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k'ryn
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-04-01 18:40:53 UTC
Huma Dragonis wrote:
Vanir Tsero wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

EvE Online is a cut throat gaming environment with evil individuals who will sell your mother to pilot their Tech3. You are getting offended over a derogatory word? Sure, it's widely inappropriate in Real Life, but with many games... There is a pvp solution.

If you don't like getting called names, teach them a lesson. Petitioning to get someone banned is not a legit strategy. It actually goes to show how weak you are.

If your skin isn't thick enough to shrug off such derogatory language, perhaps gaming in general is not for you. You will see this language everywhere. How you react to it is up to you.

Just hunt him down and pod him. Let him swear up and down because of that.

That's the beauty of EvE Online. Anything and Everything goes. The Game is player run. So run it.


This thread is not so much about what he said, but rather the unique response CCP has decided to take when there is no press involved in the incident.



Riverini is a member of evenews24, a "prolific" news site and composes many pieces. He is...therefore a member of the press and a member/candidate for the CSM. He should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2012-04-01 18:41:11 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
good thing i happened to be inside Hilmar (the solar system) where i heard this in local

[18:05:30] Huma Dragonis > Alright I forged that log and posted it on EVE Gd.
[18:05:55] Huma Dragonis > plz transfer ISK over now\
[18:06:14] Razzor Death > isk sent




Clearly fake. Razzor never has any isk.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-04-01 18:41:18 UTC
Better to live on racist feet than to die without panties dropping to your knees!
Ni'ark
Parnassius Corporation
#24 - 2012-04-01 18:41:30 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Revolution Rising wrote:
Oh dear, shall I also start petitioning the term "jew" when describing people making money ?

Pretty sure that covers a lot of the CFC.

It's a slippery slope - especially when it's bathed in your blood.


"Jew" is a recognised word with a non-abusive meaning. It's not more inherently insulting than calling someone "Christian" or "Bhuddist".

If words like "k*ke" were used, that would be a closer equivalent.


You mean i can't kekekeekeke now?
But that offends zergs.
-First thread in ship and modules   -First whine thread in ship and modules -First locked thread in ship and modules and new eve-o forums.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#25 - 2012-04-01 18:42:30 UTC
Its because of falcon.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-04-01 18:43:26 UTC
Ni'ark wrote:

You mean i can't kekekeekeke now?
But that offends zergs.


I was unaware zerg was an epithet for Koreans. Thank you for this information.
Vanir Tsero
Ain't Misbehaving
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#27 - 2012-04-01 18:43:30 UTC
Huma Dragonis wrote:
Vanir Tsero wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

EvE Online is a cut throat gaming environment with evil individuals who will sell your mother to pilot their Tech3. You are getting offended over a derogatory word? Sure, it's widely inappropriate in Real Life, but with many games... There is a pvp solution.

If you don't like getting called names, teach them a lesson. Petitioning to get someone banned is not a legit strategy. It actually goes to show how weak you are.

If your skin isn't thick enough to shrug off such derogatory language, perhaps gaming in general is not for you. You will see this language everywhere. How you react to it is up to you.

Just hunt him down and pod him. Let him swear up and down because of that.

That's the beauty of EvE Online. Anything and Everything goes. The Game is player run. So run it.


This thread is not so much about what he said, but rather the unique response CCP has decided to take when there is no press involved in the incident.


I see nothing wrong with CCP's response. Every single game has individuals who say racist things. I mean hell, anyone who has ever played World of Warcraft know exactly what "Barrens Chat" is.

I'm not racist in the least bit but I will never allow a child to offend me by spouting off ignorant things. I just laugh at his lack of education. Simply reading the word, even knowing it was said in a malicious way does not offend me. Even if it were directed at me.

It comes down to a simple comparison. Someone calls you a Buttface on the playground. At the age of 9, this is extremely offensive. What do you do? Do you run to mommy and tell? Do you sit there, smile and not give a damn? Or do you punch him in the friggn face?

If CCP did something for every single racist comment in EvE Online, we'd have noone to blow up. If you are offended by their chat, put them on block. I support CCP's response in this situation.
k'ryn
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-04-01 18:47:16 UTC
Vanir Tsero wrote:
Huma Dragonis wrote:
Vanir Tsero wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

EvE Online is a cut throat gaming environment with evil individuals who will sell your mother to pilot their Tech3. You are getting offended over a derogatory word? Sure, it's widely inappropriate in Real Life, but with many games... There is a pvp solution.

If you don't like getting called names, teach them a lesson. Petitioning to get someone banned is not a legit strategy. It actually goes to show how weak you are.

If your skin isn't thick enough to shrug off such derogatory language, perhaps gaming in general is not for you. You will see this language everywhere. How you react to it is up to you.

Just hunt him down and pod him. Let him swear up and down because of that.

That's the beauty of EvE Online. Anything and Everything goes. The Game is player run. So run it.


This thread is not so much about what he said, but rather the unique response CCP has decided to take when there is no press involved in the incident.


I see nothing wrong with CCP's response. Every single game has individuals who say racist things. I mean hell, anyone who has ever played World of Warcraft know exactly what "Barrens Chat" is.

I'm not racist in the least bit but I will never allow a child to offend me by spouting off ignorant things. I just laugh at his lack of education. Simply reading the word, even knowing it was said in a malicious way does not offend me. Even if it were directed at me.

It comes down to a simple comparison. Someone calls you a Butt-face on the playground. At the age of 9, this is extremely offensive. What do you do? Do you run to mommy and tell? Do you sit there, smile and not give a damn? Or do you punch him in the friggn face?

If CCP did something for every single racist comment in EvE Online, we'd have no one to blow up. If you are offended by their chat, put them on block. I support CCP's response in this situation.


Honestly, it's about who Riverini is. The editor of a prominent news site. He is in the public eye and thus should be better than the rest of us. This tarnishes his reputation and should not be done. Action needs to be taken now to restore faith in the process as well as the news organizations that post eve articles.
Shogun Archer
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-04-01 18:48:03 UTC
Offensive word, yes, but what if the guy that said it was black? You have to figure out if he/she was black first for it to be considered racist... Roll

If you run into more than 2 a**holes in a day, you should probably look in the mirror.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#30 - 2012-04-01 18:54:53 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Huma Dragonis wrote:
During a major fleet battle today in Tenal, one of the major editors of EveNews24.com decided to type racist remarks in local chat.

[18:05:30] riverini > DIE NIGGERS1 DIE!!!

The CFC members having been negatively affeccted by these racist remarks did the appropriate thing, and began to file petitions with CCP. However, within moments, a GM informed the CFC members that they should no longer file any petitions, and many petitions filed by members are already closed.

The CFC members were then told "just block him"

Blocking someone is not an action that all members of the CFC should have to take because another eve player decides to post racist remarks in local chat.

CCP really should make this pilot abide by TOS and EULA when playing this game, and if he cannot play the game along those lines, then maybe he should not be allowed to play. Why should we all suffer in this game due to a racist?



Just go back to the timecode bazaar and stop bothering the fine folks in general discussion.

Mr Epeen Cool



Look at this shameful support of racist culture.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-04-01 18:55:56 UTC
Huma Dragonis wrote:
During a major fleet battle today in Tenal, one of the major editors of EveNews24.com decided to type racist remarks in local chat.

[18:05:30] riverini > DIE NIGGERS1 DIE!!!

The CFC members having been negatively affeccted by these racist remarks did the appropriate thing, and began to file petitions with CCP. However, within moments, a GM informed the CFC members that they should no longer file any petitions, and many petitions filed by members are already closed.

The CFC members were then told "just block him"

Blocking someone is not an action that all members of the CFC should have to take because another eve player decides to post racist remarks in local chat.

CCP really should make this pilot abide by TOS and EULA when playing this game, and if he cannot play the game along those lines, then maybe he should not be allowed to play. Why should we all suffer in this game due to a racist?




So he shot a character with an offensive character name? DIE ( racist character name) DIE!!

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Voith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-04-01 18:56:46 UTC
Vanir Tsero wrote:
Huma Dragonis wrote:
Vanir Tsero wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

EvE Online is a cut throat gaming environment with evil individuals who will sell your mother to pilot their Tech3. You are getting offended over a derogatory word? Sure, it's widely inappropriate in Real Life, but with many games... There is a pvp solution.

If you don't like getting called names, teach them a lesson. Petitioning to get someone banned is not a legit strategy. It actually goes to show how weak you are.

If your skin isn't thick enough to shrug off such derogatory language, perhaps gaming in general is not for you. You will see this language everywhere. How you react to it is up to you.

Just hunt him down and pod him. Let him swear up and down because of that.

That's the beauty of EvE Online. Anything and Everything goes. The Game is player run. So run it.


This thread is not so much about what he said, but rather the unique response CCP has decided to take when there is no press involved in the incident.


I see nothing wrong with CCP's response. Every single game has individuals who say racist things. I mean hell, anyone who has ever played World of Warcraft know exactly what "Barrens Chat" is.

I'm not racist in the least bit but I will never allow a child to offend me by spouting off ignorant things. I just laugh at his lack of education. Simply reading the word, even knowing it was said in a malicious way does not offend me. Even if it were directed at me.

It comes down to a simple comparison. Someone calls you a Buttface on the playground. At the age of 9, this is extremely offensive. What do you do? Do you run to mommy and tell? Do you sit there, smile and not give a damn? Or do you punch him in the friggn face?

If CCP did something for every single racist comment in EvE Online, we'd have noone to blow up. If you are offended by their chat, put them on block. I support CCP's response in this situation.

I see, so "higher standard" and "in game vs out of game" only applies when it is people you don't like.

Which has been blatantly obvious to everyone with two eyes open this whole time. The Mittani was targeted because he said something stupid and was a goon. No one batted an eye when BoB members wanted to kill, in real life, goons.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-04-01 18:58:19 UTC
Shogun Archer wrote:
Offensive word, yes, but what if the guy that said it was black? You have to figure out if he/she was black first for it to be considered racist... Roll


No, only depends on the humour/believes/whatever of the GM charged of your petition, since this game's rules and forum are mostly player driven each and everyone has his own ones.

Who's right who's wrong? -ask a GM, they have omniscience of truth and law everywhere Lol
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-04-01 19:00:29 UTC
Voith wrote:
Vanir Tsero wrote:
Huma Dragonis wrote:
Vanir Tsero wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

EvE Online is a cut throat gaming environment with evil individuals who will sell your mother to pilot their Tech3. You are getting offended over a derogatory word? Sure, it's widely inappropriate in Real Life, but with many games... There is a pvp solution.

If you don't like getting called names, teach them a lesson. Petitioning to get someone banned is not a legit strategy. It actually goes to show how weak you are.

If your skin isn't thick enough to shrug off such derogatory language, perhaps gaming in general is not for you. You will see this language everywhere. How you react to it is up to you.

Just hunt him down and pod him. Let him swear up and down because of that.

That's the beauty of EvE Online. Anything and Everything goes. The Game is player run. So run it.


This thread is not so much about what he said, but rather the unique response CCP has decided to take when there is no press involved in the incident.


I see nothing wrong with CCP's response. Every single game has individuals who say racist things. I mean hell, anyone who has ever played World of Warcraft know exactly what "Barrens Chat" is.

I'm not racist in the least bit but I will never allow a child to offend me by spouting off ignorant things. I just laugh at his lack of education. Simply reading the word, even knowing it was said in a malicious way does not offend me. Even if it were directed at me.

It comes down to a simple comparison. Someone calls you a Buttface on the playground. At the age of 9, this is extremely offensive. What do you do? Do you run to mommy and tell? Do you sit there, smile and not give a damn? Or do you punch him in the friggn face?

If CCP did something for every single racist comment in EvE Online, we'd have noone to blow up. If you are offended by their chat, put them on block. I support CCP's response in this situation.

I see, so "higher standard" and "in game vs out of game" only applies when it is people you don't like.

Which has been blatantly obvious to everyone with two eyes open this whole time. The Mittani was targeted because he said something stupid and was a goon. No one batted an eye when BoB members wanted to kill, in real life, goons.


We need more evidence then some possibly edited screen caps is all. If its true. Then it needs GM to action it.

Its not like we have a fanfest unedited video to look at or anything.

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Arec Bardwin
#35 - 2012-04-01 19:00:44 UTC
Technically he's saying "NIGGERS1"
Karah Serrigan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-04-01 19:03:00 UTC
Huma Dragonis wrote:
During a major fleet battle today in Tenal, one of the major editors of EveNews24.com decided to type racist remarks in local chat.

[18:05:30] riverini > DIE NIGGERS1 DIE!!!

The CFC members having been negatively affeccted by these racist remarks did the appropriate thing, and began to file petitions with CCP. However, within moments, a GM informed the CFC members that they should no longer file any petitions, and many petitions filed by members are already closed.

The CFC members were then told "just block him"

Blocking someone is not an action that all members of the CFC should have to take because another eve player decides to post racist remarks in local chat.

CCP really should make this pilot abide by TOS and EULA when playing this game, and if he cannot play the game along those lines, then maybe he should not be allowed to play. Why should we all suffer in this game due to a racist?


If i filed one petition for every racist remark typed by goons in local id had as many petitions as your goons combined filed on that case by now.
Stop crying because your dude said something inappropriate live while thousands of people were watching.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-04-01 19:03:58 UTC
I want to see the full unedited screencap.

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-04-01 19:05:55 UTC
Arec Bardwin wrote:
Technically he's saying "NIGGERS1"


So there are no rules in game neither against character racist, insulting or sexual names?

Well actually I'd like to see Evoke and some other german corps post logs of local when they fight but, knowing how polite and above hate those people are, they haven't wasted their time doing so (yet)

If CCP should perma ban people for the insults those receive daily Eve would be rid of half of it's players.

Cya jerks.
Brock Nelson
#39 - 2012-04-01 19:06:06 UTC
Is it me or am I seeing more whine threads than usual?

Signature removed, CCP Phantom
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-04-01 19:07:28 UTC
goon misdirection campaign failure #10058

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