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Wishlist for Trading Expansion - now with more acronyms!
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Xaqa
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-02 21:20:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Xaqa
    If CCP were to release a Trading Only Expansion, what would you like to see included?
    Tools? Added functionality? Secondary market support? Removal of price ceilings/floors? etc

    Case in point:
    I have a single app for skills, another for fittings and at least a dozen apps and websites for trading.
    There has to be a way to get some of that included/integrated with the client.

    tl;dr more trade stuff please?


    Suggestions:
  • More numbers: Whatever happened to Dr. EyjoG and his QEN?
  • Color coding market orders (yes/no/maybe so)
  • Selection of multiple orders for cancellation, etc
  • Creation of folders within the market orders window
  • Modification of the range, expiration, and quantity of existing orders
  • Bindable key(s) for modifying orders
  • Adjustable mousewheel effect on modifying market orders (instead of default .01)
  • Adjustable "invalid price" calculation in the modify order window
  • Sortable keywords/tags/filters for assets & market orders
  • Option to disable auto-refresh of the market order window
  • Optimize market interface and/or UI; faster loading/refresh/etc
  • Contract Loans (The Return of)
  • In-game bank and/or additional tools to facilitate the creation of a bank
  • "Sell All" feature
  • Remove warnings for buying items below regional average
  • Alarm when delay on order modify is over
  • A skill to decrease the delay order modification timer
  • Integrated and working stock market
  • Fix "Margin trading scams"
  • Set threshold for wallet blink
  • Price history: show the quantity of sells/buys
  • Price history: a filter for stations
  • Server-side (or Client-side) saving of your market settings (quickbar etc)
  • Set threshold for wallet blink
  • Price history: show the quantity of sells/buys
  • Price history: a filter for stations
  • Server-side (or Client-side) saving of your market settings (quickbar etc)
  • More "trade order" skills
  • Option to limit buy orders on sec status, or if not limit, then set individual price brackets based on sec status
  • A skill to be able to look at other regions' market (yes/no/maybe so)
  • A regional select box within orders overview, so you can see the orders of a certain region, including, "current region".
  • Allow PAGE DOWN / PAGE UP within the orders overview.
  • Make it possible to adjust an order within the market window
  • Display the number of available contracts while you are within the contract creation wizard.
  • Allow addition of a description in Courier Contracts; allow double clicking a form field to see its history
  • A “buy list” that tracks active buy order for an item and in which regions. Color coding options for status effects.
  • (adjustable & limited) In-game notifications for being outbid on orders
  • A search function for orders
  • Highlight assets if they are en route (like market orders are)





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Xaqa
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-04-02 21:21:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Xaqa
    The Fatties

  • Change the way market orders are resolved. If you sell for a price under the current buy, or buy above the current sell price, fill the order at the market prices, not the prices typed in by the player.

  • Creation of a billing system; for example: a trade-window where player x agrees to pay player y 500.000 ISK every week for 30 weeks; 'payable' and 'receivable' bills in wallet. Failure to pay accumulates interest (set by the players). Completed and open 'bill-agreements' viewable through the API. Possible to allow for collateral; claimable on failure to pay bills

  • "I would like to see the ability to give people things without having to contract them or use trade windows. For example, I have a package with a freight container inside it in Rens, I am sitting in Jita, and one of my corpmates happens to be passing through Rens. I want to give him the package. I can't contract it, because it has a can in it. I don't want to travel to Rens for the trade window. This feature would allow us to use dispatch logistic models at the corp or alliance level."

  • "When creating a Courier Contracts you have to enter a destination within the destination field. The case for me is, that I have all my trade locations added to locations on the station level. These stations I would like to drop into the field when creating a Courier Contracts, so I don't have to search the correct station, it would save a lot of time on creating a Courier Contracts."

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Xaqa
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-04-02 21:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Xaqa

    Sexy Graphs & Other Things - Super Mega Deluxe Edition

    Rense

    Fix the most recent day's invalid data in the graph in price history
    Overhaul the price history graphs to include usable real world technical indicators. I'd like at least the following :
  • MACD (Moving Average Convergence Divergence) - allow custom short, long, and EMA period
  • RSI (Relative Strength Index) - allow custom period
  • ADX (Average Directional Index)
  • SMA (Simple Moving Average) - allow custom period
  • EMA (Exponential Moving Average) - allow custom period
  • Williams %R - allow custom period
  • FSTO (Fast Stochastic Oscillator) - allow custom K period, custom D period
  • SSTO (Slow Stochastic Oscillator) - allow custom K period, custom D period


    • Lijhal

    Concepts
  • Resistance — a price level that may prompt a net increase of selling activity
  • Support — a price level that may prompt a net increase of buying activity
  • Breakout — the concept whereby prices forcefully penetrate an area of prior support or resistance, usually, but not always, accompanied by an increase in volume.
  • Trending — the phenomenon by which price movement tends to persist in one direction for an extended period of time
  • Average true range — averaged daily trading range, adjusted for price gaps
  • Chart pattern — distinctive pattern created by the movement of security prices on a chart
  • Dead cat bounce — the phenomenon whereby a spectacular decline in the price of a stock is immediately followed by a moderate and temporary rise before resuming its downward movement
  • Elliott wave principle and the golden ratio to calculate successive price movements and retracements
  • Fibonacci ratios — used as a guide to determine support and resistance
  • Momentum — the rate of price change
  • Point and figure analysis — A priced-based analytical approach employing numerical filters which may incorporate time references, though ignores time entirely in its construction.
  • Cycles — time targets for potential change in price action (price only moves up, down, or sideways)
  • Market Condition — the state of price movement as being in a state of range expansion or a range contraction.

    • Types of charts
  • Open-high-low-close chart — OHLC charts, also known as bar charts, plot the span between the high and low prices of a trading period as a vertical line segment at the trading time, and the open and close prices with horizontal tick marks on the range line, usually a tick to the left for the open price and a tick to the right for the closing price.
  • Candlestick chart — Of Japanese origin and similar to OHLC, candlesticks widen and fill the interval between the open and close prices to emphasize the open/close relationship. In the West, often black or red candle bodies represent a close lower than the open, while white, green or blue candles represent a close higher than the open price.
  • Line chart — Connects the closing price values with line segments.
  • Point and figure chart — a chart type employing numerical filters with only passing references to time, and which ignores time entirely in its construction.

    • Overlays (generally superimposed over the main price chart)
  • Resistance — a price level that may act as a ceiling above price
  • Support — a price level that may act as a floor below price
  • Trend line — a sloping line described by at least two peaks or two troughs
  • Channel — a pair of parallel trend lines
  • Moving average — the last n-bars of price divided by "n" -- where "n" is the number of bars specified by the length of the average. A moving average can be thought of as a kind of dynamic trend-line.
  • Bollinger bands — a range of price volatility
  • Parabolic SAR — Wilder's trailing stop based on prices tending to stay within a parabolic curve during a strong trend
  • Pivot point — derived by calculating the numerical average of a particular currency's or stock's high, low and closing prices
  • Ichimoku kinko hyo — a moving average-based system that factors in time and the average point between a candle's high and low

    • Price-based indicators (generally shown below or above the main price chart)
  • Average Directional Index — a widely used indicator of trend strength
  • Commodity Channel Index — identifies cyclical trends
  • MACD — moving average convergence/divergence
  • Momentum — the rate of price change
  • Relative Strength Index (RSI) — oscillator showing price strength
  • Stochastic oscillator — close position within recent trading range
  • Trix — an oscillator showing the slope of a triple-smoothed exponential moving average
  • %C — denotes current market environment as range expansion or contraction plus highlights ta extremes when the condition should be changing.

    • Breadth Indicators (based on statistics derived from the broad market)
  • Advance Decline Line — a popular indicator of market breadth
  • McClellan Oscillator - a popular closed-form indicator of breadth
  • McClellan Summation Index - a popular open-form indicator of breadth

    • Volume-based indicators
  • Accumulation/distribution index — based on the close within the day's range
  • Money Flow — the amount of stock traded on days the price went up
  • On-balance volume — the momentum of buying and selling stocks


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Dennmoth Ferdier
Zero Gravity Productions
#4 - 2012-04-03 00:18:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Dennmoth Ferdier
The one thing I've been crying for ages.

Ability to create folders in the orders window, name them and sort all of the orders under them as you please.

I can't be **** arsed to update 500 orders all at once. I would, however, enjoy updating one folder at a time.

It would just give some nice pacing and tidiness to the chaos that is the orders window.


Also, a refresh button for the market window.
Xaqa
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-04-03 00:30:53 UTC
Dennmoth Ferdier wrote:

Also, a refresh button for the market window.

If you turn off automatic refreshing, you'll get a Reload button in the top right of the market browser window.
I like the folder idea.

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Skadi vonNiflheim
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-04-03 00:50:09 UTC
bringing back contract loans that are manageable. in other words you give a loan set a interest rate pre what ever time you want as you wish, and for them to be automated repayments so that they pay up with a fixed amount per what time period you specified. If the person avoids pay the load by not having any isk the loan just grows and payments aren't made due to the person having noting to pay with you can change haw much isk it takes off them next time they have any. This way it will prevent people getting them with no intention of repaying and if of course the lower the sp char the more suspicious loan sharks will be of giving them the money. Might not be the greatest idea and there maybe be flaws in this plan but I think it be great for both the people in need of money and the soulless loan sharks
Skye Aurorae
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-04-03 02:03:13 UTC
Ability to change the ask range and expiration of an order.
Ability to add and remove quantity from an order.

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Krawdad
The Racket
#8 - 2012-04-03 02:43:05 UTC
I like that they changed the double-click in the order window to bring up the market view of the item. Some similar changes I would like:
Another key/bind that you could hold down so that clicking brings up the modify order menu. i.e. ctrl+click

Some key binds that modify how much the mouse wheel adjusts orders by. i.e. ctrl+wheel goes by 10s, alt+wheel goes by 100s, shift+wheel goes by 1000s.

And I'll second the support for adding folders or something similar to the Orders window.

Also, the option to turn off the auto-updating of the Orders window. It feels like it really slows down my market window if my Orders window is constantly updating when there are lots of transactions going on.
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-04-03 04:08:15 UTC
Ccp karkur has confirmed that she will look at colortagging your own market orders in the next sprint (2-4 weeks development cycle)
Brock Nelson
#10 - 2012-04-03 04:18:47 UTC
Bank

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malaire
#11 - 2012-04-03 08:53:20 UTC  |  Edited by: malaire
Dennmoth Ferdier wrote:
Also, a refresh button for the market window.

For many windows, you can refresh data by clicking on tab name.

- in Wallet -> My Wallet -> Orders click on "Orders" tabname to refresh
- in Market -> Details -> Market Data click on "Market Data" tabname to refresh

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malaire
#12 - 2012-04-03 09:06:19 UTC
As for my wishlist

- NO colorcoding of my orders in market window please (would make trading too easy)
- ability to tag my orders with keywords and then sort by tags (in wallet -> orders). folders would also work.
- fix invalid average price calculation in Modify Order window (no, my price is NOT 15678944323% or 56882% over average)

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Raven Ether
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-03 10:07:02 UTC
Just optimize the market interface to begin with, so it doesn't lock up when I try to load orders.


Also, update the market UI in general, cooler look and feel as well as better functionality.

This can be done in any expansion.
Plyn
Uncharted.
#14 - 2012-04-03 15:17:10 UTC
I am also AGAINST color coding to show your market orders. Sure it would make my life easier, but it also makes it too easy for people who are less meticulous. I like that my attention to detail actually makes a difference here.

I too would like to increase the volume I am asking for without cancelling and re-posting an order just because I wanted more and my order was about to fill.

Please add the 'Sell All Selected' option people have been asking for for a while now. Just fire it all off to the highest bidders. If no buy orders are up then have that particular item fail to sell.

Please remove the warnings for BUYING items for BELOW regional average. I can understand warning people that they are buying from a super inflated price, or selling for too low, but buying low and selling high are beneficial to the people who are executing those trades. No need to warn me that I'm getting an awesome deal, come on.
Maginica
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-04-03 15:20:17 UTC
* Automatic (or manual) highlighting of your orders in the market window (color coded)

i like this idea.

+ setting alarm sounds when operation delay on order modify is over and when other modification prices is done.
+ a skill who decrease the delay order modification
Idont Getitatall
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-04-03 15:57:49 UTC
integrated and working stock market

how to make it work? i have no idea, but a game of megacorporations yell for one :)
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#17 - 2012-04-03 16:00:46 UTC
Color coding, thats pretty nice but, maybe do it in a way where Only humans would actually be able to make use of it.
malaire
#18 - 2012-04-03 16:37:31 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
Color coding, thats pretty nice but, maybe do it in a way where Only humans would actually be able to make use of it.

Well, bots already have allmost same functionality (and traders like me who have external programs reading EVE cache).

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Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-04-03 16:57:54 UTC
Color coding buy orders where the buyer doesn't have enough isk to cover the min volume. Margin trading scams...

I have never been hit by one as I look at volume and trends, but I am indirectly affected by the negative impact they cause on the market.
Adunh Slavy
#20 - 2012-04-03 16:58:31 UTC
Change the way market orders are resolved. If you sell for a price under the current buy, or buy above the current sell price, fill the order at the market prices, not the prices typed in by the player. It would be the same as having an option "buy at market" or "sell at market".

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