EVE General Discussion

To the OP. Play EvE however you wan't. If some other scrub tells you to do something else, tell them to **** off.

I find it funny that the 0.0 cannot deal with their incursions in their space when one spawns but can go to empire and run them all day with no issue. The thing is most have no idea how to deal with them out there and when there was an offer to come out and pop them the mighty 0.0 alliance blocks said sure and popped a few that came out to help them and since then have not bothered to assist them in that.

So the incursion runners learn quick and realize that the 0.0 guys are only out to pop anyone that is no blue. So now when an incursion pops in 0.0 space and said alliance has screwed because its in a main pipeline for them no one will come out to help them.

Personally, I think a change to nullsec and to start with lowsec needs to come from income. Myself, I have been cruising and making my income in low and null since 2009, but never left living highsec until late 2011. The actual living in highsec isnt that big of a deal.

What is needed is the balance of risk/reward. For me, I sacrificed reward for the risk factor. I ran solo without any form of scouts to exploration sites in low and null. When I found treasure, was good and fun, though annoying sometimes to get through. This is the place to start.

Industrials: We need to rebalance production items to suit this. No matter the source, highsec items should not be able to yield lowsec ores. With dronelands change, the only other source will be reprocessing. This in itself wouldn't be so bad, except for the npc drops. Have to make sure that any reprocessing makes it very difficult or rare to get morphite and your ABC minerals. Not enough though. More diversity in industrial ships. For low and null ores, we never want to went out because any industrial ship was useless for the task. Need large size industrial ships. Not more mining lasers, that would be fail. But maybe droneboat variations that still can get the mining lasers (at less bonus) or ones that can use missiles with strong effective tanks. Covert ops or other support type of industrials as well. Ideally some sort of T3 maybe.

Combat: They are highsec, and like me enjoyed the sort of peeps and playstyle assorted with it. Not quite ready to make a permanent low/nullsec move. There really isn't a whole lot that can be improved on this right now because I found exploration to be a fairly good way. It can take a long while to do the sites and they are risky for rewards typically only on par with highsec. Though don't want to make them farmable or meta items will flood the market, drop value and be back to start. Ships and basic architecture are all there, but not really enticing.

The best way I feel is adding tactical sites. Much like how the pirate epics are ran with small ships, we need to do the same for these sites. Have interconnected systems that encourage players to have to do certain sites as a team of ships. Split through different gates, two people hold one area from npcs while two more have to go to another area. Rewards sort of scalable. Because they require multiple people, they are alot less farmable for convenience than other sorts, but for active groups, they can be more fun and reward isk wize than anything highsec.

That is another good point, more rewarding. The risk reward isn't really there for highsec. The whole isk earning system needs to have a form of balance cap. Only way is ships need to die more in pve. Now this kind of runs to a whole idea of the same sort of idea as incursion, multiple people in a pve, and randomizations. If ships can no longer spec fit to a mission, a player can make a mistake easier and die. Make it so staying highsec running lvl 4 is fine if you are satisfied with having to replace your domi or raven a couple times a month. However if you want the isk to use the big toys, then you are going to really need to head out to where real money is. Small fleet things the same. You can run with a big fleet and guarantee victory, but no isk will be made really. So a balance would become key.

As you hit the other sec status areas, in low and null, we need to figure out how these ships can be more viable. Possibly sec stations need to form more about the sec status of the pirates flying them. Below -5, empire stations refuse docking. Above 5, maybe pirates. Just a thought. But idea is there. Want T3 and faction type money you need to hit low. Multibil capitals implants and fits, need to get to null. You can afford them in highsec, but buying anything outside a T1 battleship should start getting very pricey.

Is it OK if I just base in Empire, and trespass in your backyard occasionally?


I love coming home with a hull full of goodies without the overhead if nullsec neckbeard politics.

Tbh....I don't see much difference between neckbeard politics or real politics. It's all very amusing and sad at the same time. Hmmmm. *strokes neckbeard*

Absolutley against the farms and fields idea of monopolising all sources of abc minerals. That is just an enforcement to control those sources as a direct manipulation to the economy. The idea of HS already loosing its morphite source with loss of drone sources will likley go through.

This will do nothing really to attract industrials to null sec imho, all it will do it to make a predjudicial movement to change the eve economy away from the current status quo to enforce the loss of any competition entirely. Null sec already has the opportunity to utilise a lions share of minerals available to them through the existing distribution of asteroids, the idea of removing drone drops was/is to make these valuable again as I understood. Thus the current risk/reward equation is already balanced due to these favourable arrangements of sources. In my view its up to null sec to utilise them, this was the intended knock on effect of the drone poo removal.

Same with makeing T2 production more favourable in null sec. It's just engineering gaming conditions to act as an enforcement to enter null and I'm sorry when the game puts stupid conditions on the geography of production and manufacturing to the extent its "exclusive" that then begins to make me very worried about this so called free market economy where we are supposed to have the players decide to some extent how the economy works and provides. It is one of the more redeeming qualities of the game imho.

As such I think null sec has to find a way of making their areas attractive as opposed to concentrating on tearing down other regions or peoples gameplay so as to enforce their view of how this game should be played out.