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Ankura Zniff
Alpenverein
#21 - 2011-09-13 16:33:04 UTC
Well, whether somebody external wants to invest in us or not, all I can say is that we are having a good time in our system and making some good money. For me that's all that counts anyhoo :)
Loney
CyberDyne R-D
Artificial Intellagence
#22 - 2011-09-14 01:54:20 UTC
No one going to give you isk for your IPO for many reasons...

So... I happen to have about 20 Dread, 28 Carrier, and ALL the Component BPO's to keep them in full productions laying around.

I might be interested to work out a deal where you can rent them all while they are locked down in my alt corp in a Lowsec system .4 jumps from jita...

Let me know if you are interested.

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Freya Vanadis
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2011-09-14 04:51:31 UTC
The reason they need money is because of this

http://eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=162

loosing all their minerals and bpo's/bpc's Big smileBig smile
Socks Malone
Perkone
Caldari State
#24 - 2011-09-14 06:21:39 UTC
You know I would feel so much better if this had Goonswarm behind it. They seem like very trustworthy people and fun to fly with. My personal recruiter has assured me that I will get in soon too after contracting 13 plex's to his account with that new deal. I'll get them back once I'm accepted he said.

I can't wait to join a whelpfleet!
Atima
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#25 - 2011-09-14 09:21:01 UTC
Larana Randie wrote:
Atima wrote:
Larana Randie wrote:

....

For the past 6 months weve built over 100 caps and 3 supers . my plan is to expand.
...

currently we own two carrier build sets and archon + thanatos bpos.
...


1. You're maths doesn't add up.

2. Why are you building carriers in 0.0. You're exposing yourself to significant and uneeded risk. Loss of space will lead to loss of production run and 10's of billions worth of BPO's unaccessable.

Yada Yada need them for supercaps - Don't care. Take them there when you build supers or better yet use BPC's, They're negligable when bought from contracts.

3. So you have a ton of capital BPOs. Why not use them as collateral for the offering?

ohnoes they're in 0.0 and my CEO/Alliance leader/Pimp won't allow me to.


hello and thanks for your rant - first off yes we do build our carriers in 0.0 as its just easyer to build them here - the sheer ammount of mins we get daily is just to much to move - even with mineral compression

and yes you are right maybe there is a bit of risk - we own our own outpost and even if somehow we was to be invaded i doubt our station would be the first one hit - we would defonatly get those bpos out

yes we do own capital BPOs but they are in constant build it wouldnt make any sense to use them for collateral as it would lower our profits

again thanks for your comment


YUP DIS GUIZ SPECIAL.

So you -actually- Aquire all that tritanium and pyrite in 0.0? all in one station and can be sure of a sufficient supply over time? How?

its much easier to aquire these minerals in significant quantities at stable prices in highsec than 0.0.

owning the outpost is even worse than building from an NPC station.

To use the BPO's as collateral ( because lets face it, thats the only way you're getting any isk at all ) you give them to someone else who creates a corp and locks the BPO's down in it and gives you rights to build from them. There is no loss of anything by this method except a reduction in the scam risk by yourself.
freshspree
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2011-09-14 15:29:54 UTC
Freya Vanadis wrote:
The reason they need money is because of this

http://eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=162

loosing all their minerals and bpo's/bpc's Big smileBig smile

Fail link is fail.
Larana Randie
NewTech Systems
#27 - 2011-09-14 21:08:53 UTC
thanks to the people who have invested

half the shares have already sold

for any more questions please contact me - this forum is mainly full of trolls
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#28 - 2011-09-14 22:12:32 UTC
Larana Randie wrote:
thanks to the people who have invested

half the shares have already sold

for any more questions please contact me - this forum is mainly full of trolls




Oh? I'm sure you could mention who bought one hundred billion in scam shares, then?
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#29 - 2011-09-19 06:34:43 UTC
Loraine Gess wrote:
Larana Randie wrote:
thanks to the people who have invested

half the shares have already sold

for any more questions please contact me - this forum is mainly full of trolls




Oh? I'm sure you could mention who bought one hundred billion in scam shares, then?




Funny how that works...
Jaxx McCoy
#30 - 2011-09-19 16:29:23 UTC
^^ Scammers calling scam??

What is this I dont even...
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2011-09-19 17:23:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
Atima wrote:
So you -actually- Aquire all that tritanium and pyrite in 0.0? all in one station and can be sure of a sufficient supply over time? How?

in the drone regions you build supercapitals because that way it's easier to sell the minerals...

Everywhere else in 0.0 the criticism about it being difficult to acquire minerals (other than those from ABC) would be spot on, in the drone regions it doesn't apply (some people export raw alloys to high-sec to evade refinery taxes but I'd guess they are a small minority).

It's also some of the "safest" space in EVE in turns of sov warfare - look up one of these nice "influence map over time" videos on youtube and you'll see that in Oasa nothing has changed over the last 2-3 years...

The real risk is that they get evicted by their landlord, Legion of xXDEATHXx losing that piece of space is extremely unlikely.

(Even if you have paid for the construction or transfer of your outpost you only "own" it as long as your landlord looks favorably down on you... don't fool yourself into believing you have a claim to space or infrastructure you couldn't defend)
Larana Randie
NewTech Systems
#32 - 2011-09-24 11:02:31 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
Atima wrote:
So you -actually- Aquire all that tritanium and pyrite in 0.0? all in one station and can be sure of a sufficient supply over time? How?

in the drone regions you build supercapitals because that way it's easier to sell the minerals...

Everywhere else in 0.0 the criticism about it being difficult to acquire minerals (other than those from ABC) would be spot on, in the drone regions it doesn't apply (some people export raw alloys to high-sec to evade refinery taxes but I'd guess they are a small minority).

It's also some of the "safest" space in EVE in turns of sov warfare - look up one of these nice "influence map over time" videos on youtube and you'll see that in Oasa nothing has changed over the last 2-3 years...

The real risk is that they get evicted by their landlord, Legion of xXDEATHXx losing that piece of space is extremely unlikely.

(Even if you have paid for the construction or transfer of your outpost you only "own" it as long as your landlord looks favorably down on you... don't fool yourself into believing you have a claim to space or infrastructure you couldn't defend)



everything you said here is true - and thanks for the comment

we still have shares for sale and the ipo is going very well so far
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2011-09-26 16:12:52 UTC
hehe... will check this info through my channels in alliance Cool

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Expected mothersonly
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2011-09-27 07:09:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Expected mothersonly
Funny story here...This drunk has been ripping off alliance and corp members for months now. He has been selling bull Shares/Carriers/and items on markets promising all sorts of wonderful things like huge payouts weekly, next day deliveries all with empty endings. Some of his already existing shareholders haven't been paid out...ever....But he wins eve because he can make 100 carriers and 3 supers even though the corp has only been in that system since 9/5. Bogus junk. There have been numerous alliance mails about this guy and his alt (oh so sneaky) SunburnedFrog ripping people of. Do youself a favor and go give your isk to some random dude in Jita, you'll get a better kick out of it.

TOTAL SCAM!

alliance mails as follows...

Re: Though you guys might want to see Suns final blow
From: xxxxxxxx
Sent: 2011.09.21 17:17
To: xxxxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxx,

good **** thanks for includeing me also noticed that the bonds he had us buying to support the station build were bs no payout for the last 2 years. lmao

Though you guys might want to see Suns final blow
From: xxxxxxx
Sent: 2011.09.21 13:46
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxx,xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,

The problem with this whole event is that one of them is CEO from one of the Core Corps in te Alliance.

Re: beware of this theif
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 2011.09.21 01:41
To: Shadow of xXDEATHXx,

You have some nerve, selling CSA's on your Alt Larana Randie and then reneging on deals, promising delivery the same day and stiffing people out of money, then putting that same item back up on the DRF Market. Pot. Kettle. Black.

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Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#35 - 2011-09-27 07:21:38 UTC
Jaxx McCoy wrote:
^^ Scammers calling scam??

What is this I dont even...



We can smell each other.
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