EVE General Discussion

A few recent changes to game play mechanics have been a bit detrimental to the innovation-rewarding nature of the game. However, they have also been fair. The "boomerang method" might have been clever, but it created a sort of imbalance that caused more damage to the game's integrity than the damage caused by making the game slightly less open-ended. Fine, we get that.

What we don't get is why some legitimate game play mechanics are limited in the first place. Two such mechanics are bombs launched from bomb launchers, and interdiction bubbles, the use of which is impossible in empire space. Nothing from a game play or RP perspective dictates that this should not be a possibility; the only limiting factors are the rules set by CCP.

There must be consequences for every action, and therefore I see no reason why the modules themselves should be treated any differently than combat boosters; their presence can and should be illegal in high-sec and result in attack by faction police and customs agent ships. Additional safety measures, such as the gate/station smartbomb "at 0" protections, can apply to their usage. However, the potential to use them in high-sec and low-sec should be unrestricted, in the same way that the potential capability of a -10 sec-rated pilot to undock from a high-sec station and get kills is unrestricted.

Restricting these game play elements has always been a mistake on CCP's part, but at no point in time did I feel stronger about the issue than I do now. Allowing one weapon, but not another, does not make sense. This isn't a case of capital ships in high-sec, which according to lore are essentially too big to use jump gates. Not allowing bombs or interdiction bubbles in empire space, with proper consequences, makes about as much sense as outlawing the use of 1400mm artillery or ECM bursts and smartbombs. Game balancing should be all about fairness, and not convenience. Allowing bombs and bubbles to be used in empire space would be fair. Otherwise, CCP should look into restricting the use of a plethora of other modules and game play mechanics that are not in line with the sensibilities of some of EVE's players.

The bombs I never got, but why would Concorde let you place up a suspect creating bubble?

Oooh, and I want to be able to bring my main's caps into high to harass small tower holders!!! Can I? Please? Huh, please?

This is fine, as long as -10.0 sec players are ganked and podded by Concord upon entering highsec. Fair enough?

Makes a fair point if we want to be ruthless and less intervention after a certain SP amount NPC should shoot your pod.... I mean if you are an enemy of the state or a mass murdering criminal/pirate why let you live?

Bubbles on a high sec gate would be interesting because you'd aggress everyone and their uncle...

It will be fair if you can provide an argument that supports such a change from a game play perspective. Your proposal has nothing to do with the one I made, and therefore can't be a tradeoff for it.

Only good things can come of this.

And by good things i mean this is a horrible idea.

If high is cyno-jam by the npc's then isn't it pretty obvious that its bubble jammed as well?

Speaking of unnecessarily unrestricted aspects of high-sec, how about letting the "citizens" of a particular system decide how to implement security instead of relying on CCP's overly-simplistic retro-active aggression mechanics?

The traders, industrialists, miners, etc., should be able to lobby (aka pay isk for) the faction/corporation owning the system/station to add more sentry guns, faction police, and to control/influence when and at whom those gun fire at. Meaning, if the Jita 4-4 community can vote via the "Jita 4-4 Homeowner's Association" to buy a hundred extra sentry guns and to implement a "one strike and you're out" policy where the guns to preemptively fire at anyone (capsules included) who has ever broken the rules (i.e. initiated a gank on the station grid within the past year or who has a less than 4.99 security status,) then I think most people would be open to removing the artificial limits imposed on high-sec.

If you want more freedom of high-sec combat, then the local citizens should be given more freedom to enforce the law.


Or, let's just turn everything into 0.0, get rid of the NPC factions, and give corps and alliances the in-game tools to run governments (i.e. taxes, voting, publishing policy, paying for faction police, etc..)

But Un-ganged Neutrals aren't affected and are free to scan.