Assembly Hall

Hello all and this is my first proposal and hopefully a good one in the CSM Assembly Hall, my name is Calvin Cook and I propose something that may completely fix the "CSM Vote Stacking" problems of people voting for a Candidate with Multiple Accounts!

I propose to change the way accounts and multiple characters on accounts work.

Currently an account may have a maximum of 3 characters, and only one of those characters may actively train at once. This effectively makes multiple characters useless for reasons other than: A) Alt Posting on Forums and B) Anonymous Grief and/or Shade Tactics in-game, I may be leaving a few reasons out but for the most part this is what the 2nd and 3rd character slots are being used for.

I propose that new accounts have only ONE character slot, and that you may add additional character slots that increase your monthly fee, and all characters on your account may actively train skills. I believe this would help the multiple account voting problem we currently have, aswell as make multiple active alts much more convenient. I am aware that this would not extinguish the multiple account voting problem, but I believe it would lessen it.

An additional option would to allow customers/players to pay for individual characters on their account, and if you don't want to keep paying for certain characters, that character on your account gets "frozen" because that SPECIFIC characters subscription has run out. This would allow for "individual PLEXing."

A quick example:

Account with 1 Character, $15.00/mo.
Account with 2 Characters, $30.00/mo. both characters on account may actively train skills.
Account with 5 Characters, $75.00/mo. all characters on accounts may actively train skills.

Please tell me what you think, EVE Community!

I also use my other 2 slots on my accounts for cyno alts and trading toons.



But this is not the pointl, you will never get rid of the multi-account per person volting in the CSM, unless CCP changes the rules for volting. People will always have more then one account as CCP restricts you to be only able to log into one pilot at a time, many players like to multi-box you wont be able to do this on one account.



People should be able to vote for each of their accounts as the more active accounts they have, the greater the interest in the game they have. Just becuase you own a 100 shares in a coumpany doesnt mean your vote at the AGM is only counted once, it is counted for all the shares you have. Otherwise you would have the minority share holders dictating what the majority do.

Hi, I have 2 accounts, each with 1 character with ~90M SP, 1 with ~30M SP and 1 with ~1M SP.

You can rest assurred that I didn't train 30M SP into those secondary alts for no reason.

So yes, you may indeed "be leaving a few reasons out".

Good for you.

I have six cyno/PI/trade/RVB alts. I use them all. I suppose you'd take four of them away from me?

Do you not think the sub account system might complicate things a little? Or compromise account security? (Lose one account, lose literally everything, rather than just 1/3) And how about spying? Your system would remove it entirely.

In short, No. CSM voting isn't worth screwing up every other aspect of EVE.

Mostly use mine as cyno alts.

Anyway, there's a good argument that says if I pay for 3 accounts then why shouldn't I have 3 votes.

Best arguement so far.

"cannot afford multiple accounts" you mean people who have more IRL cash, so can pay for more accounts?

You're thinking in the wrong direction and assuming everyone pays for their accounts with RL cash.
The truth in the matter is actually that most efficient players actually don't pay for their accounts with RL cash. They make enough isk in game to pay for the account(s) with PLEX which they buy off the ingame market for isk. Which in return, was seeded by folks that prefer to pay some extra cash not to have to grind/trade/PvE/scam for isk.

If you really want to try to limit the amount of votes someone has in EVE to the amount of actual players I think you've got a tremendous problem.

Also, anyone can make isk to pay for their accounts in-game. Be it though trade/mining/PvE/scamming. So "people who cannot afford multiple accounts" is not really a valid issue. I guess time to play the game and not being bright enough to play the game is a limiting factor.. but strangely I still feel that EVE is already a game for the brighter soles than some of its competitors so I don't think that's really an issue.

Any game I know allows votes per account. Why would EVE be different? Do you really think everyone in goons has 100 accounts? If I'm not mistaken EVE already limits the accounts that are allowed to vote had to be active for about 6months prior to the CSM voting... if you think people are just making bogus accounts to generate an extra vote I can tell you you're wrong.

Purchasing multiple accounts for the purpose of vote padding seems a bit far fetched. However alliance CEOs strongly "urging" members to vote for them is far more likely.

But that's the way it goes in EvE. You will never see fair democratic election in EvE in the same way you will never see a fair democratic election in Somalia.