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CCP, REMOVE ARTIFICIAL CAP ON NOCXIUM PRICE (Pax Amarria)
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Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#41 - 2012-03-31 19:23:30 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
What kind of book is made from metals?


An Amarrian book...

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Zircon Dasher
#42 - 2012-03-31 19:32:01 UTC
So what you are saying is that CCP was able to sink a bunch of ISK out of the game?

Cool!

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Dickey Fuller
QQ Continuum
#43 - 2012-03-31 19:34:56 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
So what you are saying is that CCP was able to sink a bunch of ISK out of the game?

Cool!


It's a stupid way to get isk out of the game.

You don't have to flood the market with materials that should only be generated through gameplay to lower the isk supply.
Zircon Dasher
#44 - 2012-03-31 19:38:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Zircon Dasher
malcovas Henderson wrote:
6 months ago you were happy to sell noxium for 380-400 isk each. Now you are getting 535 you are moaning ?


This.

Before prices got speculated up this "cap" was fine.
Now you mad?

Or did you just not know about this until now? LolLolLol

Notice btw that I made no judgment call about artifical caps. I was just happy the pressure relief valves still work.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Dickey Fuller
QQ Continuum
#45 - 2012-03-31 19:49:55 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
6 months ago you were happy to sell noxium for 380-400 isk each. Now you are getting 535 you are moaning ?


This.

Before prices got speculated up this "cap" was fine.
Now you mad?

Or did you just not know about this until now? LolLolLol

Notice btw that I made no judgment call about artifical caps. I was just happy the pressure relief valves still work.


It's absolutely ridiculous to think that changing ISK into minerals with 0 gameplay effort is a "pressure relief valve". You don't know what you are talking about
Zircon Dasher
#46 - 2012-03-31 19:51:58 UTC
NO U!

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Adunh Slavy
#47 - 2012-03-31 20:09:43 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
So what you are saying is that CCP was able to sink a bunch of ISK out of the game?

Cool!



Chances are it ends up adding to the ISK supply in the long run. Why go mine when you can buy some minerals at a fixed price? Might as well shoot rats and get more ISK, then you can get even more minerals. Doesn't take many people to supply all the Nocx Eve needs with this. So all those people that would have other wise been mining for nocx, are out shooting rats.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Justa Altlol
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-03-31 20:10:33 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
What kind of book is made from metals?

Amarrians don't like anything that isn't shiny.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-03-31 20:13:49 UTC
Very interesting, I never knew that. But yeah, this could definitely use a fix. Hopefully they read it and just a short change to remove the reprocessing on the pax. Probably will analyze other forms of easy valuable minerals.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#50 - 2012-03-31 20:49:11 UTC
Dickey Fuller wrote:

It's absolutely ridiculous to think that changing ISK into minerals with 0 gameplay effort is a "pressure relief valve". You don't know what you are talking about




I do not think you know what you are talking about.


1 book = 6 noxcium. 10 books = 60. 100 books = 600. 1000 books = 6000. 10,000 books = 60,000. 10,000 books = 2 mill profit. approx after cost of book. how long do you think it takes to get 10k books?
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#51 - 2012-03-31 20:50:35 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
Dickey Fuller wrote:

It's absolutely ridiculous to think that changing ISK into minerals with 0 gameplay effort is a "pressure relief valve". You don't know what you are talking about




I do not think you know what you are talking about.


1 book = 6 noxcium. 10 books = 60. 100 books = 600. 1000 books = 6000. 10,000 books = 60,000. 10,000 books = 2 mill profit. approx after cost of book. how long do you think it takes to get 10k books?



You can use few million book buy orders.

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Severian Carnifex
#52 - 2012-03-31 20:51:15 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
Dickey Fuller wrote:

It's absolutely ridiculous to think that changing ISK into minerals with 0 gameplay effort is a "pressure relief valve". You don't know what you are talking about




I do not think you know what you are talking about.


1 book = 6 noxcium. 10 books = 60. 100 books = 600. 1000 books = 6000. 10,000 books = 60,000. 10,000 books = 2 mill profit. approx after cost of book. how long do you think it takes to get 10k books?


How long it takes for you to click buy.
And then reprocess.
And then sell.
And you can buy what ever amount you want.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#53 - 2012-03-31 20:52:35 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
how long do you think it takes to get 10k books?


30 to 40 seconds.

What did I win?

Mr Epeen Cool
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#54 - 2012-03-31 20:53:03 UTC
Severian Carnifex wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
Dickey Fuller wrote:

It's absolutely ridiculous to think that changing ISK into minerals with 0 gameplay effort is a "pressure relief valve". You don't know what you are talking about




I do not think you know what you are talking about.


1 book = 6 noxcium. 10 books = 60. 100 books = 600. 1000 books = 6000. 10,000 books = 60,000. 10,000 books = 2 mill profit. approx after cost of book. how long do you think it takes to get 10k books?


How long it takes for you to click buy.
And then reprocess.
And then sell.
And you can buy what ever amount you want.



And you got to collect them still.
Dickey Fuller
QQ Continuum
#55 - 2012-03-31 20:59:54 UTC
You can set up a buy order at the NPC price

FIX THIS CRAPPY OVERSIGHT FFS CCPPPPP
Zircon Dasher
#56 - 2012-03-31 21:09:08 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Zircon Dasher wrote:
So what you are saying is that CCP was able to sink a bunch of ISK out of the game?

Cool!



Chances are it ends up adding to the ISK supply in the long run. Why go mine when you can buy some minerals at a fixed price? Might as well shoot rats and get more ISK, then you can get even more minerals. Doesn't take many people to supply all the Nocx Eve needs with this. So all those people that would have other wise been mining for nocx, are out shooting rats.


Tell that to all the people who mined veldspar when NPC shuttles were around.

There are a host of reasons why someone may mine over shooting rats.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#57 - 2012-03-31 21:09:40 UTC
Hausman Heckman wrote:
PAX AMARRIA MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE MARKET.


QFE
Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
#58 - 2012-03-31 22:59:36 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
6 months ago you were happy to sell noxium for 380-400 isk each. Now you are getting 535 you are moaning ?


This.

Before prices got speculated up this "cap" was fine.
Now you mad?

Or did you just not know about this until now? LolLolLol

Notice btw that I made no judgment call about artifical caps. I was just happy the pressure relief valves still work.


The market price goes wherever production and consumption force it, and it shouldn't work any other way. We're moaning because regardless of drone region nerfs and bot bannings, nocx prices can't go up any further on account of an unlimited source of nocx. That flies directly in the face of CCP's stated goal to make mining worthwhile. It also makes for a terrible market to trade in-- restrictions on the market are restrictions in gameplay.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2012-03-31 23:06:33 UTC
Always figured there was something special about that book. Couldn't quite put my finger on it. Now I'm glad I didn't.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Zowie Powers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2012-03-31 23:07:24 UTC
Rest assured, when CCP decide to do this, they will let the CSM know and the CSM will not tell anybody to buy up nocxium, no sir, that would never happen.

ATX: The best of the rest.