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PVP in eve is non Existent
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Izuru Hishido
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2011-09-26 01:56:16 UTC
Meso Tight wrote:
It's fleet commander vs. fleet commander. No longer can 5-10 people think outside the box and fight outnumbered. Yogie bear & friends rule. It's geared toward the useless babies that follow the milk leaking tit into a battle of #'s. Fuckin grow up CPP, you FAIL. Fix PVP or forever exist as a statistic among the FAILING MMOG group of 2011

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Abominare
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#22 - 2011-09-26 05:43:05 UTC
Firebolt145 wrote:
You're right. No one in EVE can fight bigger numbers. Trolololo.



Damn you I wanted to laugh at him!
Fon Win
Win-Star Corp
#23 - 2011-09-26 06:49:58 UTC
Meso Tight wrote:
I choose not to fight against superior numbers, or use any of the opportunities made available in game to get involved in small fleet/solo pvp
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#24 - 2011-09-26 09:15:47 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
When two opposing sides are of equal strength, a battle would be too costly, or not yield significant advantages for either. Sometimes, both. The military history of the world, in its entirety, consists of battles fought between the advantaged and the disadvantaged, and the occasional (and surprising) triumph by the latter.

When you said that "PVP in eve is non Existent," did you mean arena PvP? Because if so, I regret to inform you that it never existed in the first place.


Quite. I was wandering through a major Low-Sec route yesterday when a capsule sped by in the opposite direction.

Now, I am quite sure that pilot wasn't just 'streaking' across space just for the fun of it so he must have come out of some PvP incident somewhere.

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2011-09-26 10:48:11 UTC
this is quite funny how people:
1) cry "get out CCP, this is OUR GAME! This is our f...ng sandbox and we make rules!"
2) cry "where are you CCP, why you don't make artificial rules against XXX, YYY or ZZZ?????"
at the same time Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2011-09-26 16:44:18 UTC
I just wasted 20 sec. of my life reading the OP.............

If there are so many noob blobbers out there......... why don't you just own them with your superior tactics?...... Oh because you are one. Trololol.

There are plenty of pvp groups that are excellent at thinking outside the "blob" box and take on numbers greater than their own.
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Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-09-26 16:50:38 UTC
tofucake prime wrote:
You're correct! Nobody can attack bigger fleets and win.


Way to put him in his place. lol.
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#28 - 2011-09-26 17:36:47 UTC
Yes confirming, my FC is the only reason I **** faceOops

nom nom
Cable Udan
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#29 - 2011-09-26 17:53:29 UTC
Meso Tight wrote:
PVP in eve is non Existent


You're doing it wrong.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#30 - 2011-09-26 18:44:27 UTC
Disastro wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
When two opposing sides are of equal strength, a battle would be too costly, or not yield significant advantages for either. Sometimes, both. The military history of the world, in its entirety, consists of battles fought between the advantaged and the disadvantaged, and the occasional (and surprising) triumph by the latter.

When you said that "PVP in eve is non Existent," did you mean arena PvP? Because if so, I regret to inform you that it never existed in the first place.


^^^
This. Exactly. I get sick and tired of idiots coming on the forums and complaining about getting blobbed. Do you really think that anyone is going to choose to fight at a disadvantage if they do not have to do so?

The way PVP happens in EVE Online is not really that different than how militaries all over the world choose to engage enemies in real life....



Thats about as far as I got and had to stop.

Consider World war 2. Did theRussian, English, Americans, Chinese and other allies pile all their military soldiers and material into one large blob and then go as one huge force fighting around the world until the met the big blob that had all the german italian and Japanese soldiers and material?

No in the real wars armies have to be spread out. In real wars there are many battles being fought in the same time periods in different places. In real wars strategic decisions have to be made about who and what to send where. Eve its always the same answer. Get in the blob.

IMO eve should have systems where people are constantly fighting smaller scale battles thoughout the relevant regions. Blobs are fine for null sec. Blob warfare makes the headlines for eve and brings in new players. But low sec and faction war in particular should have mechanics for smaller scale pvp battles.

And no, I'm not talking about arenas.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Trush
Liberation By Annihilation
#31 - 2011-09-27 10:28:13 UTC
Put a bunch of pixel vs pilxel's in a thread about warfare and suddenly everyone is a 4-star General and history buff.

It's my understanding that Pvpers tend to be poor, so losses are indeed losses. Make Industry and Station Trading more glamorous, maybe add guns to the market browser so you snipe your competitors.
Zey Nadar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2011-09-27 14:08:19 UTC
Firebolt145 wrote:
You're right. No one in EVE can fight bigger numbers. Trolololo.


Its not really a question of ability, but willingness.
Zeerover
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2011-09-27 15:15:58 UTC
Conor Todaki wrote:
I went to low-sec today.

Guess how many people I saw.

1 warp stabbed rifter.

Oh and a thanatos. Doing whatever outside a station in docking range.


Then you're doing it wrong... I'm sure I can go to the most quiet null-sec system and only find 1 stabbed rifter and a thanatos as well.

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Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#34 - 2011-09-27 15:17:51 UTC
Nope only the Russians did that.

Cearain wrote:

Consider World war 2. Did theRussian, English, Americans, Chinese and other allies pile all their military soldiers and material into one large blob and then go as one huge force fighting around the world until the met the big blob that had all the german italian and Japanese soldiers and material?

nom nom
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-09-27 15:54:24 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Nope only the Russians did that.

Cearain wrote:

Consider World war 2. Did theRussian, English, Americans, Chinese and other allies pile all their military soldiers and material into one large blob and then go as one huge force fighting around the world until the met the big blob that had all the german italian and Japanese soldiers and material?


why have you left your elementary school so early?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#36 - 2011-09-27 17:20:05 UTC

Regardless of history the EVE game mechanics almost always tend to lead rational people to blob up. CCP should figure out some mechanics where fighting forces need to be deployed trhoughout a region or several regions at the same time. It would offer those who don't care for blob warfare something to do pvp wise.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#37 - 2011-09-28 03:44:06 UTC
Meso Tight wrote:
It's fleet commander vs. fleet commander. No longer can 5-10 people think outside the box and fight outnumbered. Yogie bear & friends rule. It's geared toward the useless babies that follow the milk leaking tit into a battle of #'s. Fuckin grow up CPP, you FAIL. Fix PVP or forever exist as a statistic among the FAILING MMOG group of 2011



Most of the Alliances such as Test, Goons, NC.Dot, DRF, Atlas, Nulli, Brick all run small gangs, you are simply out of touch or in the wrong Corp or alliance, do some research before making stupid statements.

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Taurean Eltanin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2011-09-28 09:20:48 UTC
I have a confession to make:

My blog (see my signature), which provides details of dozens of solo and small gang fights backed up by API verified killmails is a hoax. Regardless of what you might think, it's all fake.

It must be, after all, because as the OP has correctly pointed out, this kind of pvp does not exist in Eve. It's imaginary, just like elves, and faries, and Eskimos.

If you like reading about low sec piracy or wormhole pvp, you might enjoy my blog.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#39 - 2011-09-28 14:02:55 UTC
Taurean Eltanin wrote:
I have a confession to make:

My blog (see my signature), which provides details of dozens of solo and small gang fights backed up by API verified killmails is a hoax. Regardless of what you might think, it's all fake.

It must be, after all, because as the OP has correctly pointed out, this kind of pvp does not exist in Eve. It's imaginary, just like elves, and faries, and Eskimos.



I would agree they exist. But they take a really long time to find. Of course, "really long time" is a relative term.

Some people might think its great that they find a decent fight after 3 hours of forming/warping. For me, thats a bit too much boredom for the short thrill. I think ccp should make mechanics where I can get decent solo and small scale pvp fights at the rate of about 4-6 per hour.

Since your plugging your sig, I'll say the proposal in my sig would do it.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Boston Six
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2011-09-28 17:53:48 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Taurean Eltanin wrote:
I have a confession to make:

My blog (see my signature), which provides details of dozens of solo and small gang fights backed up by API verified killmails is a hoax. Regardless of what you might think, it's all fake.

It must be, after all, because as the OP has correctly pointed out, this kind of pvp does not exist in Eve. It's imaginary, just like elves, and faries, and Eskimos.



I would agree they exist. But they take a really long time to find. Of course, "really long time" is a relative term.

Some people might think its great that they find a decent fight after 3 hours of forming/warping. For me, thats a bit too much boredom for the short thrill. I think ccp should make mechanics where I can get decent solo and small scale pvp fights at the rate of about 4-6 per hour.

Since your plugging your sig, I'll say the proposal in my sig would do it.



Yeah. And make it so I can kill 4-5 MR's an hour too. CCP you need to make it so all I have to do is log in and then spam my skills button over and over to get leet kills and pvps. Maybe hire people to log in when I do and float around in ships so I can target lock POW them, it would be even better if I didn't have to leave a station. Please thanks.