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Question about professions.

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Jim Malderan
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-03-31 20:43:29 UTC
Hi, I just started my trial today so I am a bit clueless, but I was looking at the professions(trader, bounty hunter etc) and I found the Salvager quite interesting. My question is; are the professions designed as I play or do you actually choose profession somewhere and I missed it?

Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#2 - 2012-03-31 21:52:56 UTC
Jim Malderan wrote:
Hi, I just started my trial today so I am a bit clueless, but I was looking at the professions(trader, bounty hunter etc) and I found the Salvager quite interesting. My question is; are the professions designed as I play or do you actually choose profession somewhere and I missed it?


"Profession" is just a very vague way of describing things you can spend your time doing...And remember that that is by no means a complete list, it's only there to fight the common newbie feeling of "So...what do I do now?"

gfldex
#3 - 2012-03-31 23:20:43 UTC
Most of EVE.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.

Grikath
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-01 12:48:40 UTC
Each profession/career is rather a "thing to do" in EVE than an actual "class" you choose.

In your case of the salvager/explorer, you need good probing skills, decent combat skills, and a slew of science skills along with the skills needed to fly dedicated explorer/salvager ships.
Most of the basics for this you can get trained in about 2 months, which for this game is pretty fast.

Highsec isn't "Safe".  Neither is it a playground for bullies and bottomfeeders. So stop complaining and start playing the game already.

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#5 - 2012-04-01 14:12:27 UTC
What they said. If salvaging sounds interesting now, go for it. It will in no way force you to take any particular skill choices, and it will not limit what you can do later on in the game. In EVE, there are no classes or anything else that limits what skills you can learn or what equipment you can use. If you get bored with what you are doing now, you can always learn something different.
Jim Malderan
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-04-02 07:22:04 UTC
Thanks you boys and girls:)

I consider myself a true gamer, and therefore I am a bit disappointed with myself for not having tried EVE before now. It feels like it's a steep learning curve, but I owe myself as much as to give it more than a fair chance. I've so far learned to go from point a to point b to point a to pick up documents and such, I hope this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship:) I am considering purchasing EVE in order to give it a true chance.

Question: Is there a gold edition of some sort? I found something called "EVE Online: Incarna", the description was a bit vague so I am not sure whether this just is some sort of DLC or if it is the actual game?
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-04-02 09:57:11 UTC
There's no such thing, Incarna is the code name for the captain quarters and the still-in-development "Walk in Station" (aka WiS), that is supposed to allow you to take your toon within the station you're docked at, and socialize with the others in the same station. It's all the out of ship part of the game.
Everyone has the same game, there's no gold/platinum/whatever edition. In Eve, everyone has the same tools, everyone's dropped in the same sandbox and from there, what you do of the sand with your tools, is up to you, be it building castles, digging holes or throwing it in other players eyes.
Every now and then, there's a major update, wich is totally free and called an expansion, your launcher will automatically download and install it for you. This summer, the "Inferno" expansion is supposed to be released, for example. Expansions come as major updates, to fix bugs, make in depth changes in some game mechanisms, etc.

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]

Jim Malderan
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-04-02 10:24:59 UTC
Ok, I am really impressed with EVE so far, every other game feels like a rock-paper-scissors kind of game compared to the awesome depth of EVE.

On another not concerning salvaging; are there any particular ship that you can recommend for me? I know the Noctis is some kind of rapid salvaging-ship, but surely there must be something in each faction? I hope I haven't made a fool out of myself for picking minmatar, I had no idea which to pick. As far as I can understand it shouldn't matter since EVE is so open that you can build anything from anything with anything, right?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#9 - 2012-04-02 10:45:26 UTC
Jim Malderan wrote:
It feels like it's a steep learning curve



I'll refer you to this:
http://www.mmocrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/learningcurve.jpg


As for ships:

The Noctis is the gold standard of salvaging ships. It's from the ORE Faction (Well, company.) The other factions don't have salvage ships. Though many people will take a destroyer and use that, until they can afford a Noctis. The Thrasher makes a pretty good little salvage boat.

Take a look at the in game channel 'Free Wrecks'

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-04-02 10:55:01 UTC
We're past april 1st, so I'd say there's no fool :)

You didn't make any mistake choosing minmatar, since there's no big difference between races. You will have racial frigates and weaponry trained first, but with time you can train for any kind of weapons and ships, your race isn't restricting you, only the time it takes to train the required skills might force you to restrict yourself to one race of ship, or one set of weapons.

Each race has its own range of ships, but all races have similar classes of ships and similarily oriented, with the exception of industrials like the Noctis you mentionned, but those come for very specific tasks. Minmatar ships will typically have bonuses to projectile weapons, while Amarr ships have bonuses to energy weapons (lasers). The rifter and the punisher are both the respective Minmatar and Amarr "top" T1 frigates, but they're fairly similar in essence. What differs is how much of an advantage, one can make of the inherent bonuses of both the ship and the mods you fit it with, as well as the experience of the pilot (I'm over-simplifying for explanation, not argueing over any particular ship, though).

If you look at the standard battlecruisers, you'll find that all races have three models, a DPS oriented, a long range oriented and a tanking oriented, but with the correct skills, fitting and experience, no matter which race you picked, you can achieve a very similar result.

As a new player, I'd recommend that you first focus on training core skills that will benefit all ships, and figure what you want to do in Eve, from there you can chose to specialize in a line of ships and train the necessary skills.

Have a look at Louis' epic skill guide to understand the basic skills and how they affect the ship. It will be very helpful.

You will also need to correctly understand the differences between each races and weapon/tanking specialties (Amarr ships are armor tankers, Caldari ships are shield tankers, energy weapons are capacitor hungry, missiles fire and fly slowly, etc.). This is what you'll need to understand to be able to train the correct skills and chose the ship that suits you best.

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#11 - 2012-04-02 17:59:52 UTC
Quote:
Ok, I am really impressed with EVE so far, every other game feels like a rock-paper-scissors kind of game compared to the awesome depth of EVE.

Say hallelujah, amen, it's another one of our brothers seen the light!

Welcome. ;)
Jouron
Hadon Shipping
#12 - 2012-04-02 20:10:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jouron
Minmitar is a solid race for just about everything.

Autocannons are best cannons.

If you want a good salvage boat but dont have a noctis dont worry. Use the thrasher the minmitar destroyer.

Most people here who used to salvage there missions will tell you before the incursion expansion every one used destroyers as salvage boats. With small salvage tackle rigs a bunch of salvagers and tractor beams, a prop mod and cargo expanders. So you using a thrasher isn't going to set you back much, its just the Noctis is a big convenience.

The noctis isnt the be all end all of salvaging though. If people dont give you salvage locations you can probe down mission runners and salvage there wrecks during or after they run a mission site. Thats called ninja salvaging. A thrasher/frigate is much more agile and can get in and out faster something the noctis isnt as good as.

If you want big money for a little bit of risk you can attempt Clandestine salvaging. Thats where you use the star map to locate where major battles have taken place in low and null sec, and you run out to the location in a fast expendable ship(preferably cloaky) and salvage tech II ship wrecks(you will need a tech II salvager to do that). Tech II salvage makes tech II rigs and is in short supply so its really valuable.

The star map can show you all these details but something slightly more user friendly is
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/
Which can show you where huge amounts of ships have died in the past 48hrs and the number of npc pirate ships killed in systems.

Yes. EVE has ruined every other MMO for me. I tried black prophecy, and when the first time I got killed in PVP there were zero consequences, I just spawned on the other side of the area I was in. I was actually disappointed and angered and quit right then and there.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-04-07 02:21:42 UTC
Glad you found EVE. EVE is the best game I've EVER played, even with its faults. Its such a deep game, that when I go to play other MMO's, they feel so shallow compared to EVE. I've been playing EVE for quite a while (over 2 years) and there is still stuff that I learn everyday.

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