Black Dranzer
#15 - 2012-04-03 16:54:54 UTC
Better idea: Polls on the character select screen. Completely optional, but clearly visible.

Let's try "automated feedback gathering" before we jump to "mandatory automated feedback gathering", yeah?
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-04-03 16:55:40 UTC
The phrase "Force people to..." Usually doesn't go over well or have the best intentions.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
#17 - 2012-04-03 16:57:21 UTC
If this was an idea - and I am not convinced that it even qualifies as such - it should be in the ideas forum.

Other than that, it's already gone 1st April. I can only read your post as an attempted joke. It is a terrible idea.

Good thing CCP ignore such things.
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-04-03 17:00:38 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Everyone should be forced to have an informed voice in game design.

Another budding fascist with so much promise...

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.

Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-04-03 17:02:14 UTC
Do I have to make a serious post to this idiocy?

Game design is not about ticking boxes. Not everything can be resolved with black and white choices.

The sentiment and understanding of systems with regards to different playstyles, crossover of use, or different degrees of preference means that games design follows an evolutionary process trying to bring in as many voices as possible in a dialouge that not only aids to provide understanding but follows a debate to a "collective" resolution that even may end up not being a pre-determined solution to begin with.

This is why I favour CCP's openess to discuss things with us in Blogs. And especially moreso after recommendations following incarna.

(CCP also do occasionaly send out feedback questionairres, but that is to gauge wether they are on the money.)
Pyx Jasta
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-04-03 17:05:25 UTC
Xander Riggs wrote:

No. 1 Response: "Stop making me write essays."


I don't think that would be the number one response Blink
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