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Autism and EVE Online
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Hito-Shura
Caldari Fire Demons University
#1 - 2012-04-02 20:45:38 UTC
I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-04-02 20:52:01 UTC
This is not the friendliest game in the world, simple as that... report them if you want but you are gonna have to have thicker skin in order to play.
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-04-02 20:53:22 UTC
Ignorance and predjudice.

And has already been stated, kids will be kids.

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Kaitlin smithson
Murmurs And Whispers
#4 - 2012-04-02 20:54:24 UTC
Hito-Shura wrote:
I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?



who knows bro? all I know is I have a niece and nephew with autism and it's sad that they have it but it brings a "normal" being to tears seeing how they can do things still that other kids can do. Congrats for your achievements in life. I guess some people are fortunate enough in life not to have any relatives or loved ones with any conditions such as autism. I've seen it all in life from relatives and friends dying of all types of cancer, ALS aka Lou Gehrig's disease and other ailments besides the unfortunate accidents in combat and regular life.
I don't wish it upon anyone but the world needs to wake up and smell the roses because it may hit them one day and won't they feel like **** for mocking it.
Hito-Shura
Caldari Fire Demons University
#5 - 2012-04-02 20:54:39 UTC
Nedes Betternaem wrote:
This is not the friendliest game in the world, simple as that... report them if you want but you are gonna have to have thicker skin in order to play.


Who said that I was quitting because people are being offensive? I know its not the friendliest game in the world. I've taken great joy of taking ships from other people by force.
Pyrus Octavius
Flat Earth Believers
#6 - 2012-04-02 20:57:23 UTC
Some people are just d*cks. This game breeds so much hate. It disgusts me. The only reason I still play this game is because I have 7 years invested in it, and it's hard to walk away. It's the same with the "jew" term. As if all jews are rich. Which I know for fact they are not. There is nothing wrong with you or anyone who has Aspberger's. If anything your mind is wired better for EvE then theirs, so IMHO your winning.
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-04-02 20:58:31 UTC
Hito-Shura wrote:
Nedes Betternaem wrote:
This is not the friendliest game in the world, simple as that... report them if you want but you are gonna have to have thicker skin in order to play.


Who said that I was quitting because people are being offensive? I know its not the friendliest game in the world. I've taken great joy of taking ships from other people by force.

No, but most people don't start creating threads on the forums when something offends them (unless you are trying to metagame like the goonies).

Posting on the forums does nothing and if you have not reported the people you are complaining about then you have no right to complain.
Ninyania alCladdyth
McLuvin AstroDynamics
#8 - 2012-04-02 20:58:39 UTC
HTFU
Kaitlin smithson
Murmurs And Whispers
#9 - 2012-04-02 21:00:04 UTC
Pyrus Octavius wrote:
Some people are just d*cks. This game breeds so much hate. It disgusts me. The only reason I still play this game is because I have 7 years invested in it, and it's hard to walk away. It's the same with the "jew" term. As if all jews are rich. Which I know for fact they are not. There is nothing wrong with you or anyone who has Aspberger's. If anything your mind is wired better for EvE then theirs, so IMHO your winning.



second that motion 1000%.

they fail bro, not you. keep it up. Big smile
Shogun Archer
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-04-02 21:03:02 UTC
I wouldn't let it bother you, I know that sounds trite, but it's really the best thing you can do. And actually, being in my 20's in the 90's. I can recall the use of the word "gay" as meaning something lame etc... Even though it sounds like it was slur of gay people, most people I knew were VERY liberal minded that used it and hung out with gay ppl quite often.

Thing is, I just don't think you can train or force people to use only language that is unoffensive to everyone. There is always going to be something offensive to someone.

Best thing you can do is block em, report em if you find it necessary (if they are personally attacking you), or best yet, ignore them.

Btw, your portrait is awesome.

If you run into more than 2 a**holes in a day, you should probably look in the mirror.
Hito-Shura
Caldari Fire Demons University
#11 - 2012-04-02 21:03:21 UTC
Nedes Betternaem wrote:
Hito-Shura wrote:
Nedes Betternaem wrote:
This is not the friendliest game in the world, simple as that... report them if you want but you are gonna have to have thicker skin in order to play.


Who said that I was quitting because people are being offensive? I know its not the friendliest game in the world. I've taken great joy of taking ships from other people by force.

No, but most people don't start creating threads on the forums when something offends them (unless you are trying to metagame like the goonies).

Posting on the forums does nothing and if you have not reported the people you are complaining about then you have no right to complain.


There's no reason to report them. Am I to call the cops because someone is being a racist? This thread is just to see what others in EVE Think, not to 'BAWWWW' about being made fun of.
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#12 - 2012-04-02 21:06:30 UTC
Have you considered joining the Goons?
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-04-02 21:06:31 UTC
Hito-Shura wrote:
Nedes Betternaem wrote:
Hito-Shura wrote:
Nedes Betternaem wrote:
This is not the friendliest game in the world, simple as that... report them if you want but you are gonna have to have thicker skin in order to play.


Who said that I was quitting because people are being offensive? I know its not the friendliest game in the world. I've taken great joy of taking ships from other people by force.

No, but most people don't start creating threads on the forums when something offends them (unless you are trying to metagame like the goonies).

Posting on the forums does nothing and if you have not reported the people you are complaining about then you have no right to complain.


There's no reason to report them. Am I to call the cops because someone is being a racist? This thread is just to see what others in EVE Think, not to 'BAWWWW' about being made fun of.

You could call the cops, but I am glad you are not one of those people. Once you put it that way I am alright with this thread, carry on.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#14 - 2012-04-02 21:08:02 UTC
In response to the OP:

I think that part of increased awareness of a thing is increased humor about it.

The humor may not always be in good taste, but neither is it always meant to be "completely" offensive, either.

People joke about stuff. Culture is not homogenous because individuals comprise it. What's appropriate for one individual may not be appropriate for most, and vice-versa.

There's nothing wrong with Autism, it's just different than most people are accustomed. That makes it a (sometimes) unfortunate target for humor.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Hito-Shura
Caldari Fire Demons University
#15 - 2012-04-02 21:08:44 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Have you considered joining the Goons?


Not necessary. I'm content with my current position in game.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#16 - 2012-04-02 21:09:03 UTC
They're probably compensating for some lack in their life.


Living with Asperger's for 16 years (well, parents have at least, I don't remember half of them). Though I don't feel offended when people use the terms in a derogatory sense. Maybe annoyed, a little. Faced worse in school when I was younger, so not much bothers me anymore.



Unfortunately, it has become the ADHD of the 90s. So not many non-physicians take it seriously.
Hito-Shura
Caldari Fire Demons University
#17 - 2012-04-02 21:17:57 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
They're probably compensating for some lack in their life.


Living with Asperger's for 16 years (well, parents have at least, I don't remember half of them). Though I don't feel offended when people use the terms in a derogatory sense. Maybe annoyed, a little. Faced worse in school when I was younger, so not much bothers me anymore.



Unfortunately, it has become the ADHD of the 90s. So not many non-physicians take it seriously.


I was diagnosed with Asperger's I think late in the 90s. I was diagnosed with ADHD as well but they dropped that for Asperger's.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-04-02 21:20:31 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Ignorance and predjudice.

And has already been stated, kids will be kids.

It really is as simple as that.

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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#19 - 2012-04-02 21:29:39 UTC
Man are we scraping the barrel or what with all this pc stuff. Not so sure about this one though. I've seen our wonderful starred word ******** used often but autistic? Really?
If anything more often than not I see the autistic people using their autism as a crutch (both in game and out), and when I say autistic people I really mean specifically the Asperger crowd. I've come to liken them to the ADHD's, who back in the 90's appeared to be every 1 out of 2 people. In fact I did a little research on Aspergers recently as I've been hearing the term more and more and it turns out that it and ADHD has quite an abundance of similar symptoms. Now I can't help but wonder if Aspergers is the new craze for Doctors who want to drug you with something new and expensive.

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Anthemius Heb
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-04-02 21:37:44 UTC
This game just attracts the nastiest kind of people, the worst kind of trolls. That's all. It has one of the most disgusting communities of any online game but it also has some of the kindest and most helpful of any game - it's just that they're few and far between. I play because it's the only type of game around that offers such an immersive sci fi gaming experience but I'm always ready to drop it like it's hot when the degenerates who rule the roost get too much and it stops being a game and becomes a stress inducing quagmire of ****.
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