EVE General Discussion

Double post fun

Oh. Make no mistake. EVE isn't the only game people are disillusioned with. There comes a time when all you're doing is meaningless repetitive action...facerolling. A huge migration hasn't occurred yet as there hasn't been an offering that measures up. However, nobody ran gleefully back to their "other" games, either.

One has to wonder if any developers have what it takes to meet rising expectations. Having blown through the content, what next? Most games have all lost their initial design teams, either through corporate/game design friction, or paring back payrolls to obtain some black ink.

SWOR set a record for EA with their pre-release sales, as in: Blew all others before it out of the water. This shows more an overall dissatisfaction with what's currently available than it does high expectations that SWOR will meet...high expectations.

This corporate takeover of video games has been handled clumsily, thoughtlessly and foolishly by everyone in the racket. In fact, game design and corporate management are so removed from each other, deciding to go for the black ink is the death knell for all game design.

The question is: Will SWOR dodge that bullet? They've had plenty of lead time. They've seen the mistakes made by others, most of which were fatal. And, they can even see the thread by which EVE now hangs. It is true. If SWOR does cover all the bases, regardless of what "type" of game it is, it'll put a significant dent in the player bases of all existing games.

Don't forget the single most important feature of video games; occupying the players' time. If that is done engagingly, regardless of what type of game it is, there won't be very many people running back to their old digs, except for the sake of nostalgia.

If SWOR doesn't pass muster, and that will take a bit of time to determine, video games across the board can be said to have hit a wall. Coming back to EVE, or LOTRO, or WoW just to diddle around won't have as much appeal, and there will be this huge, hungry market out there unrequited and verging on resignation - this must be as far as it goes.

Then, I've seen people staring at blinking yellow lights at intersections totally lost to the world - a creeping vegetative state.

I wont be going off to play the star wars game, running around as a jedi? sounds pretty boring. As for any space flying/fighting i can garantee its going to be so arcadish and stupid. Just have something heavy to hold down the 'shoot' key and off you go!

I enjoyed playing freelancer but even that is pretty arcadish, though you do have to factor missile reloads and weapon energy drain - complex!

Your insight is surpassed only by your good looks.

Bingo. I got in on the beta too, and had two copies on pre-order for my family. We canceled both of them. It didn't take long at all to start skipping the voice acting, since regardless of the voice acting, you still got crappy quests. I didn't want to sit through a few minutes of dialogue only to be told to go kill 10 of this, collect 5 of this. The graphics look like a game that came out in 2005. Most games I've played any time in, including the themepark ones like WOW or Rift, they grab you right from the beginning. TOR I was having to force myself to keep playing - there are some better F2P games out there.

They will sell plenty of box copies, but there's nothing different in it that you would find in any typical themepark game. There's nothing even innovative at all, its just WOW with lightsabers and wookies. At least some of the themeparks out there TRIED to do something a little different in their gameplay, but with TOR it is the same old game. And if I'm going to go play a themepark game, there are several out there that do a much better job at it. I like Star Wars, but not enough to overcome what a pile of refuse this game is. At least the voice actors probably got paid well. I'd give it a year or so and it will go F2P, the game play just isn't good enough to stand up to the other themepark games out there.

I find it completely hilarious people complain about the very existence of WIS, however at the same time would embrace a game that is designed around an avatar.

This is just another MMO like all the others that are out there.
Grinding levels all day, or at least for the first week until the game is played out.
Thanks but no, I will pass.

Or possibly it will lead to them saying "we want a piece of the action" and start a race to the bottom.

To the OP - you are sooooo out of touch, I'm sure you don't know what you're talking about.

If you had any clue at all, you would have noticed that Tanks and Perpetuum have long since had a palatable welcome for leaving EVE players.
You mistakenly assume that just "space" is the dominating factor for your average EVE player....

Many on this forum claim that WIS detractors are just a vocal minority, and that most welcome the avatar based ‘gameplay’, even in limited scope. These players would be very tempted by a quality game where flying in space is limited in scope and the avatar gameplay is the main attraction.


Doing missions is probably equivalent to that. In the past couple of years I tried running missions a few times and found them to be very dangerous because I kept falling asleep.


No, but then those are not the people we are talking about.


This depends much more on the quality of the game, rather than on the ‘grindfest’ game mechanics that have been proven to satisfy millions. Add to that the SCi-fi setting and you have something that could be exactly what these players are looking for.

Well let's see, I could sub to TOR and EVE simultaneously, get inevitably bored with TOR and have wasted my money, or...I could just wait for Guild Wars 2, play a much better game, and not have to pay two sub fees.