EVE General Discussion

Eh, whats the point of arguing.

CCP GMs want to coddle carebears - even if they have to rewrite their own rules to do it.

I developed the 'Tornado Boomerang' technique shortly after the 'nado was released and I knew it was good - but challenging to do properly and NOT broken. The technique, done right, effectively reversed the effects of the simultaneous 'insurance nerf' that I was seeking to overcome. Used it to my benefit for 3 solid months, killing 635 Exhumers and 1 Orca, solo. Only shared the technique with a few in the ganking community. But I wanted it to see wider use.....

(Disclaimer: Its quite possible that others figured it out independently, but I saw no evidence of that anywhere.)

So I eventually wrote my (immediately locked) primer as a 'test case'. After all, it was merely min-maxing the Tornado into effectiveness by maximizing gank and agility - at the expense of everything else. Wanted to see how CCP would respond to 'innovation' in ganking. They like innovation right? WRONG.

If you discover a good, efficient ganking tactic - you keep it to yourself and tell nobody. Even if it violates no rules, CCP will rewrite the rules based on the 'end result' - not the 'means'. IE: If innovation results in carebears crying, nerfs and rule changes will be incoming. Got it loud and clear, CCP. Thats the last trick I'll openly share with the GMs.

So, where does that leave me?

Tactical Situation:

You are still ALLOWED to warp away - but you are not allowed to shoot more targets after warping.
No way around it - CCP's arbitrary rule change has severely limited the Tornado's ganking utility, especially for efficiently killing widely spaced mining bots in the belts. Really, not much reason to use it over, say, a Catalyst or a Talos now.

But you still have two advantages:

-You are allowed to get your Tornado off-grid to die in a 'safe place'. The Tornado 'drive-by' shooting.
This is important if you are dealing with 'white knights' - looking to pod you and/or loot your wreck.

-Using the 'fitting service' on your Orca while GCC is STILL LEGAL.
In my experience, this will allow you plenty of time to 'prep your guns' for unfitting.
You can generally save 90-95% of all the mods on a Tornado this way, and it drives the cost of ganking down to the hull price.
Second post will contain a detailed primer.

Strategic Goal:

1. Carebears whined and CCP listened. Why? Because they outnumber us. This needs to be rectified.
2. Ganking miners with Tornados is no a longer profitable endeavor, but can only be done at a loss.
3. Ganking at a loss, I can not match the limitless resources of large botting/RMT operations, so why even try?

Thus: I plan to do my utmost to 'encourage' young mining carebears to quit the game via selective, predatory ganking.
Effective immediately, all operations, reports, and petitions against mining botters will cease. No more 'padding' the KB with my new 'artificial friends'. In my view, mining bots are actually beneficial: They flood the market with minerals/ice and significantly depress 'real miner' earnings.

Resources will now be focused exclusively on hunting 'real' miners. I've found that younger miners are more likely to become discouraged after multiple Exhumer losses and will simply cancel their subscription. This will help achieve the goal of reducing carebear influence over EVE - simply by reducing their numbers.

Do you also reclamate your own tears?

Your not as clever as you think OP, many people realized that this was possible with smaller ships before T3 BCs. However everyone with half a brain also realized that this was avoiding CONCORD and liable to get you banned, hence why no one did it. So if your previous victims decide to petition their loss, you will probably get a ban. Enjoy.

Props for figuring out the technique and making full use of it, but you're an idiot for posting it on the forums and then whining when it gets banned. It begs the question-- What exactly did you expect? CCP would let every freighter in the game die to solo gankers?

People may not like suicide-ganking or the OP's extreme devotion to it, but let's be honest here, the heart of the problem is how artificial and clunky the CONCORD aggression mechanics are.

Actions and attitudes like this may encourage CCP to change high-sec "law enforcement" from being a strictly NPC affair, to allowing it to be controlled or influenced by players. Allow the players to improve the security in high sec if they pay for it, such as adding more sentry guns or tweaking sentry guns/faction police to preemptively attack known outlaws. If you're a "known" criminal (i.e. committed an act of aggression in the last X weeks) then the guns/police for that particular faction/corp should just shoot you on sight.

Conversely, criminals should be able to destroy sentries/police ships, or avoid police patrols in asteroid belts. Such actions would be harder to do in "safe" citizen upgraded neighborhoods versus blighted/neglected areas of high-sec.


Alternately, known criminals should be open to being hunted by players who are members of the Faction Police (think Faction Warfare-ish.)