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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#121 - 2012-04-01 08:20:53 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
I can honestly say it has nothing to do with politics for me considering 2 of my votes went to kittens.

In regards to Issler, well if it wasn't for the goons and CFC members **** posting in her CSM thread should would of never got the votes she did because nobody knew or cared who she was until you guys turned up.

That actually really annoyed me because she is the worse kind of CSM Candidate and the kind of person who should have zero input into anything, let alone a say on major decisions about the direction of the game.

Darius, I see little difference between the Goons and Darius and I know either of you will not like that but its true.


Don't worry about Issler. She will continue to have no actual influence on the CSM, just like before. She'll warm another seat just like her friend Darius III.

THe difference between Goons and Darius III, is that goons actually give two fucks about this game. Darius, despite his insistence, does not, as evidenced by his lack of activity on CSM6. You can ask any of the other CSM6 members about that.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Townsend Harris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#122 - 2012-04-01 08:21:26 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Townsend Harris wrote:
Thats just the Pony guys

Do ponies have wallets.


Not anymore
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#123 - 2012-04-01 08:22:06 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
they really are you should see some of what they are doing in the other threads.

This whole thing is turning into a condemnation of Goons and the culture they have as a whole.


As a non-Goon - I see it as the reverse. After a human being has apologised, tried restitution, been punished - I see a group of people still out with their pitchforks and witch-hunt. That is a pretty damning condemnation of you and those like you to me - people with no capacity to forgive, understand or move on.

But, difference of opinion there. It does not leave me surprised the Goonswarm is responding to you lot though.

Actually, you need to check out all the latest tweets, blogs, voice speeches, etc that The Mittani has been doing before making your 'Bla bla bla' silver tongued statements about 'Vigilante Witch Hunts'. What I see is you proactively white knighting using any kind of excuse that you can fly, purely with the intention of clouding the issue and redirecting attention elsewhere, doing it all in true Goon fashion.

And I'm not gonna fall for your bullcrap misdirection trick of 'Burden of Proof' since the proof has already been posted in countless other threads.

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Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#124 - 2012-04-01 08:23:02 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
No we are upset with Alex the man, because he was telling people to try to get someone to kill themselves for real.


He has apologised.
He has sent The Wis all his ISK.
He has resigned as chair of the CSM.
He has been removed from the CSM by CCP.
He has been given a 30 day ban.
He has had his real life address posted.
He has had his wife threatened with sexual violation.

What more do you want? Do you want him to be dragged through the streets and whipped? Oh wait ... you're RougeOperator. I remember you now from where The Mittani apologised. You were in there along with DMC saying how he deserved those last few things that happened to him / speaking in support of it / generally condoning it. (Take your pick of which - I forget which it was exactly).


They don't see it that way. They don't see the Mittens as a real person. He's a video game character, or an image in a fanfest clip. Or some noise coming out of a soundcloud recording. There is nothing we can say that will make these people associate what has happened to him as something happening to a real person. They're too deluded and socially inept for that to work.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Ai Shun
#125 - 2012-04-01 08:24:51 UTC
Revolution Rising wrote:
This guy is a turd, I can't believe all the goons cannot see through his perception management routines.


Oh! Poetic Stanziel just shiptoasted and made me realise - the rest of the world is catching up to us now and it's the 1st of April! Nice one Revolution; you sure got the forum going P
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#126 - 2012-04-01 08:26:30 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
He has apologised.
He has sent The Wis all his ISK.
He has resigned as chair of the CSM.
He has been removed from the CSM by CCP.
He has been given a 30 day ban.
He has had his real life address posted.
He has had his wife threatened with sexual violation.

What more do you want? Do you want him to be dragged through the streets and whipped? Oh wait ... you're RougeOperator. I remember you now from where The Mittani apologised. You were in there along with DMC saying how he deserved those last few things that happened to him / speaking in support of it / generally condoning it. (Take your pick of which - I forget which it was exactly).

Ah, is that so. Where did that happen? Just curious ...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#127 - 2012-04-01 08:26:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Xen Solarus
Ai Shun wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
No we are upset with Alex the man, because he was telling people to try to get someone to kill themselves for real.


He has apologised.
He has sent The Wis all his ISK.
He has resigned as chair of the CSM.
He has been removed from the CSM by CCP.
He has been given a 30 day ban.
He has had his real life address posted.
He has had his wife threatened with sexual violation.

What more do you want? Do you want him to be dragged through the streets and whipped?


I thought the matter settled with the CCP ruling. I thought the threadnaughts would stop and we could all be happy with the decision. But Mittani seems bent on keeping the flame alight. Now its been combined with the ganking issue, something thats already got enough interest and debate at it is. Burning Jita is just keeping this thing rolling. Oh, and Mittani's ability to express who differing points of view similtaniously is always impressive. "I apologize" to "I've been wronged!". Classic.

And continue it shall! I'll get some more popcorn and enjoy the Goon-tears.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#128 - 2012-04-01 08:27:12 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
No we are upset with Alex the man, because he was telling people to try to get someone to kill themselves for real.


He has apologised.
He has sent The Wis all his ISK.
He has resigned as chair of the CSM.
He has been removed from the CSM by CCP.
He has been given a 30 day ban.
He has had his real life address posted.
He has had his wife threatened with sexual violation.

What more do you want? Do you want him to be dragged through the streets and whipped? Oh wait ... you're RougeOperator. I remember you now from where The Mittani apologised. You were in there along with DMC saying how he deserved those last few things that happened to him / speaking in support of it / generally condoning it. (Take your pick of which - I forget which it was exactly).



What they want is an in game result. This has never had anything to do with moral outrage, it is only because the vultures saw a chance to get a result that they believe will harm the CFC. Nothing anyone says will change their stance simply for that fact.

If this had anything to do with morality, laws or protecting people the outrage would now focus on the people theratening a woman who doesnt even play Eve. They wont, because that would give no in game result.

The best thing everyone can now do is drop it until they rage themselves out, the same as you do with unmanageable children, let them scream and kick adn throw themselves around until they tire themselves out and go to sleep.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#129 - 2012-04-01 08:27:27 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:

He has had his real life address posted.
He has had his wife threatened with sexual violation.

What more do you want? Do you want him to be dragged through the streets and whipped? Oh wait ... you're RougeOperator. I remember you now from where The Mittani apologised. You were in there along with DMC saying how he deserved those last few things that happened to him / speaking in support of it / generally condoning it. (Take your pick of which - I forget which it was exactly).


They don't see it that way. They don't see the Mittens as a real person. He's a video game character, or an image in a fanfest clip. Or some noise coming out of a soundcloud recording. There is nothing we can say that will make these people associate what has happened to him as something happening to a real person. They're too deluded and socially inept for that to work.

I don't think the ingame character has a wife to be threatened.

I don't think ingame characters get married, actually.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#130 - 2012-04-01 08:27:36 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:

I thought the matter settled with the CCP ruling. I thought the threadnaughts would stop and we could all be happy with the decision. But Mittani seems bent on keeping the flame alight.


You'll note that every one of these threads was started by pubbie filth.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Spring Blue
Lamorei Prosapia Vexillum
#131 - 2012-04-01 08:27:52 UTC
That where your wrong, for the first time were seeing the real person behind the mittani, and its disturbing. To the point that we don't want him in the game, and again by you defending him you put yourself closer to the real mittani than any character he's portrayed.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#132 - 2012-04-01 08:28:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Rico Minali wrote:
What they want is an in game result. This has never had anything to do with moral outrage, it is only because the vultures saw a chance to get a result that they believe will harm the CFC. Nothing anyone says will change their stance simply for that fact.

If this had anything to do with morality, laws or protecting people the outrage would now focus on the people theratening a woman who doesnt even play Eve. They wont, because that would give no in game result.

The best thing everyone can now do is drop it until they rage themselves out, the same as you do with unmanageable children, let them scream and kick adn throw themselves around until they tire themselves out and go to sleep.

No, we can't let it happen. It's like a perpetual motion machine of pubbie rage, and it can't be stopped just like you can't ignore an AOE remote DD applied directly to your rifter.

Besides what does the dog and wife have to do with it? They should just be not worried about? I mean his address is there, so it's not like these are entities that aren't connected with an actual location.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Kehro Urgus
Dark Nebula Academy
O X I D E
#133 - 2012-04-01 08:28:53 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Xen Solarus wrote:

I thought the matter settled with the CCP ruling. I thought the threadnaughts would stop and we could all be happy with the decision. But Mittani seems bent on keeping the flame alight.


You'll note that every one of these threads was started by pubbie filth.


Even 'pubbie filth' have grown tired.

Yeeee! 
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#134 - 2012-04-01 08:28:59 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
they really are you should see some of what they are doing in the other threads.

This whole thing is turning into a condemnation of Goons and the culture they have as a whole.


As a non-Goon - I see it as the reverse. After a human being has apologised, tried restitution, been punished - I see a group of people still out with their pitchforks and witch-hunt. That is a pretty damning condemnation of you and those like you to me - people with no capacity to forgive, understand or move on.

But, difference of opinion there. It does not leave me surprised the Goonswarm is responding to you lot though.

Actually, you need to check out all the latest tweets, blogs, voice speeches, etc that The Mittani has been doing before making your 'Bla bla bla' silver tongued statements about 'Vigilante Witch Hunts'. What I see is you proactively white knighting using any kind of excuse that you can fly, purely with the intention of clouding the issue and redirecting attention elsewhere, doing it all in true Goon fashion.

And I'm not gonna fall for your bullcrap misdirection trick of 'Burden of Proof' since the proof has already been posted in countless other threads.


We're actually members of a PR firm hired by The Mittani about 3 months ago.

Tarsus Zateki wrote:
They're too deluded and socially inept


bingo
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#135 - 2012-04-01 08:29:12 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Xen Solarus wrote:

I thought the matter settled with the CCP ruling. I thought the threadnaughts would stop and we could all be happy with the decision. But Mittani seems bent on keeping the flame alight.


You'll note that every one of these threads was started by pubbie filth.


Generally now because of high-sec ganking gone mad though.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#136 - 2012-04-01 08:29:23 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Xen Solarus wrote:

I thought the matter settled with the CCP ruling. I thought the threadnaughts would stop and we could all be happy with the decision. But Mittani seems bent on keeping the flame alight.


You'll note that every one of these threads was started by pubbie filth.


QFT

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#137 - 2012-04-01 08:30:49 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:

The best thing everyone can now do is drop it until they rage themselves out, the same as you do with unmanageable children, let them scream and kick adn throw themselves around until they tire themselves out and go to sleep.


Two problems, the first of which is that it's not as funny. Second, there's people on these forums who have been raging for, literally, years at us.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#138 - 2012-04-01 08:31:09 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
You'll note that every one of these threads was started by pubbie filth.


Generally now because of high-sec ganking gone mad though.

Was it even us? I hope not because we're at war, and it isn't (right now anyway) with the mission runners and miners.

Well, actually.. does PL make money from l4 mission running?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Prince Kobol
#139 - 2012-04-01 08:31:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Lapine Davion wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
I can honestly say it has nothing to do with politics for me considering 2 of my votes went to kittens.

In regards to Issler, well if it wasn't for the goons and CFC members **** posting in her CSM thread should would of never got the votes she did because nobody knew or cared who she was until you guys turned up.

That actually really annoyed me because she is the worse kind of CSM Candidate and the kind of person who should have zero input into anything, let alone a say on major decisions about the direction of the game.

Darius, I see little difference between the Goons and Darius and I know either of you will not like that but its true.


Don't worry about Issler. She will continue to have no actual influence on the CSM, just like before. She'll warm another seat just like her friend Darius III.

THe difference between Goons and Darius III, is that goons actually give two fucks about this game. Darius, despite his insistence, does not, as evidenced by his lack of activity on CSM6. You can ask any of the other CSM6 members about that.


That may well be the case but you see this is were the Goons have a really big problem, sometimes its actually better not to post at all.

Issler is one clear example of this, so was the Kittens apology thread.

Many people probably believed his apology was sincere and were ready just to drop the matter, but then you had numerous Goons and CFC members trying to say what he did was okay in a thread that Kittens himself created saying he was wrong !!!

On top of that you had a couple of Goons actually create posts saying how in a couple of days they will be laughing at everybody and that nobody gives **** including kittens..

So what you had was a perfectly manageable situation that most likely would of just died down, instead you provided the spark that turn it to a blazing inferno.

A lot of people were waiting for Goons/CFC Members to post something moronically stupid so they could jump all over you guys and for some reason you gave it to them.

Once that happened you simply gave CCP no choice, they had to ban him and remove him from the CSM.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#140 - 2012-04-01 08:31:38 UTC
Spring Blue wrote:
That where your wrong, for the first time were seeing the real person behind the mittani, and its disturbing. To the point that we don't want him in the game, and again by you defending him you put yourself closer to the real mittani than any character he's portrayed.


You obviously haven't seen anything. You saw a guy act like a drunken idiot at fanfest. He's not like that 24/7. And if he has to be an aggressive ******* now, what do you expect? He's been treated like crap by all of you without relent even after he's apologized, fallen on his sword and been thrown under a bus.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.