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Best affordable ship for L4?
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Khadann
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-01 20:21:03 UTC
Can someone advice me on which BS take for running L4 in caldari space?


I have 12M SP on gunnery, mostly hybrid.

Piloting a rokh currently, not sure it is what i should use
Predator989
Kurupt.
Sedition.
#2 - 2012-04-01 20:30:49 UTC
Dominix: = 120 mil roughly for 750-850 dps easily and can run any mission except for angel bonus room.

Only issue is that it needs tech 2 sentrys/rails....

You can effectively shield tank it and push for more DPS, but it'll cost you a lot more in most cases.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#3 - 2012-04-01 20:49:50 UTC
A Dominix can easily run Level 4 bonus room as well, with the right fit.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Admiral Lysander
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-01 20:50:13 UTC
Khadann wrote:
Can someone advice me on which BS take for running L4 in caldari space?


I have 12M SP on gunnery, mostly hybrid.

Piloting a rokh currently, not sure it is what i should use




Alot cheeper is a passiv tank drake as long as you can use t2 heavy launcher's and t2 for both mid an low slots
Adacia Calla
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-04-01 21:04:17 UTC
Khadann wrote:
Can someone advice me on which BS take for running L4 in caldari space?


I have 12M SP on gunnery, mostly hybrid.

Piloting a rokh currently, not sure it is what i should use


Rokh with T2 Neutrons + Null isn't good enough?

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#6 - 2012-04-01 21:28:17 UTC
Adacia Calla wrote:
Rokh with T2 Neutrons + Null isn't good enough?


Guristas orbit too far out.
Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
#7 - 2012-04-01 22:19:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Celeritas 5k
I used a rokh for awhile, but I switched to a rail hyperion and all my wildest dreams came true.


[Hyperion, l4 cheap]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Centus C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Dark Blood Cap Recharger
Dark Blood Cap Recharger
Dark Blood Cap Recharger

425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Edit-- It's a bit light on tank so you have to be careful with aggro, and it doesn't get the face-melting close range damage of the rokh, but it doesn't have the range issues and still hits pretty hard inside 45k.
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#8 - 2012-04-01 23:47:55 UTC
Celeritas 5k wrote:
I used a rokh for awhile, but I switched to a rail hyperion and all my wildest dreams came true.


[Hyperion, l4 cheap]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Centus C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Dark Blood Cap Recharger
Dark Blood Cap Recharger
Dark Blood Cap Recharger

425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Edit-- It's a bit light on tank so you have to be careful with aggro, and it doesn't get the face-melting close range damage of the rokh, but it doesn't have the range issues and still hits pretty hard inside 45k.


this pvp fit won't do you any good
OfBalance
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-04-01 23:55:45 UTC
/snore

Maelstrom, hands down.

Next
stoicfaux
#10 - 2012-04-02 04:39:48 UTC
Bestower. For courier missions.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-04-02 20:17:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
a rail rokh is a fine thing for gurista missions, as far as cheap gun platforms go. the only alternative that comes to mind is the tempest. the setup below will tank up to 650 dps and has similar overall damage output to a railgun rokh. the total investment is under 300mil, ~180 without the shield booster.

[Tempest, lvl4]

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Heat Dissipation Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


edit: if you have another ~80 mil, you can go for a similar build on the maelstrom. it will give you some extra tank and dps while still being far below 500mil.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Yabba Addict
Legion of the Many
#12 - 2012-04-02 20:21:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Yabba Addict
Celeritas 5k wrote:
I used a rokh for awhile, but I switched to a rail hyperion and all my wildest dreams came true.


[Hyperion, l4 cheap]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Centus C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Dark Blood Cap Recharger
Dark Blood Cap Recharger
Dark Blood Cap Recharger

425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Edit-- It's a bit light on tank so you have to be careful with aggro, and it doesn't get the face-melting close range damage of the rokh, but it does have range issues and still hits pretty hard inside 45k.


FTFY
No range issues with the rokh, and with this against guristas is just a horribad idea, not just because at 70 km (usual am range for the rokh) you're doing less dps than a rokh. Guristas are long ranged. And fitting eccm would be nice too, so either a cap charger or a tracking comp have to go, hurting your range or tank even more.

EDIT
And from i can tell, the rokh is one of the more versatile bs mission ships out right now, able to fit legitimate rail and blaster fits, depending on rat type/mission.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-02 20:34:04 UTC
you trade the damage projection for significantly better tracking, so unless ALL your targets are battleships that orbit at stupid ranges, the overall damage should be around the same.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#14 - 2012-04-03 09:49:24 UTC
You can't get much cheaper then this domi:

fit is somewhat pimped but it doesn't lose too much *oomph* with regular t2 fittings so you can pimp the fit as much as you prefer only thing you have to keep is the faction repper and t2 weapons.
900dps and tanks round 480 with this set up and is also cap stable if you don't reps / guns (especially if you drop drone dmg for ccc).

[Dominix, L4 domi]
Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Armor EM Hardener
Damage Control II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link

350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
[empty rig slot]

Ogre II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Garde II x5
Kairos Eunoia
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#15 - 2012-04-03 13:11:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Kairos Eunoia
Dominix is sooo slow imo and hard to train for.

Raven and Drake is probably the cheapest.
Korah Arnelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-04-03 13:57:25 UTC
Kairos Eunoia wrote:
Dominix is sooo slow imo and hard to train for.

Raven and Drake is probably the cheapest.



Since the OP stated he's primarily a gunnery player, it would be hard for him, but many Gallente pilots put SP into drones early on which is why the Dominix is a favored L4 boat (aside from the fact you can fit it for AFK missioning).

OP, I would say go on the artillery based builds listed above since they have decent reach and you'll just use light and medium drones for whatever gets too close like frigates. Anything far how out enough should be vaporized by the artie volleys easily, especially frigates.