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JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#201 - 2012-03-30 04:56:58 UTC
Banning Mittani is a good move, but CCP should not interfere in any Jita player's event that are withing game rules.
Senarian Tyme
Serenity Rising LLC
Controlled Chaos
#202 - 2012-03-30 05:01:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Senarian Tyme
So what are the odds that CCP rush and deploy the "Suspect" flag and death ray mechanisms ahead of schedule just to coincide with this event? (obviously not on day 1)
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#203 - 2012-03-30 05:39:34 UTC
Senarian Tyme wrote:
So what are the odds that CCP rush and deploy the "Suspect" flag and death ray mechanisms ahead of schedule just to coincide with this event? (obviously not on day 1)


Oh? Never heard of either of those! What are they? (seriously asking, never have! Shocked )

The Moo campaign does bring up good points, but 2003 compared to 2012 do have significant changes. First off, (not sure if possible back then) the ability to destroy/tank concord? I apologize, but 2003 mechanics I dont know much about, other than stuff like stacked modules. Pretty sure that today's eve would be alot more difficult to control the security space. There is also finite amount of fitting as well unless they have a massive production line that can supply the guns that will be lost, guess they can be stockpiled however, just like the ships.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Lenrir Andven
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#204 - 2012-03-30 06:06:09 UTC
Plaude Pollard wrote:
I'm still gonna stick with Rens, Hek and Dodixie. They're nice places to hang out around...

Seriously, though. There are better places than Jita. Have you ever been to Dodixie? Have you ever been to Hek? Have you ever woken up dead-drunk in a moat? There are better places than Jita. Sure, you can buy anything in Jita. But you can buy almost anything in the other trade-hubs, including things you don't really need anyway. I'm actually looking forward to seeing the evolution on the market, since my other two accounts will be going WH-ward pretty soon anyway to get better ores. Who knows. Maybe EVE will benefit, maybe it won't. We'll never know until it happens. Well, I know. You don't. I know I'm going to use the Goons' irrational and immature behavior to earn lots of ISK myself. Have fun dying in a fire, Jita-folks. I'll be standing in my Captain's Quarters in Dodixie, watching it on the monitor, laughing at your extinction. Maybe then you'll realize that there are better places, cold and muddy moats included.


Just woke up so will respond as well as I can.

The main problem is, when people ask, they are pointed to Jita. It is the first place they are immediately told about when it comes to finding anything from skill books to ships to parts. Once they are attached to it, they are attached for good most of the time. That is why, when people 'well there are other places' they are like 'NO WAY, JITA IS BEST.'

So while Jita burns, the lost pubbie will be...well...lost. So while they wallow around, no longer sure of what to do, those that have thought outside the box can chortle and raise their glasses of wine in toast.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#205 - 2012-03-30 06:12:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Dirk Magnum wrote:
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Dirk Magnum wrote:
Dirk's Account Management wrote:
next billing date is 06 March 2013

As much as I want to get my money's worth out of that annual renewal, if CCP really does intervene to stop the chaos... Sad


Wait, did I miss something, did CCP say they would stop such an attack or are you people just dreaming up drama?

Tinfoiling across the meta channels.

Goons are also dreaming of CCP interfering with their actual business so they can prove themselves THE VICTIMS in the case. Or so it at least seems from the forums.

And the idea of shutting down EVE by camping Jita 4-4 is hilarious. I mean seriously, guys. Jita is an important tradehub but I'd guess the majority of players only go there very rarely, if at all. It's more like, if we know all / most Goons are at Jita, it makes space that much safer, since they cannot be in several places at once...
Iron Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#206 - 2012-03-30 06:27:52 UTC
The only "decent" way ccp can interfere is to ship up and stand against them. I'd love them doing that.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#207 - 2012-03-30 06:32:28 UTC
Iron Civire wrote:
The only "decent" way ccp can interfere is to ship up and stand against them. I'd love them doing that.


It would be a good thing, provided they were not cheap about it. During the incursion live events, the CCP played as both sansha and fed navy. Near the end, each faction space had a supercarrier that would show on the field as well, and the two devs would try and kill eachother.

Just saying, what would be neat is the same thing. I am going to think an example here, would be awesome if they did it since it would be a roleplay thing. They should spawn a wyvern or other cap (maybe a couple caps?) in jita with NPC spawns just like how they did in the incursion events. Goons kill the dev, then they can try and get the peeps in the system. On the other hand, that sort of PvE might also destract away from the event since it would be, pve?

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Iron Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#208 - 2012-03-30 07:57:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Iron Civire
Was thinking of roleplay. Shipping in the same way any regulare player would be able to, or even creat a corp, recruit player to stand with them, a bit like mods vs viewers =) IMO it would be a way to interfere without ruining the image of the god of eve, the sandbox, in which so many believe in.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#209 - 2012-03-30 08:03:51 UTC
I agree that CCP playing along would be cool. (Regardless of how they do it.)

However, seeing that CCP involvement in anything, even as the opposition, is always a reward to players, and this event is now tied to the Mittanigate, I wonder if it is appropriate for them to be seen as taking part. Would that not seem to many players as saying "ok, so, the goons have verbally harassed people for years and now their leader stepped out of line, here, have a slap on the wrist and a big cake and a pony"?

(I admit it would feel a little bit like that to me. Even though CCP involvement in anything is always cool. ;))
Damion Rayne
Panoptic
#210 - 2012-03-31 11:24:33 UTC
CCP needs to act, and destroy goons entirely. Goons need to die, period.

ROA
Prince Kobol
#211 - 2012-03-31 11:46:52 UTC
Apparently you can Opt Out

http://www.goonfleet.org/Jita-Opt-Out/index.php

Also the intro was a great piece of comedy


"The Mittani was banned from the EVE universe. Banned because of the pressure that gaming media has exerted on CCP. He was their scapegoat in what some would see as a PR disaster. For this, we will burn Jita on the 28th of April. However, we don't want the EVE economy to collapse in a roaring rampage of bee vengeance. Therefore we give YOU, the heart of the EVE economy the opportunity to "opt out" from this historic event."
moskowitz
Doomheim
#212 - 2012-03-31 12:17:34 UTC  |  Edited by: moskowitz
I could only listen to a few minutes of the tears....I am so glad he is as big a baby as his ego requires

I support your cause Mittani. Weild your sword! you fell on your sword..shot yourself in the foot...then...got run over by a bus (that you were driving btw) and now you want to show us all who's responsible....while shooting the other foot

I love this. Think of it as therapy I guess. Wonderful idea...It is pitiful that you had to get butthurt in order to decide to do something great (your reasoning for this somehow makes me tear up really).

and I extend my apology posthumorusly to you if the above words cast ridicule at you in any form

sincerely

Moskowitz< also famous for not logging in but I like keeping a low profile.
Damion Rayne
Panoptic
#213 - 2012-03-31 12:23:17 UTC
I love it! Goons are such big babies! They are acting just like the "pubbies" they call all of us! It's so comical! I love this, it's just plain funny.

ROA
Tech3ZH
Doomheim
#214 - 2012-03-31 22:04:41 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Senarian Tyme wrote:
So what are the odds that CCP rush and deploy the "Suspect" flag and death ray mechanisms ahead of schedule just to coincide with this event? (obviously not on day 1)


Oh? Never heard of either of those! What are they? (seriously asking, never have! Shocked )

The Moo campaign does bring up good points, but 2003 compared to 2012 do have significant changes. First off, (not sure if possible back then) the ability to destroy/tank concord? I apologize, but 2003 mechanics I dont know much about, other than stuff like stacked modules. Pretty sure that today's eve would be alot more difficult to control the security space. There is also finite amount of fitting as well unless they have a massive production line that can supply the guns that will be lost, guess they can be stockpiled however, just like the ships.



Markus, it was talked about in a presentation at fanfest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syaAPlvp8SY&feature=related
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#215 - 2012-03-31 22:18:35 UTC
Oh man, no one is going to be RUNNING AWAY from Jita, are they? And miss the lol-tastic bonfire of Goons courtesy of CONCORD? I wouldn't miss this for any amount of ISK! LolLolLol

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#216 - 2012-04-01 05:41:54 UTC
Tech3ZH wrote:
[quote=Markus Reese]
Markus, it was talked about in a presentation at fanfest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syaAPlvp8SY&feature=related


Cool, missed that presentation, was a well done one too, cept for the fidgeting and the clicking til he stopped. Personally, I think a direct concord death ray wouldn't be so great. Exception would be if they were stationed in a system somewhere. With a lock time and refire (say at the gates so people can see when they fire) Higher sec, means faster refire and more cannons. This would need to be combined with concord, they cannot remove that nice fleet coming. If it was brought in, need to make it a suppliment, nothing more.

The best way to do it would be comine their ewar with damage instead. Concorde becomes about lockdown, and arriving fast. Their damage means it can take a bit to wear through. Toss up between tank or gank. Death ray would act like a doomsday, just pop. Result would mean some people in a lowsec would need to serve as distraction while others commit crime, add a criminal tactic to it.

Again, would be cool to see the cannons aim and fire. I would sit at the Uedama cannon just to watch them aim and cycle.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#217 - 2012-04-01 07:31:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Gevlin
I am going to find it so funny when the goons don't attack Jita but hit the other 3 market hubs..

in any case this should really hamper bots. for a day or two

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#218 - 2012-04-01 07:33:08 UTC
Gevlin wrote:
I am going to find it so funny when the goons don't attack Jita but hit the other 3 market hubs..

in any case this should really hamper bots. for a day or two

Well the market bots will keep up their merry 0.01 isking or whatever they use (I think some might 0.05 isk or something).

It's like ganking bot miners, except those need to have someone give them a new ship before they can resume mining their ice?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#219 - 2012-04-01 17:01:13 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
WTB ring side SS Jita 4-4


Covert ops! ships, will be a grand show, yarr Pirate

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#220 - 2012-04-01 19:20:52 UTC
Aiden Andraste wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
I think CCP will do whatever is needed to protect the game.
While I am going to find halarity at every turn of this soap opera, I can't help but wonder why you kids think this will have a positive effect?

CCP overreacted in their decision to completely nullify 10000 player opinions. Whether they want to step up that kneejerk response a second time remains to be seen. This has nothing to do with positive or negative. It has everything to do with whether or not the CSM is relevant and whether CCP is shifting toward PR/marketing friendly carebear land or not.




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