EVE General Discussion

Bump for justice.

It's simple. Only the rich can declare war on each other. To simplify it further, imagine the contorted logic involved in dreaming up this one. CCP's corporate success has taught them The Golden Rule. He what's got the gold makes the rules.

I will quote myself about solution for one part of that problem:

"I still think this would be the best solution ISK part of the problem:



So elite PVP corps with rich killboard will attack other PVP corps with good killboards for little money. (you have balls you pay less)
And if elite PVP corp with rich killboard attacks mining/indy corp without any killboard (empty/poor killboard) it must pay much of ISK. (you are a wuss who attacks people who cant defend themself - you will really pay for it)

So you are paying for less risk.
Find the opponent of your own size and have fun, if you like fighting, and don't grief children who cant defend themself.
I think that's only fair."

Fixed that for you
I support this feature and I do war dec, why should it cost you just 50 mill to dec a 1000 man alliance? I am sorry that eve is becoming to "hardcore" for you. If you actually did target freighters then you would have plenty of isk to fund the war..so nice try.

If I am right you can technically war dec a large alliance for zero isk.

If the large alliance has declared war on somebody then you can just fight against them for free by helping out the corp who has been decc'ed.

If this is true, then it's not actually an overhaul of the wardec system after all, it is a nerf to wardecs in general. So why even have them?

Ill try to go step by step:

First:
Make killboard of corps as a combined killboard of their members so that players kill record goes with him when he change the corp.

Second:
Make difference between killboards of attacker and defender as a base for calculating war fee.
Something like this:
- Add up isk worth of all destroyed things by all members of the corp
- Add up isk worth of all losses of all members of the corp
- Subtract this two values
- Divide value that you got after last step with number of corp members.

Third:
- Do above thing (from second step) for attacker and defender corp
- Subtract values of attacker and defender corp
- That value you have now use for calculating the price for war dec (multiply it with some number of isk and you get war dec fee)


This way you have system that will make cheap for PVPers to war dec PVPers regardless of number of players in corps.
And will make attacking indy/noob corp by the PVP corp expensive

If you have balls to attack someone who can fight back you will pay little, and if you are a wuss and attack someone who cant defend itself you will pay much.

I hope you understand better now.

p.s.
This was only an example so there can be changes.

I think that if you calculating with ISK destroyed and calculate middle worth of it for entire corp you wont have that problem because it would be expensive way to do it. (you must destroy many many many of your own isk)

For this to work then you would have to have an official CCP Kill Board which is probably the biggest problem with this idea and any other that involves kill boards.

As for values of items destroyed, how would you decide what their values are?

Mineral values for ships and modules perhaps, what about things like BPO's, BPC's, PI, Implants which values are purely based on what people want to pay for them and such very subjective.

Point 1- If you attack freighters then you should have isk to continue a war.
Point 2- Real Pvp'ers will pay whatever is needed to pvp.
Point 3- I support the war dec changes.