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Ring Mining Mechanic, did CCP say Random Spawning?
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Vince Snetterton
#1 - 2012-04-01 15:18:48 UTC
I am too dumb / too lazy to find the info on it.

Did CCP say that the moon goo will be in random location spawns, or in static locations, like an asteroid belt?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#2 - 2012-04-01 15:24:19 UTC
Will one of you guys write up a report on this? My keyboard is really kicking my ass.


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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-01 15:27:33 UTC
From what I gathered you may have to scan down the ring, but you also have to use an asteroid scanner, to scan out where the goo is in the ring, as it will be in random rocks in the ring.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#4 - 2012-04-01 15:38:56 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
I am too dumb / too lazy to find the info on it.

Did CCP say that the moon goo will be in random location spawns, or in static locations, like an asteroid belt?


CCP has mandated that the dumb/ lazy players won't be allowed to do it anyway. So don't worry about it.

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Danfen Fenix
#5 - 2012-04-01 16:11:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Danfen Fenix
Iirc, it would be random within the ring/belts themselves, but appear in 'veins'. Scan down a rock with it in, then another, then another, and you could be pretty sure you've found a string of rocks with it in, that you can follow until it stops, then find a new vein. P

Almost kinda like Battleships, but with mining, and the rocks dont shoot back.
Danfen Fenix
#6 - 2012-04-01 16:12:23 UTC
*edit: oops*
Vince Snetterton
#7 - 2012-04-01 16:24:40 UTC
Danfen Fenix wrote:
Iirc, it would be random within the ring/belts themselves, but appear in 'veins'. Scan down a rock with it in, then another, then another, and you could be pretty sure you've found a string of rocks with it in, that you can follow until it stops, then find a new vein. P

Almost kinda like Battleships, but with mining, and the rocks dont shoot back.



So would these rings randomly spawn within some subset of systems, or would the ring be anchored to a specific system?
Msgerbs
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-04-01 16:33:41 UTC
So moons are now completely pointless. Nice.
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-04-01 16:34:46 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Danfen Fenix wrote:
Iirc, it would be random within the ring/belts themselves, but appear in 'veins'. Scan down a rock with it in, then another, then another, and you could be pretty sure you've found a string of rocks with it in, that you can follow until it stops, then find a new vein. P

Almost kinda like Battleships, but with mining, and the rocks dont shoot back.



So would these rings randomly spawn within some subset of systems, or would the ring be anchored to a specific system?


I would imagine they will have to identify certain celestials to have stable rings to explore for these purposes to find random sources. But again it's still mere speculation based on realism of current understanding of astronomy. This feature has only really been dicussed by CCP at the concept stage so far, no real fleshing out of specifics as yet.

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Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#10 - 2012-04-01 16:34:59 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Danfen Fenix wrote:
Iirc, it would be random within the ring/belts themselves, but appear in 'veins'. Scan down a rock with it in, then another, then another, and you could be pretty sure you've found a string of rocks with it in, that you can follow until it stops, then find a new vein. P

Almost kinda like Battleships, but with mining, and the rocks dont shoot back.



So would these rings randomly spawn within some subset of systems, or would the ring be anchored to a specific system?

I would imagine that they would be in low/null.

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Danfen Fenix
#11 - 2012-04-01 16:40:31 UTC
Msgerbs wrote:
So moons are now completely pointless. Nice.


Nope, its just giving the little guy a piece of the cake as well. A smaller piece of course, as being the little guy he doesn't need as much cake P
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-04-01 16:40:48 UTC
Msgerbs wrote:
So moons are now completely pointless. Nice.


I don't recall them stating that moon's would be supplanted.

I also don't recall them stating that roid belts would be going away but would be cool if they did.

Will be a nice change so my miners don't go AFK and get themselves killed anymore.

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Vince Snetterton
#13 - 2012-04-01 16:48:12 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Danfen Fenix wrote:
Iirc, it would be random within the ring/belts themselves, but appear in 'veins'. Scan down a rock with it in, then another, then another, and you could be pretty sure you've found a string of rocks with it in, that you can follow until it stops, then find a new vein. P

Almost kinda like Battleships, but with mining, and the rocks dont shoot back.



So would these rings randomly spawn within some subset of systems, or would the ring be anchored to a specific system?


I would imagine they will have to identify certain celestials to have stable rings to explore for these purposes to find random sources. But again it's still mere speculation based on realism of current understanding of astronomy. This feature has only really been dicussed by CCP at the concept stage so far, no real fleshing out of specifics as yet.


Ah, OK. I was working under the assumption that this change goes live with Inferno.
If it is just at a concept stage, then we are looking at winter release, at the earliest.
ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-04-01 16:50:45 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
If it is just at a concept stage, then we are looking at winter release, at the earliest.


It's not even in design yet. Forget release dates.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#15 - 2012-04-01 16:52:41 UTC
Danfen Fenix wrote:
Msgerbs wrote:
So moons are now completely pointless. Nice.

Nope, its just giving the little guy a piece of the cake as well. A smaller piece of course, as being the little guy he doesn't need as much cake P

If the little guy wants to grow up to be an alliance of elite pvpers with pets, he'll reach for the moons and titans on his own.

Aww, but they're so cute when they have their first 50 man fleet of rifters with a few thrashers.

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Tobiaz
Spacerats
#16 - 2012-04-01 21:57:01 UTC
CCP thought Mass Effect 2 was awsum, so they decided o steal the idea and apply it to planetary rings. Thus applying a boring mechanic to a ridiculous concept.

Why are all the fanboys drooling over the concept of mining planetary rings anyway? It are only rocks of ice the largest a few metres across but most of it you can put in your glass and pour whiskey on. If you want to mine that crap, you'll have more use for a butterflynet strapped to your ship then something else.

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Adunh Slavy
#17 - 2012-04-01 21:59:10 UTC
Msgerbs wrote:
So moons are now completely pointless. Nice.



Even if they did move ALL moon mins to rings n rocks, you have to use a reactor at some point along the way.

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-04-01 22:08:47 UTC
Msgerbs wrote:
So moons are now completely pointless. Nice.


No, you need them to set your pos AND to ring mining, but you can't do it any more without effort. You have to do it with an Hulk or some dedicated ship from now on.

The good thing is that you don't have to do it you can sit in a station and trade witch is undoubtedly the only game segment you don't have to put whatever effort in training. You can but you don't have to.
It's also the part of the game with the lowest to none fee once you've trained some skills (goes really quick) and 0 risk.

So why are you wining about moons?
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#19 - 2012-04-02 02:47:08 UTC
Msgerbs wrote:
So moons are now completely pointless. Nice.


I hope the Moons for the most part stay the same & have not heard they will be otherwise. Hopefully the ring mining mechanics though will add more goo to the markets & supplement the stocks to a much smaller extent... now how/when will nano ribbons monopoly be wrestled from W-space?
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Verocity
8 Virtues
#20 - 2012-04-02 02:58:50 UTC
Greyscale specifically stated that he would rather have you and 9 friends mine moon goo than have large alliances treat it as an "ATM" for ISK. What I took away from this was no more minerals in the moon for a POS to vacuum. Manual effort in the form of mining will be required.
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