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Prevent players from activating their weapons on other players in highsec unless not in war
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Ensign eNig
Perkone
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-04-01 12:16:41 UTC
OP, this wasn't your ship was it?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12900283

If it was you, if you could possibly wire me the 18 billion you owe me, that would be wonderful.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#42 - 2012-04-01 12:20:18 UTC
Ensign eNig wrote:
OP, this wasn't your ship was it?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12900283

If it was you, if you could possibly wire me the 18 billion you owe me, that would be wonderful.



Drop denied Ugh sacrifice more exotic dancers to the loot gods Pirate

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Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#43 - 2012-04-01 12:21:20 UTC
CCP are closing high sec, it's causing far too much trouble on the forums.

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HELIC0N ONE
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-04-01 12:26:45 UTC
Zaaark Quasar wrote:
Stop suicide ganking.


We've barely even started.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-04-01 12:32:52 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Wow, quite the collection of 'DEAL WITH IT' wanna be's posting in this thread.

OP has a valid point, suicide attacks are slowly chasing away new subscription revenue that CCP is trying to gain. As long as the Bounty system remains broken with no viable Bountyhunter mechanic available in this game, suicide attacks will continue to dominate high security unchecked.

Heh, high security, now that's definitely the biggest misrepresentation in use within this game.

Anyway, I'm sure within the next couple of years, this game will see some drastic changes made to the game mechanics to resolve that problem, especially with little ole CCP now teaming up with big brother Sony.


OP, best to just ignore the obvious troll posts. Easy to see which ones they are due to the sarcastic inept one liner reply.

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So Sensational
Ventures
#46 - 2012-04-01 12:37:55 UTC
Zaaark Quasar wrote:
Stop suicide ganking.

I agree, remove Concord, let players defend themselves.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-04-01 12:39:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Wow, quite the collection of 'DEAL WITH IT' wanna be's posting in this thread.

OP has a valid point, suicide attacks are slowly chasing away new subscription revenue that CCP is trying to gain. As long as the Bounty system remains broken with no viable Bountyhunter mechanic available in this game, suicide attacks will continue to dominate high security unchecked.

Heh, high security, now that's definitely the biggest misrepresentation in use within this game.

Anyway, I'm sure within the next couple of years, this game will see some drastic changes made to the game mechanics to resolve that problem, especially with little ole CCP now teaming up with big brother Sony.


Denial, its a helluva drug. It's becoming more hardcore and visceral. By all means tell yourself repeating your demand in the form of inevitability controls this community.

CCP could have sold out a long time ago when things were really bad. Subs were minimum. They have built up a revenue with players who love hardcore gameplay. The carrot and stick routine the PVE crowd dangle with the promise of subs and good times mean jack **** at this point. They don't need your money. If however you care for EVE's style of gameplay your money is absolutely welcome.

<--- Will play EVE until the day he dies or no longer can as long as the game remains violent and visceral. Doesn't require scripted raids or content either just death and new ways of bringing it to other players. Is loyal to a company that remains loyal to its self and stated goal. Can't be lured away by eye candy and promises. Will spend money regularly in game happily for more ISK to bring death to other players. Doesn't whine nor cry nor beg for mercy and changes when things do not go his way. Represents a solid portion of EVEs playerbase.
Ur235
Appetite 4 Destruction
#48 - 2012-04-01 12:40:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Ur235
Why dont you just put your cargo into a damn courier contract or a freight container then when ppl scan you there not going to know what you have thus reducing the chance of you being suicide ganked massivley

And if your a miner in a 150mill mining ship then why dont you fit some sort of tank? Hell even a hull tank with reinforced bulkheads and a damage control II could reduce your chances of being ganked significantly. You may have to sacrifice cargo hold to fit a tank, but then again I have to sacrifice dps to fit a armour tank on my pvp ships so I really dont see how you can complain about that

You could even train for ECM drones when your mining launch them and set them to agressive so if some one does try suicide ganking you theres a chance they can be jammed for 10 seconds or more which gives you more time to escape, tank or for concord to arrive

There are options you just have to explore them

hmm
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-04-01 12:42:53 UTC
Zaaark Quasar wrote:
Stop suicide ganking.

It´s totally out of balance, there isn´t any other counter on it than not logging in or sitting in station. It doesn´t add anything in the sandbox, it just makes CCP lose subscriptions.

Suicide ganking is not pvp content, it´s just griefing.

Pilots that don´f have balls, should grow a pair and go to 0.0 or lowsec, or drop a war declaration. Those are good for the game.

One reason for EVE online low subscription number is the fact that this game is ******** towards new players and pve players.

PVE players do bring the same cash flow to CCP and if someone wants to spend 15$ montly just for shooting npc´s then so what? It doesn´t take anything away from 'pvp' pilots.

Suicide ganking doesn´t have any valid reasoning behind it, it´s just seriously bad game design.

CCP should really show some respect on all those players who pays their paychecks.



Don't listen to all the people bad mouthing you. They all suck so bad that they have had to grind out cash to replace the 100's of ships they have lost, and because misery loves company they think you should have to do the same.

They are just angry at themselves really, and because no one wants to yell at themselves they come here and yell at you.

Don't violence me bro!
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2012-04-01 12:44:07 UTC
So Sensational wrote:
Zaaark Quasar wrote:
Stop suicide ganking.

I agree, remove Concord, let players defend themselves.



I am actually for the removal of concorde. At least then I could just quit Eve and stop having to deal with monstrous grey area that keeps expanding and contracting.

Don't violence me bro!
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-04-01 12:47:34 UTC
Ensign eNig wrote:
OP, this wasn't your ship was it?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12900283

If it was you, if you could possibly wire me the 18 billion you owe me, that would be wonderful.


If the guy in that killmail came here whining I would have to get on board with the rest of you and yell at him. Hauling 18 billion in Jita in a transport ship? It makes my soft carebear eyes bleed.

Don't violence me bro!
Francisco Bizzaro
#52 - 2012-04-01 12:48:01 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

OP has a valid point, suicide attacks are slowly chasing away new subscription revenue that CCP is trying to gain.

What are these new subscribers flying that are so gank-worthy?

Quote:

Heh, high security, now that's definitely the biggest misrepresentation in use within this game.

I don't know what sec status my home town has, but Concord respond a hell of a lot quicker than the local cops and have a better success record at catching the bad guys. What more do you want from a police force? Seems pretty high-security to me.
Sidiion
ATHANOR AQUISISTIONS
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#53 - 2012-04-01 12:48:08 UTC
Quote:
One reason for EVE online low subscription number is the fact that this game is ******** towards new players and pve players.



yeh bcos everyone with subscriptions obviously never started out new......Roll


just grow up and stop whining, nowhere is safe
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#54 - 2012-04-01 12:48:57 UTC
I'll admit to being a complete carebear who doesn't indulge in PVP as such, yeah I screw people on the markets etc but I don't shoot at anything that isn't a red cross. With the amount of shiptoasting that's been spewing out of the "I'm a carebear and PVP'rs are doing it wrong crowd" I'm seriously considering buying up a ton of disposable ships and collecting me some tears Pirate.

I used to get annoyed at the HTFU attitude of the PVP folks, after a couple of years in game I'm beginning to agree with them and rapidly beginning to see why they enjoy taunting us poor bears, some people just don't deserve to be in the same universe as the rest of us and I'm not talking about the PVP crowd.

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Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-04-01 12:52:48 UTC
Francisco Bizzaro wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

OP has a valid point, suicide attacks are slowly chasing away new subscription revenue that CCP is trying to gain.

What are these new subscribers flying that are so gank-worthy?

Quote:

Heh, high security, now that's definitely the biggest misrepresentation in use within this game.

I don't know what sec status my home town has, but Concord respond a hell of a lot quicker than the local cops and have a better success record at catching the bad guys. What more do you want from a police force? Seems pretty high-security to me.



Thats because your local police don't have SPACESHIPS with WARP DRIVE duhhh!

Don't violence me bro!
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2012-04-01 12:54:10 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I'll admit to being a complete carebear who doesn't indulge in PVP as such, yeah I screw people on the markets etc but I don't shoot at anything that isn't a red cross. With the amount of shiptoasting that's been spewing out of the "I'm a carebear and PVP'rs are doing it wrong crowd" I'm seriously considering buying up a ton of disposable ships and collecting me some tears Pirate.

I used to get annoyed at the HTFU attitude of the PVP folks, after a couple of years in game I'm beginning to agree with them and rapidly beginning to see why they enjoy taunting us poor bears, some people just don't deserve to be in the same universe as the rest of us and I'm not talking about the PVP crowd.



Oh Gawd, bittervet syndrome is setting in. Quick, go mine something!

Don't violence me bro!
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-04-01 12:55:02 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Zaaark Quasar wrote:
Really, these npc alt forum spammers are the minority in EVE.
We know you are. That's why we're saying “No” to your OP.



Tippia, you're such an angry muffin.

Don't violence me bro!
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#58 - 2012-04-01 12:59:27 UTC
Pillowtalk wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I'll admit to being a complete carebear who doesn't indulge in PVP as such, yeah I screw people on the markets etc but I don't shoot at anything that isn't a red cross. With the amount of shiptoasting that's been spewing out of the "I'm a carebear and PVP'rs are doing it wrong crowd" I'm seriously considering buying up a ton of disposable ships and collecting me some tears Pirate.

I used to get annoyed at the HTFU attitude of the PVP folks, after a couple of years in game I'm beginning to agree with them and rapidly beginning to see why they enjoy taunting us poor bears, some people just don't deserve to be in the same universe as the rest of us and I'm not talking about the PVP crowd.



Oh Gawd, bittervet syndrome is setting in. Quick, go mine something!


Don't have enough time behind me for bittervet syndrome Straight, although I am a member of Failheap so I'm slowly heading down that road Cool

and ugh mining, I'd rather flay myself and rub salt into the wounds than do that again

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#59 - 2012-04-01 13:01:14 UTC
**** this ******* **** faggotry

I want CCP to put this in on their ******* front page in HUGE BOLD LETTERS:

NOTE: EVE Online is NOT a ******* PVE game - go play solitaire or tetris is you don't want to play with other humans, wanker



(I'm okay with the Marketing dpt making some minor tweaks to the wording)

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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#60 - 2012-04-01 13:12:43 UTC
If you are getting repeatedly suicide ganked so that you lose more to the ganks that you make doing whatever it is you are doing while getting ganked - you are doing it wrong.

I agree that the things that now count as exploits made suicide ganking a little unbalanced - too easy compared to losses you took - but I strongly agree with CCP that it's a thing to keep in the game, just in a balanced way.