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Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#41 - 2012-04-02 23:47:35 UTC
as for the test


Quote:
Agree: 2,4,5,6,7,9,12,13,16,19,22,23,26,33,35,39,41,42,43,45,46: 1 point
Disagree: 10,11,15,17,24,25,27,28,29,31,34,36,38,44,47,48,49: 1 point
Score: 38


Is that good or bad?

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Josef Djugashvilis
#42 - 2012-04-02 23:53:05 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
Man are we scraping the barrel or what with all this pc stuff. Not so sure about this one though. I've seen our wonderful starred word ******** used often but autistic? Really?
If anything more often than not I see the autistic people using their autism as a crutch (both in game and out), and when I say autistic people I really mean specifically the Asperger crowd. I've come to liken them to the ADHD's, who back in the 90's appeared to be every 1 out of 2 people. In fact I did a little research on Aspergers recently as I've been hearing the term more and more and it turns out that it and ADHD has quite an abundance of similar symptoms. Now I can't help but wonder if Aspergers is the new craze for Doctors who want to drug you with something new and expensive.



You should stick to flipping burgers

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#43 - 2012-04-02 23:57:53 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
as for the test


Quote:
Agree: 2,4,5,6,7,9,12,13,16,19,22,23,26,33,35,39,41,42,43,45,46: 1 point
Disagree: 10,11,15,17,24,25,27,28,29,31,34,36,38,44,47,48,49: 1 point
Score: 38


Is that good or bad?



According to the test it said that people with autism generally scored 32 or more with the general control being 16.5. I got a 30 myself.

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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#44 - 2012-04-03 00:02:29 UTC
i love EVE, but it exsists on the interweb, where insensitive assholes thrive.

OP and all the others who are autistic i wish you the best in life, ignore the pricks, they know no better.
Hito-Shura
Caldari Fire Demons University
#45 - 2012-04-03 00:08:05 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
as for the test


Quote:
Agree: 2,4,5,6,7,9,12,13,16,19,22,23,26,33,35,39,41,42,43,45,46: 1 point
Disagree: 10,11,15,17,24,25,27,28,29,31,34,36,38,44,47,48,49: 1 point
Score: 38


Is that good or bad?


According to my results, you strongly prefer the company of white people.
Vyl Vit
#46 - 2012-04-03 00:17:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
If you want to bat this ball around...I raised an eight-year old with Asperger's to (he's now) 22 years old. He was an honor grad in high school. Made the Dean's List in undergrad. He's now in graduate-level physics.

When I first became a parental authority "over" this kid, I was told he was high-functioning autistic, with Asperger's Syndrome. But, I'd raised two other children to adulthood by then, so I figured I'd had some experience with kids with which to make better than average observations. It wasn't long before it dawned on me the kid didn't have a disorder. He was just different. He processes information differently than "normal" people. And, most normal people today find it difficult to process information at all.

What is stunning is his memory and recall ability. He can quote me exactly from the age he was eight to today. I hate it when kids say, "But, you said..." It's even worse when they get it right. Getting it right EVERY TIME is a bit unnerving. However, it has to be marked if someone is 100% accurate in recall. Another thing I noticed is he didn't require a lot of background to dive into some rather deep subjects, which involved juggling half a dozen or more bits of information, including the plethora of extrapolations with variables that ensue. "Normal" kids required a bit of a refresher to bring them back up to speed on what was previously discussed in order to progress with a discussion.

(Discussing what? Oh, simple things like: Is the physical universe comprised entirely of waves, and do our misapprehensions create in our imaginations the existence of "matter?" Where in the universe does consciousness actually reside? What exactly is occuring during the cognitive process? Simple stuff...are humans eternally entrapped in self-imposed ignorance using warfare as a passtime as a result; a fear-based compensation?)

During his public school days he was eternally bullied and picked on. The "normal" kids targeted him early and constantly. This, of course, gave me ample ground to cover "how the self-doubting, herd mentality drives the behavior of individuals being initiated into a self-willed competitive society when their nature as a social species is cooperative, and how that is the root of abherrent behavior, such as putting others down to elevate themselves." The good stuff.

He's unable to read facial expressions and vocal inflections and how they signify an added meaning to what people say. If you say something sarcastically, he takes it literally. Of course, some things like smiling aren't a problem. Figuring out if someone's angry is a bit more difficult. Oddly enough, while being ill-treated by the average American schoolchild, they always smiled. That could get confusing. What amazes me most about him is he harbors no ill will toward anyone regardless of it all. He's literally the nicest person you'd ever want to meet. Though, he's learned his lesson well from me, he doesn't have to take any crap off of anyone. Since he's six-foot four and weighs a muscular 250 pounds, I wouldn't want to be the one on whom he finally unloads that right-cross I taught him. Ow.

I wish I could agree that "ignorance" covers this behavior you see. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. This sort of aggression is used as a social ladder in this society. There are cheers and pats on the back...knowing lulz...as it's being done. I suggest you not concern yourself with it. Enjoy the game. Let the stupidity roll down your back, as you seem to do. They aren't gonna change for themselves. They certainly won't change for you.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2012-04-03 00:35:03 UTC
in the 90s no one heard of autism, assburgers and many other diseases

SUDDENLY 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zomg 9 in 10 people have autism
just like the obesity "epidemic" suddenly everyone has a disease that no one heard of 10 or 20 years ago.

my advice, try and be like the 90s was because maybe its the food people eat and the way they don't exercise as much.
eat fatty foods like we did in the 80s and 90s, play outside every day or so
turn off your cell phone for a few hours a day ect.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-04-03 00:43:48 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
in the 90s no one heard of autism, assburgers and many other diseases

SUDDENLY 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zomg 9 in 10 people have autism
just like the obesity "epidemic" suddenly everyone has a disease that no one heard of 10 or 20 years ago.

my advice, try and be like the 90s was because maybe its the food people eat and the way they don't exercise as much.
eat fatty foods like we did in the 80s and 90s, play outside every day or so
turn off your cell phone for a few hours a day ect.

That was an 80s I missed! The 80s I remember is, nobody ate 'cause they were too busy tooting dummy dust.

On a serious note: Don't underestimate the power of dumping industrial pollutants in the air...water...soil...pesticides... Don't eat fatty foods. That's just dumb.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2012-04-03 00:51:39 UTC
Another Fun Fact, while abck i was readinga rticles (please, it was months ago, iw oudlr ather not look through all my favorites to find them, maybe later) taht theorized with Humans becoming more net-cetric and technology becoming so important, that we also see an increase in children who seem to be more psychologically and mentally inclined to using these forms of interaction (computers, internet, and the like), the articles absically theorized that an increase in the amount of "asbergers" kids may be a result of humanity adapting to a need for technology. this is also supported by the fact that asbergers symptoms also tend to match the recorded/reported behaviors of many well-known masters of their time (Nikola Tesla, Leonardo Da Vinci, etc.).

not saying it may or may not eb true, but soemthing to think about, all these kids you amke fun of for being nerds amy be more genetically inclined to the current age then you (in other words, more likely to be your boss)
Vangelios
#50 - 2012-04-03 01:05:33 UTC
Hito-Shura wrote:

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.


You are perfectly fine. What they said you have is just a label, a label they gave to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFzNeyqRico

o7

Ps.
Explore yourself.

... Each small candle Lights a corner of the dark...
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#51 - 2012-04-03 01:09:27 UTC
Vangelios wrote:


Ps.
Explore yourself.



Sounds kinky, I'll get started right away.

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Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
#52 - 2012-04-03 01:22:31 UTC
I'm as spergy as they come. I'm a 20 yr old under the table software engineer. And I do not take offense to any insults thrown my way, especially aspergers, for two reasons.

Reason 1:

Aspergers is not a disadvantage, at least not for me. I'm a 20 yr old under the table software engineer. I make three times what people my age usually make. I remember everything. I can visualize things with amazing detail. Sure I'm not very sociable, and I'm prone to sensory overload, but who cares. I can "play neurotypical" if I really want something.

(Drug pushing neurotypical psychologists like to make aspergers/autism out like some kind of horrible handicap. Don't listen to them, they're as biased and short sighted as the people who supported EST and lobotomies. Seeing some poor autistic kid put on unpleasant drugs by parents who want "normal" makes me want to cry.)

Reason 2:

Who cares what people think!?! I can't understand how some simple minded sod's opinion of me would "hurt my feelings" or make me feel bad. Name calling as a whole just seems like a means of pressuring people into group conformity by making ones differences out as a bad thing.


I'm getting tired of seeing threads like these. It's stupid.
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#53 - 2012-04-03 01:55:23 UTC
It's actually really simple.

People ridicule or hate what they don't understand. It's easier than getting to know the unknown.

Those who resort to names like Spacejew, *****, Sperg etc are nothing more than morally handicapped people with a severe lack of the human genome.
Most of them you reckognize by them dragging their knuckles over the ground while walking.
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-04-03 02:00:07 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
in the 90s no one heard of autism, assburgers and many other diseases

SUDDENLY 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zomg 9 in 10 people have autism
just like the obesity "epidemic" suddenly everyone has a disease that no one heard of 10 or 20 years ago.

my advice, try and be like the 90s was because maybe its the food people eat and the way they don't exercise as much.
eat fatty foods like we did in the 80s and 90s, play outside every day or so
turn off your cell phone for a few hours a day ect.



Could also be the fact that they re examined the guidelines of what exactly autism is. They broaden it and surprise! More people were diagnosed.

It's like if you cast a larger net you can catch more fish!
Even CDC reports reflect this in plain English... "Dear public vaccines do not cause autism... The reason more people have autism is because they redefined what it is, and who fits under it"... Seriously go look up how general the definition is now.

IT MUST BE SOMETHING IN THE AIR!!!

/sigh...
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#55 - 2012-04-03 02:25:33 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
If you want to bat this ball around...I raised an eight-year old with Asperger's to (he's now) 22 years old. He was an honor grad in high school. Made the Dean's List in undergrad. He's now in graduate-level physics.

When I first became a parental authority "over" this kid, I was told he was high-functioning autistic, with Asperger's Syndrome. But, I'd raised two other children to adulthood by then, so I figured I'd had some experience with kids with which to make better than average observations. It wasn't long before it dawned on me the kid didn't have a disorder. He was just different. He processes information differently than "normal" people. And, most normal people today find it difficult to process information at all.

What is stunning is his memory and recall ability. He can quote me exactly from the age he was eight to today. I hate it when kids say, "But, you said..." It's even worse when they get it right. Getting it right EVERY TIME is a bit unnerving. However, it has to be marked if someone is 100% accurate in recall. Another thing I noticed is he didn't require a lot of background to dive into some rather deep subjects, which involved juggling half a dozen or more bits of information, including the plethora of extrapolations with variables that ensue. "Normal" kids required a bit of a refresher to bring them back up to speed on what was previously discussed in order to progress with a discussion.

(Discussing what? Oh, simple things like: Is the physical universe comprised entirely of waves, and do our misapprehensions create in our imaginations the existence of "matter?" Where in the universe does consciousness actually reside? What exactly is occuring during the cognitive process? Simple stuff...are humans eternally entrapped in self-imposed ignorance using warfare as a passtime as a result; a fear-based compensation?)

During his public school days he was eternally bullied and picked on. The "normal" kids targeted him early and constantly. This, of course, gave me ample ground to cover "how the self-doubting, herd mentality drives the behavior of individuals being initiated into a self-willed competitive society when their nature as a social species is cooperative, and how that is the root of abherrent behavior, such as putting others down to elevate themselves." The good stuff.

He's unable to read facial expressions and vocal inflections and how they signify an added meaning to what people say. If you say something sarcastically, he takes it literally. Of course, some things like smiling aren't a problem. Figuring out if someone's angry is a bit more difficult. Oddly enough, while being ill-treated by the average American schoolchild, they always smiled. That could get confusing. What amazes me most about him is he harbors no ill will toward anyone regardless of it all. He's literally the nicest person you'd ever want to meet. Though, he's learned his lesson well from me, he doesn't have to take any crap off of anyone. Since he's six-foot four and weighs a muscular 250 pounds, I wouldn't want to be the one on whom he finally unloads that right-cross I taught him. Ow.

I wish I could agree that "ignorance" covers this behavior you see. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. This sort of aggression is used as a social ladder in this society. There are cheers and pats on the back...knowing lulz...as it's being done. I suggest you not concern yourself with it. Enjoy the game. Let the stupidity roll down your back, as you seem to do. They aren't gonna change for themselves. They certainly won't change for you.


Ya, I remember conversations my parents were having and events from before I was 2. My parents divorced at 2 and I moved out of the house there, so even though I dont know my age when the memories take place, I know the timeline

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-04-03 02:30:26 UTC
[quote=Herping yourDerp
just like the obesity "epidemic" suddenly everyone has a disease that no one heard of 10 or 20 years ago..[/quote]

lol ya noone was fat before that Roll

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-04-03 02:37:03 UTC
Kattshiro wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
in the 90s no one heard of autism, assburgers and many other diseases

SUDDENLY 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zomg 9 in 10 people have autism
just like the obesity "epidemic" suddenly everyone has a disease that no one heard of 10 or 20 years ago.

my advice, try and be like the 90s was because maybe its the food people eat and the way they don't exercise as much.
eat fatty foods like we did in the 80s and 90s, play outside every day or so
turn off your cell phone for a few hours a day ect.



Could also be the fact that they re examined the guidelines of what exactly autism is. They broaden it and surprise! More people were diagnosed.

It's like if you cast a larger net you can catch more fish!
Even CDC reports reflect this in plain English... "Dear public vaccines do not cause autism... The reason more people have autism is because they redefined what it is, and who fits under it"... Seriously go look up how general the definition is now.

IT MUST BE SOMETHING IN THE AIR!!!

/sigh...


So mercury isn't a neurotoxin now, zippy? Thimerosal did not contain mercury?

Of course, I have to say the exact cause cited... because Rule #1 of doing the idiot roll is to never argue facts, never bring up facts, just be condescending.... like you know what you are talking about, which you don't.

But the doses were too low!

Cause, you know, one year old baby resistance to neurotoxins is honestly probably higher than a full grown mans! Just saying. Ya know. It just makes sense!

Of course, they still stopped using it. But you know, a bunch of people said it was dangerous, and then the medical industry stopped using it.

My mamma always said, were there is smoke, there certainly ain't fire! Anyone who tells you different, they probably is lying to you!

Oh, and zippy, vaccines in general.... you know, not nearly safe as you think. Normal product liability is suspended for vaccines in the United States. You want to know what *BLEEP* they replaced it with? Use google.
Vyl Vit
#58 - 2012-04-03 06:21:36 UTC
I do know polio was something people lived in fear of when I was a child. I knew people in those heavy metal leg braces. I was among the first, at five years old, to take the oral vaccine in a sugar cube. Then there was no polio. Poliomyelitis was horrifying. Franklin Roosevelt caught it in his adulthood. If it wasn't lethal, it was certainly crippling. As far as anyone knew at the time, anyone could catch it, then life as you knew it ended.

The smallpox vaccine has a remarkable history. Smallpox was a scourge. And, the rabies vaccination I get my dog? There's no way anyone can convince me to do otherwise. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Marginal performance has more to do with the failures you see in a lot of this. Also, there may be some things it's pointless to vaccinate against; taking a good thing too far.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#59 - 2012-04-03 06:36:06 UTC
I was diagnosed too when I was young: Cynical, jaded and bitter.

My prognosis is apparently grim and it is something I have to live with for the rest of my life.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Zirise
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2012-04-03 06:42:55 UTC
So Mittens tells some guy to end it and in the ensuing marathon of soapboxing we decide to be guilt-ridden into airing all our PC laundry?

Who the **** cares that you have aspergers? Don't make a point of bringing it up and its not an issue. I'm sure over half of the retreads in this game probably partially qualify themselves. People are going to talk **** about everything, so just ignore it and move on.